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Post by Solarius » 26 Jan 2014 06:27

That's a bit of a complex one....

On a micro level, courts and such in Kimonle typically operate in the tradition of French Civil law. In remote rural areas, disputes are typically arbitrated by a panel of elders, who impartially weigh the facts of the dispute. The latter is sometimes preferred even in less remote areas, as judges are notoriously corrupt.

On a macro level, Kimonle has shown a dangerous willingness to be jingoistic and hawkish. They have had a long-running civil war with Omifko rebels, where the government has committed many atrocities, including using chemical weapons and ethnic cleansing. Several senior members of the military junta have been convicted of war crimes by the ICC, but have not been extradited to The Hague. In foreign policy, the Kimonese government has few allies- it has very hostile relations with Hayaka, its neighbor to the southwest, and the two went to war for in the late 1990s/early 2000s. They have very hostile relations with the US, and have threatened to bomb American bases in Hayaka if they build new ones in Inkapia (Kimonle's eastern neighbor).

What sort of religious rituals do your people practice?
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Post by Shemtov » 27 Jan 2014 00:26

Solarius wrote: What sort of religious rituals do your people practice?
Kalushians go to a temple on the first day of their week and holidays for a "Hymnal meeting"
On holidays, wedding, funerals, and birth-celebrations and when ordered to by a priest, they offer animals sacrifices.
They believe that it is possible for a human to calculate his or her spiritual worth. Their priests have charts, and everyone is expected to sit down once a year with a priest to calculate whether their merits or sins are more. If their sins are more the preist will recommend fasts, prayers and sacrifices to the person.


Pikpämians sacrifice animals and captured humans to their deities (K'uqumancsok Podapukcsok ). They often use a concentrated form of the otherwise recreational hallucinogenic Covos mushrooms to contact those deities. (to use the concentrated form recreationally will result in one getting sacrificed.

What kind of weapons would your conculture's soldiers be most likely to use?
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Post by Ahzoh » 27 Jan 2014 00:41

Shemtov wrote:
Solarius wrote: What sort of religious rituals do your people practice?
Kalushians go to a temple on the first day of their week and holidays for a "Hymnal meeting"
On holidays, wedding, funerals, and birth-celebrations and when ordered to by a priest, they offer animals sacrifices.
They believe that it is possible for a human to calculate his or her spiritual worth. Their priests have charts, and everyone is expected to sit down once a year with a priest to calculate whether their merits or sins are more. If their sins are more the preist will recommend fasts, prayers and sacrifices to the person.


Pikpämians sacrifice animals and captured humans to their deities (K'uqumancsok Podapukcsok ). They often use a concentrated form of the otherwise recreational hallucinogenic Covos mushrooms to contact those deities. (to use the concentrated form recreationally will result in one getting sacrificed.

What kind of weapons would your conculture's soldiers be most likely to use?
the Vrkhazhi people would likely have a scimitar-like weapon called the Ḵavīg, although they are alternatively called Adantum. The long-istance warriors (rangers) would use a modified double crossbow that acts more like a pre-modern day machine gun, using "bolt racks" as ammo. Though those weapons are not nearly as fast as a machine-gun, but fast enough to be something not to be messed with. These weapons are called Ḵvagma. All these weapons are are of course made with a metal known to them and translated into English as "Pitsteel".
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Post by Click » 27 Jan 2014 20:12

What's the next question?

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Post by Ahzoh » 27 Jan 2014 20:47

Click wrote:What's the next question?
Aw crap!

What would your conculture think about other dimensions (universes) from their own? Whatabout the concept of the fourth spatial dimension?
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Post by Click » 28 Jan 2014 11:59

Ahzoh wrote:What would your conculture think about other dimensions (universes) from their own? What about the concept of the fourth spatial dimension?
An Azunan physicist would consider your first question quite interesting, but he probably thinks things like that are impossible to prove. As for the second question, he probably thinks that time is the best bet for the fourth dimension, but he's likely too insecure to tell anything about that.
Replace he with she if you feel like doing that.

