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Re: Lesson/Guide Requests

Post by Shemtov » 29 Sep 2016 04:23

I'm doing a lot of reading about Breton- I'm even studying how to speak the language a bit. Though I probably won't be able to give lessons anytime soon, is anybody interested in an AMA about the language?
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Re: Lesson/Guide Requests

Post by qwed117 » 29 Sep 2016 23:24

Shemtov wrote:I'm doing a lot of reading about Breton- I'm even studying how to speak the language a bit. Though I probably won't be able to give lessons anytime soon, is anybody interested in an AMA about the language?
No offense, but I think I'd rather learn it from someone else, who is either fluent or native in Breton. Thanks for volunteering however.
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Re: Lesson/Guide Requests

Post by Shemtov » 01 Oct 2016 00:19

qwed117 wrote:
Shemtov wrote:I'm doing a lot of reading about Breton- I'm even studying how to speak the language a bit. Though I probably won't be able to give lessons anytime soon, is anybody interested in an AMA about the language?
No offense, but I think I'd rather learn it from someone else, who is either fluent or native in Breton. Thanks for volunteering however.
I said I wasn't talking about lessons, but rather a grammatical sketch based on the various resources I have about the language.
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Re: Lesson/Guide Requests

Post by Isfendil » 05 Nov 2016 17:32

Are there any sketches of Indo-Aryan or Malay languages in the teaching corner?

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Re: Lesson/Guide Requests

Post by Creyeditor » 05 Nov 2016 23:58

Not yet, but I could make some Papuan Malay or Standard Indonesian lessons, if there are enough people, who'd like to listen.
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Re: Lesson/Guide Requests

Post by Isfendil » 06 Nov 2016 22:19

Creyeditor wrote:Not yet, but I could make some Papuan Malay or Standard Indonesian lessons, if there are enough people, who'd like to listen.
Wouldn't want to trouble someone, just wanted to know if it was already there.

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Re: Lesson/Guide Requests

Post by Squall » 06 Dec 2016 01:00

Unfortunately, external resources for Malay and Tagalog are poor.
Maybe it is better to write some sentences in English and ask for translations with glosses.
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Re: Lesson/Guide Requests

Post by Isfendil » 06 Dec 2016 03:57

What about on the Indo-Aryan end of things?

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Post by OTʜᴇB » 06 Dec 2016 16:05

I'd like to see some lesson threads about different ways a lexicon can develop and different ways words are constructed in different natlangs and conlangs. If this already exists then may I have a link?
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Post by Linguifex » 09 Mar 2017 06:11

OTʜᴇB wrote:I'd like to see some lesson threads about different ways a lexicon can develop and different ways words are constructed in different natlangs and conlangs. If this already exists then may I have a link?
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Post by Creyeditor » 09 Mar 2017 13:43

and it is very good [:)]
Also there are some natlang databases. There is clics, which is more synchronic. And also I am pretty sure there is one for diachronic relations, but I forgot which one it is. Maybe you can find it in the resources thread?
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Re: Lesson/Guide Requests

Post by Linguifex » 11 Mar 2017 00:04

Creyeditor wrote:And also I am pretty sure there is one for diachronic relations, but I forgot which one it is.
You might be thinking of The World Lexicon of Grammaticalization, which is also very good.
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Re: Lesson/Guide Requests

Post by qwed117 » 06 Sep 2017 01:27

I would be willing to provide an in-depth guide to the Romance languages and how to make a good romlang. Is anyone interested?
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Re: Lesson/Guide Requests

Post by Ælfwine » 06 Sep 2017 02:14

As I said on the IRC, I'd love to see a Romance guide like Aszev's old one on Avaneca.com

I am hoping to get my own resources on the Romance languages soon, so I hopefully can help some.
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Re: Lesson/Guide Requests

Post by shimobaatar » 06 Sep 2017 02:20

qwed117 wrote:I would be willing to provide an in-depth guide to the Romance languages and how to make a good romlang. Is anyone interested?
I'd certainly follow along.

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Post by Egerius » 06 Sep 2017 16:05

qwed117 wrote:I would be willing to provide an in-depth guide to the Romance languages and how to make a good romlang. Is anyone interested?
If you want, I can contribute some material (books on natlang development or some examples in Buonavallese).
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Re: Lesson/Guide Requests

Post by qwed117 » 09 Sep 2017 04:05

Does anyone want a specific topic to be discussed on the Romance guide? I'm making a Table of Contents/Syllabus right now, and would like your suggestions

Also, if it wasn't clear, I'm looking for aid from people who natively speak any Romance language, especially those who speak nonstandard dialects/languages of Romanian, Italian, French and Spanish. I look forward to working together to complete the guide.
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Post by Egerius » 09 Sep 2017 19:15

How about beginning from the start, defining the term “romlang”?
Then you'd go into the topics of geographical extent and (maybe) realism.
After that, you could start with the phonology (vowels first, consonant next).
Then you'd deal with the morphology, pointing to the changes from Latin to Romance (nouns, adjectives, verbs – in that order).

How's that?
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Re: Lesson/Guide Requests

Post by Salmoneus » 10 Sep 2017 22:46

Egerius wrote:How about beginning from the start, defining the term “romlang”?
Then you'd go into the topics of geographical extent and (maybe) realism.
After that, you could start with the phonology (vowels first, consonant next).
Then you'd deal with the morphology, pointing to the changes from Latin to Romance (nouns, adjectives, verbs – in that order).

How's that?
Perhaps the best place would be for qwed to establish his credentials in the minds of his readers by directing them to his own well-developed romlangs. Then he could use those romlangs as illustrations for the other sections.

Then I guess a quick introduction to classical and vulgar Latin, and the differences between them (with links to more in-depth grammars). Then a section on geography/history, examining a) each place the Romans dwelt, and b) places they didn't actually dwell in, or didn't dwell in for long, and the prospects for Roman occupation there in an alternate history. For each place they actually dwelt, qwed could give a brief introduction to what is known of the vulgar latin of that area - it would be great if he could pull together all the sources on north african romance, for instance.

It may also be a good idea to look at different design ideologies, with illustrations from real conlangs. What is a bogolang romlang, and what isn't?

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Re: Lesson/Guide Requests

Post by Ælfwine » 13 Sep 2017 06:32

Qwed was asking for a list of areas where a person who was curious about developing a romlang could choose from, so I give my various ideas to be expanded upon:

Various African Romance languages (perhaps a modern Romance Carthaginian?)
Maybe the Roman Empire colonized the Azores?
British Latin (c.f. Brithenig, could also become a mix of Latin and Old Norse?)
Dacian Romance, perhaps related to Romanian but spoken in Eastern Hungary.
Dutch Latin, or Romance spoken in what would be southern Netherlands.
Maltese Romance (If Vulgar Latin survived there instead of being replaced by Arabic)
Moselle Romance
Pannonian Romance

There are many other areas where an isolated Romance language could have survived, for example in the Alps or Pyrenees.
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