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Re: Forum News discussion/feedback thread

Post by Khemehekis » 30 Oct 2016 04:30

GrandPiano wrote:Small typo I noticed: The hover text for the Wikipedia icon ( :wikip: ) says "Wikpedia" rather than "Wikipedia".
Similarly, the old Wiktionary logo showed an entry with the pronunciation /ˈwɪkʃənɹi/ instead of /ˈwɪkʃənæɹi/. What was up with that?
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Re: Forum News discussion/feedback thread

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Khemehekis wrote:Similarly, the old Wiktionary logo showed an entry with the pronunciation /ˈwɪkʃənɹi/ instead of /ˈwɪkʃənæɹi/. What was up with that?
That's a typical British pronunciation of the word. The first vowel in -ary and -ory is usually deleted or reduced in British English.

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Re: Forum News discussion/feedback thread

Post by Khemehekis » 30 Oct 2016 05:28

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Khemehekis wrote:Similarly, the old Wiktionary logo showed an entry with the pronunciation /ˈwɪkʃənɹi/ instead of /ˈwɪkʃənæɹi/. What was up with that?
That's a typical British pronunciation of the word. The first vowel in -ary and -ory is usually deleted or reduced in British English.
Like in "secretary"? I didn't know the British did that with other -ary and -ory words, though.
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Re: Forum News discussion/feedback thread

Post by elemtilas » 30 Oct 2016 05:35

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Aszev wrote:sangi39 and Dormouse559 have been appointed moderators.
Thank you, Aszev, and congratulations to the two new mods!
And thank you Elemtilas [:)] I don't know about Dormouse559, but I was a bit surprised by the offer, but I'm quite looking forward to it [:)]
So tell us all about your elevation ceremony! I'm sure there were loads of secret handshakes and recitations from the Ancient and Enlightened Ritual before the official regalia and wands of power were bestowed.

Best of luck, and hopefully you two can help sort out the backlog of things needing attention!

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Re: Forum News discussion/feedback thread

Post by Dormouse559 » 30 Oct 2016 05:52

Khemehekis wrote:Like in "secretary"? I didn't know the British did that with other -ary and -ory words, though.
Yes, most if not all of them. Some of the more striking examples for me are "laboratory", "respiratory" and "library" /ləˈbɒɹətɹiː ɹɪˈspɪrətɹiː ˈlaɪb(ɹ)(ə)ɹiː/

The chance to make this topic into yet another English-pronunciation thread distracted me.
sangi39 wrote:And thank you Elemtilas [:)] I don't know about Dormouse559, but I was a bit surprised by the offer, but I'm quite looking forward to it [:)]
I was a little surprised, too, but I'm sure it'll be a good experience. [:D]
elemtilas wrote:So tell us all about your elevation ceremony! I'm sure there were loads of secret handshakes and recitations from the Ancient and Enlightened Ritual before the official regalia and wands of power were bestowed.
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Re: Forum News discussion/feedback thread

Post by qwed117 » 30 Oct 2016 06:33

Thats unusual to begin with. Unless (x-sampa) dIkS@nr\I is more common than I thought it was.
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Re: Forum News discussion/feedback thread

Post by Lao Kou » 30 Oct 2016 07:23

Dormouse559 wrote:Some of the more striking examples for me are "laboratory", "respiratory" and "library" /ləˈbɒɹətɹiː ɹɪˈspɪrətɹiː ˈlaɪb(ɹ)(ə)ɹiː/

The chance to make this topic into yet another English-pronunciation thread distracted me.
One should never forego a YAEPT opportunity. [B)] À propos of nothing other than this YAEPT reminded me of it... I did a double-take recently, as I always do, hearing a Brit on TV say [ɪnˈkwa͜ɪəri] for <inquiry>. I would anticipate Britons to say [ˈɪnkwɪri]/[ˈɪnkwəri] and Americans to say [ɪnˈkwa͜ɪəri], but it appears to be just the opposite (though I imagine there's some free variation in there, even within idiolects). Oh well. My own little personal cross to bear. [>_<]
cowls.
"Cowl" is such a cool word. [:D] And congrats to you and sangi39. Do we need cake?
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Post by Khemehekis » 30 Oct 2016 07:40

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cowls.
"Cowl" is such a cool word.
Do you have a Géarthnuns word for "cowl"? (In Kankonian, it's hulor.)
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Post by Lao Kou » 30 Oct 2016 10:00

Khemehekis wrote:Do you have a Géarthnuns word for "cowl"? (In Kankonian, it's hulor.)
Well, we do now! [xP]

The go-to staple of Géarthçins fashion is the rhkasheförs, a unisex, long piece of cloth, commonly translated as "chlamys, chlanis". Everyone has at least one, and it functions like Linus' blanket. It's a shawl! It's a blanket! It's a shawl! It's a tent! It's a shawl! It's a scarf! It's a shawl! It's a hobo's bundle! It's a shawl! It's a cowl! That's probably how that would play out locally.