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Post by k1234567890y » 28 Jan 2014 13:03

Solarius wrote:
What sort of religious rituals do your people practice?
Long-longs had rites to memorial their ancestors, and may give sacrifices to their ancestors. They use pots that are filled with water to represent the "kotekse"s("kotekse" means the soul of a deceased ancestor) of their ancestors.

Long-longs also parctice other rituals according to their belief.
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What kind of weapons would your conculture's soldiers be most likely to use?
Long-longs use guns, bombs, artilleries and something like them, strangely enough, long-longs didn't invent things like bows, crossbows, javelins or catapults.

Long-longs invented guns for hunting, and guns were later exploited by the outsiders as a kind of weapon.
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Click wrote:What's the next question?
Aw crap!

What would your conculture think about other dimensions (universes) from their own? Whatabout the concept of the fourth spatial dimension?
Long-longs would think that other dimensions/universes exist, especially after human beings appeared in their world; however, they may not have the concept of the fourth spatial dimension outside of an academic context
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Ahzoh wrote:What would your conculture think about other dimensions (universes) from their own? What about the concept of the fourth spatial dimension?
An Azunan physicist would consider your first question quite interesting, but he probably thinks things like that are impossible to prove. As for the second question, he probably thinks that time is the best bet for the fourth dimension, but he's likely too insecure to tell anything about that.
Replace he with she if you feel like doing that.

An average Azunan would stare blankly at you and tell you in a disparaging tone that you read too much newspapers.
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What I've answered are what I think of now, they might be changed, and I may have more ideas in the future.

Next: literacy in your conpeople.
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Post by Serena » 29 Jan 2014 18:08

k1234567890y wrote:Next: literacy in your conpeople.
Keyali people and Hanilians both have a high rate of literacy. Old Gadil used to be written using ideograms and the people who could read it were not the majority (about one every fifteen, 6%).

When Keleia became colony of the Empire, the greek alphabet was introduced and people started using it. The first known written piece of written Keyali literature is the first reconstructed verse of the 'Ode to the Queen', a song dedicated to queen Zanalei I:

Ma saled tah, gadii digdal.
Μἀ σαλἑδ ταω γαδεί διγδαλ.
I love you, mighty queen.

Today almost the 90% of the people have at least enough literacy to read that poem. The concept of 'literacy' in Keleia is defined as the ability to write the names of the last five queens/kings.

Next: Does yout conpeople include two or more races? Does the color of the skin/eyes/hair matter?

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Post by Salmoneus » 30 Jan 2014 00:34

The Là consider themselves to be only one race, but they share their island with aboriginal tribes. The aborigines are paler and stronger than the Là, and often have beards (which Là men can sometimes grow, but only just).

Within the Là, however, there are differences that are racial in origin. In addition to the Là's own ancestors, there has been intermingling with aborigines (particularly in the north, inland, and west), with the people of Antarem (primarily in the south and among the nobility), and with the people of Gureha and other northern regions (particularly in the north and among the gentry).

As a result of these processes, in general darker skin and tall thin bodies are associated with class and wealth, provided they are not so extreme as to indicate a foreigner (though even then they are considered attractive). Paler skin, and either tall bulky bodies or shorter bodies are associated with lower classes. Of course, there is immense variation within classes and regions, person-to-person.

Hair and eye colour are not primarily associated with race: all the contributing stocks primarily have black or dark brown hair. Aboriginals can be associated with lighter hair colour sometimes, as can the people of Gureha, who are also associated with bright red hair occasionally. Red hair does occur frequently among the native Là, but usually only in the form of dark auburn hair. Eye colours among all stocks are typically brown, with some greens particularly among the native Là.


[All nobles and gentry are entirely literate, and expect to practice calligraphy. Commoners are literate if their occupations require it; otherwise, they cannot extensively read or write but will be literate enough to make and use signs relevant to their occupations, and to understand common forms of written commands]

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Post by eldin raigmore » 30 Jan 2014 19:43

Serena wrote:Next: Does yout conpeople include two or more races? Does the color of the skin/eyes/hair matter?
Reptigan society includes two or more species, originating in the planetary systems of two or more different stars.

One of the two most numerous (hence narratively dominant) groups is Adpihi (the ethnicity); humans originally of Terrestrial descent, but now all claiming descent from Adpihi (the planet).

Since some of them have had several generations of ancestors all born and raised on other planets -- most in Adpihi's home system, but some in other systems -- as well as some whose ancestors have been born and raised off of any planet for a few generations, there are physiological differences, some visible on the surface, even more extreme than the differences between one Adpihi native and another.

But most "racial" differences (i.e. inheritable physiological differences "visible on the surface") among Reptigan's humans are between one many-generational-Adpihi-native and another.

But differences in religion are more important than differences in "race", which are barely significant at all. Differences in language (which are dialectical; all Adpihi dialects are dialects of one language, the one called Adpihi (the language)), are also less important than differences in religion.

Adpihi (the people) are under the illusion that they all have the same religion (namely Adpihi (the religion)), so the difference in religion that matters most is, how well one believer/practitioner tolerates the different beliefs/practices of another. Most people are tolerant; their worst war was against a subgroup who were intolerant.

I hope that answers the question?

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Edit: Next: What's the typical experience of immigrants to or adoptees into your conpeople? What's the typical reason such a person would immigrate or convert or be adopted? And what's the typical opinion of a native, toward such a convert or immigrant or adoptee?

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eldin raigmore wrote:Next: What's the typical experience of immigrants to or adoptees into your conpeople? What's the typical reason such a person would immigrate or convert or be adopted? And what's the typical opinion of a native, toward such a convert or immigrant or adoptee?
Though the Feom are very ethnocentric, they welcome those who adopt their culture, seeing it as the way of joining the civilized world. Long-term Feom customarily treat immigrants more or less as equals, as long as they essentially fully assimilate into Feom society and culture; likewise, they look down on those who are attached to their old culture, language, customs, religious practices and so on and do not fully see them as Feom.

Next: What would a person from your conculture think of the progress that (Earth's) humanity has made in space with respect to our technological capacities?
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Post by Serena » 03 Feb 2014 18:16

Yačay256 wrote:Next: What would a person from your conculture think of the progress that (Earth's) humanity has made in space with respect to our technological capacities?
If I were about to tell a Keyalian about our progress in space they would just shrug and tell me that "bugs can fly so why couldn't we?". However, they are not quite interested about the sky since they perfectly know that it is dangerous and pretty much useless. They are a medieval-like society so they don't need energy or materials and the space is definitively something they are not interested in.

Next: How does your conpeople handle sexual orientations?

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Post by Avjunza » 06 Feb 2014 12:45

Serena wrote:Next: How does your conpeople handle sexual orientations?
Onure are pretty open about sex; there are public brothels, where any adult can choose from the masked rooms, where they can engage in anonymous safe sex and orgies, or the private rooms available to couples or one-night-stands who hook up in the brothel atreum. Same-sex relationships aren't uncommon, although actual marriage by Onure standards isn't possible, since there's no possibility of children to inherit.

So long as you avoid anyone with the same moiety tattoos, don't marry someone of the same gender, or have kids out of wedlock, you're good to go; if you break any of those norms, you're risking a lynchmob.


Next: What (if any) justifications does your conculture have for torturing someone?
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Post by k1234567890y » 06 Feb 2014 12:55

Avjunza wrote:
Serena wrote:Next: How does your conpeople handle sexual orientations?
Onure are pretty open about sex; there are public brothels, where any adult can choose from the masked rooms, where they can engage in anonymous safe sex and orgies, or the private rooms available to couples or one-night-stands who hook up in the brothel atreum. Same-sex relationships aren't uncommon, although actual marriage by Onure standards isn't possible, since there's no possibility of children to inherit.

So long as you avoid anyone with the same moiety tattoos, don't marry someone of the same gender, or have kids out of wedlock, you're good to go; if you break any of those norms, you're risking a lynchmob.


Next: What (if any) justifications does your conculture have for torturing someone?
it seems that long-longs almost never justify torturing someone.