But to say we did, a "cowl" is rhkaçejets, a "rhka-hood". That captures the total awesomeness of a monk's cowl. What the Batman sports, however, we'll leave to another lexical day.
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Post by OTʜᴇB » 30 Oct 2016 12:33

Khemehekis wrote:
Dormouse559 wrote:
Khemehekis wrote:Similarly, the old Wiktionary logo showed an entry with the pronunciation /ˈwɪkʃənɹi/ instead of /ˈwɪkʃənæɹi/. What was up with that?
That's a typical British pronunciation of the word. The first vowel in -ary and -ory is usually deleted or reduced in British English.
Like in "secretary"? I didn't know the British did that with other -ary and -ory words, though.
It varies. I remove it in "secretary", "military", "factory" (I sometimes leave in vague hints of a schwa in factory) etc., but not in "dictionary"
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Post by Aszev » 30 Oct 2016 12:45

GrandPiano wrote:Small typo I noticed: The hover text for the Wikipedia icon ( :wikip: ) says "Wikpedia" rather than "Wikipedia".
It's fixed now! Thanks for pointing it out [:)]
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OTʜᴇB wrote:
Khemehekis wrote:
Dormouse559 wrote:
Khemehekis wrote:Similarly, the old Wiktionary logo showed an entry with the pronunciation /ˈwɪkʃənɹi/ instead of /ˈwɪkʃənæɹi/. What was up with that?
That's a typical British pronunciation of the word. The first vowel in -ary and -ory is usually deleted or reduced in British English.
Like in "secretary"? I didn't know the British did that with other -ary and -ory words, though.
It varies. I remove it in "secretary", "military", "factory" (I sometimes leave in vague hints of a schwa in factory) etc., but not in "dictionary"
I syncopate it in all of those words, and furthermore before /ɹ/ my /t/ becomes /tʃ/: /ləˈbɒɹətʃɹi/

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Re: Forum News discussion/feedback thread

Post by Lao Kou » 30 Oct 2016 14:12

Fine, I don't care if we need it or not. For Dormouse and sangi, Cake!

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Post by DesEsseintes » 30 Oct 2016 15:27

Lao Kou wrote:Fine, I don't care if we need it or not. For Dormouse and sangi, Cake!

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DesEsseintes wrote:All hail our new overlords!!
:yout: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lcUHQYhPTE

Down to the sugar caves, lads!

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Post by sangi39 » 31 Oct 2016 00:40

elemtilas wrote:
DesEsseintes wrote:All hail our new overlords!!
:yout: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lcUHQYhPTE

Down to the sugar caves, lads!
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Post by DesEsseintes » 31 Oct 2016 11:18

So I have a mod question: will either of you be taking over the rewarding of ranks? Ossicone seems largely absent these days.

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DesEsseintes wrote:So I have a mod question: will either of you be taking over the rewarding of ranks? Ossicone seems largely absent these days.
Now that is a good question. I'd assume we have the same responsibilities regarding the rewarding of ranks as the Elder Mods ( [:P] ), so I may have to have a quick chat with Aszev about the procedure on that one [:)]
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Frislander wrote:
OTʜᴇB wrote:
Khemehekis wrote:
Dormouse559 wrote:
Khemehekis wrote:Similarly, the old Wiktionary logo showed an entry with the pronunciation /ˈwɪkʃənɹi/ instead of /ˈwɪkʃənæɹi/. What was up with that?
That's a typical British pronunciation of the word. The first vowel in -ary and -ory is usually deleted or reduced in British English.
Like in "secretary"? I didn't know the British did that with other -ary and -ory words, though.
It varies. I remove it in "secretary", "military", "factory" (I sometimes leave in vague hints of a schwa in factory) etc., but not in "dictionary"
I syncopate it in all of those words, and furthermore before /ɹ/ my /t/ becomes /tʃ/: /ləˈbɒɹətʃɹi/
I do something like that, but mine seems to be a little more like [t͡ɕ]
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Post by Lambuzhao » 31 Oct 2016 19:42

That discussion of words in -ary reminds me of the Transatlantic accent - championed by the likes of Katharine Hepburn, Cary Grant, FDR, George Plimpton, William F. Buckley, and Thurston Howell III (actor Jim Backus), and sort of mangled by HRM Leia Organa of Alderaan (actress Carrie Fisher).

Comic actor Moe Howard pokes some fun with the accent from time to time in 3 Chiflados shorts.
Ironically, he plays around with the 'correct' pronunciation of the selfsame word 'secretary' in the short You Natzy Spy, as the fictitious dictator Moe Hailstone.

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