Next: how would your conpeople think about competition and success?
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Post by Serena » 10 Feb 2014 14:46

k1234567890y wrote:Next: how would your conpeople think about competition and success?
Keleyans are very competitive both in sexual and warlike competitions. They also quite immoderately enjoy showing off their success.

The poetess and philosopher Ilari was famous because she wrote a philosophical essay ('Purity and Virginity of a Queen') just to persuade Queen Lizelai III not to marry a male Hanilian warrior, and then she slept with her and killed the said warrior with an arrow.

Next: How would your conpeople react to manichaeism, or to other forms of extreme constrast of evil towards good?

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Post by Serena » 25 Feb 2014 14:50

Serena wrote:Next: How would your conpeople react to manichaeism, or to other forms of extreme constrast of evil towards good?
Keyali spiritualism is essentially based on the Vis Mythology, which divides the knowable world into Vis substances and Taint substances, although without adding a moral value to this distinction. Vis matter is not necessarily ‘good' and tainted matter is not necessarily ‘evil’.
If your average Keyalian met with Manichaeism, they would just perceive good and evil as alternative names for Vis and Taint.

Next: Tell a fairy tale / short story that is typical of your conpeople.

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Post by Salmoneus » 25 Feb 2014 17:14

I think you bypassed the interesting parts of manichaeism there.
I'd say the key features of a manichaeist or manichaeist-related religion would be:
- division of the world into good and evil, but with good being more powerful than evil
- identification of goodness with light
- the belief that the world and all things in it were created by evil and that all matter is wholly evil
- the belief that light has become entrapped in matter (eg in the form of souls), and hence that the aim of souls should be not victory over evil but escape or liberation (i.e. death)
- a radical hatred of all material desires, particularly sexual urges
- a division of the believers into a small number of privileged but ascetic Elect and a congegation of damned un-elect who exist to assist the Elect
- a strongly hierarchical clerical organisation

Just discussing good and evil is rather missing out the juicy bits

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Post by Serena » 25 Feb 2014 19:14

Salmoneus wrote:I think you bypassed the interesting parts of manichaeism there.
Yes, but this is the 'how would react' thread and it isn't always supposed to cover the whole topic.
- division of the world into good and evil, but with good being more powerful than evil
No Keyalian would admit that 'good' is more powerful than 'evil'. Tainted matter makes up the soul according to their belief while Vis matter makes Physical bodies and you should agree that everyone sees souls are way more powerful than bodies.
- identification of goodness with light
No problem, light is Pure Vis in liquid form to them.
- the belief that the world and all things in it were created by evil and that all matter is wholly evil
According to everyone in Keleia, this is just stupid. Everyone knows that bodies are made with Vis in its solid form. Not a single droplet of taint lies in physical objects.
- the belief that light has become entrapped in matter (eg in the form of souls), and hence that the aim of souls should be not victory over evil but escape or liberation (i.e. death)
Rather curious to them, but no real problem shows up.
- a radical hatred of all material desires, particularly sexual urges
This is likely to make Keyalians angry. I mean, how can you despise such a holy thing as sex?
- a strongly hierarchical clerical organisation
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Post by Yačay256 » 27 Feb 2014 20:40

Serena wrote:Next: How would your conpeople react to manichaeism, or to other forms of extreme constrast of evil towards good?
Well, the Feom would look at Manichaeism itself as somewhat similar to the religion of Ẑandko, found across the Eastern Ocean, as it is also bitheistic and highly dualistic; however, like Ẑandko, it would be strictly regulated (on a par with Christianity in the contemporary real world's People's Republic of China), especially those that forbid interaction with with or demand that one not participate in Feom's state religion, a set of nontheistic and humanistic dogmas, traditions, customs, moral principles and philosophical ideas known as Sejazu.

And, while they would note the similarities between Manichaeism and Ẑandko, they would look down on both of them as overly simplistic and unnecessarily superstitious, given the great dominance of nontheistic religions, philosophies and ideologies in Feom and its cultural area. Nevertheless, as long as a Manichaen would participate in the Sejazu rituals and practice or adopt Sejazu morality, they would be essentially fine in Feom.
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What's the next question?

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