(EE) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

What can I say? It doesn't fit above, put it here. Also the location of board rules/info.
User avatar
Thrice Xandvii
darkness
darkness
Posts: 3829
Joined: 25 Nov 2012 10:13
Location: Carnassus

Re: (EE) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Post by Thrice Xandvii » 25 Nov 2017 08:25

Looks like just a bit of coding (to make the php file) and a few image files is all it takes.
Image

User avatar
Pabappa
cuneiform
cuneiform
Posts: 199
Joined: 18 Nov 2017 02:41
Contact:

Re: (EE) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Post by Pabappa » 25 Nov 2017 22:43

OK thanks, if nobody else objects I'll put the image into my sig in a few days or so, probably with a mint-green color scheme instead of pink and purple.

The code is here:
Spoiler:

Code: Select all


<?php
makeImageF("$q","Eurosti.TTF");

function makeImageF($text, $font="Eurosti.TTF", $W=550, $H=44, $A=0, $X=6, $Y=20, $fsize=12, $color=array(0x80,0x00,0x40), 
$bgcolor=array(0xFF,0xCD,0xE6)){


   $numberone = "Vepis? Papopivapi wapebabom, pa?";
   $numbertwo = "Sazza, lasiafatas bafom.";
   $numberthree = "Šipaši! Bumabi!";
   $numberfour = "Papuprevis, puffi.";
   $numberfive = "Lilalupa wapapetam pallwaba.";

    $numbersix = "Why? Because I grow tulips?";
 $numberseven = "Today is veterans' day.";
 $numbereight = "Hurry! Swim against the current!";
 $numbernine = "I blushed when I saw your insulting gift.";
 $numberten = "Butterflies to freedom fly.";
 
    $a=array($numberone,$numbertwo,$numberthree,$numberfour,$numberfive);


    $keykey = array_rand(array_keys($a)); 

    $text = $a[array_rand($a)];

    $text = $a[$keykey];

    


    $bbb = array($numbersix,$numberseven,$numbereight,$numbernine,$numberten);
     $bext = $bbb[$keykey];

    $im = @imagecreate($W, $H)
        or die("Cannot Initialize new GD image stream");

    $tolor = array(0x00,0x00,0x40);
       
    $background_color = imagecolorallocate($im, $bgcolor[0], $bgcolor[1], $bgcolor[2]);        //RGB color background.
    $text_color = imagecolorallocate($im, $color[0], $color[1], $color[2]);            //RGB color text.

    $text_tolor = imagecolorallocate($im, $tolor[0], $color[1], $color[2]);     

    
    imagettftext($im, $fsize, $A, 6, 20, $text_color, $font, $text);
     imagettftext($im, $fsize, $A, 6, 36, $text_tolor, $font, $bext);
    

   
    header("Content-type: image/png");               
    return imagepng($im);
}

?>

Im sure there's a better way to do it ... Im a novice programmer at best, and PHP isnt my language ... but it works, and the bandwidth used is so tiny that Im not really worried about efficiency. I'd like to eventually make something more elaborate, perhaps a dynamically generated weather report, for which I'd need to learn at least a little bit more code so I could figure out how to position images inside other images and alongside text.

edit: got the weather thing started ... images & text together requires a whole different approach, apparently ... and I wont load it up until i can show something other than just random numbers and static images. right now at http://pabappa.com/pics/weather7.php if anyone's curious, though.
Last edited by Pabappa on 30 Nov 2017 23:33, edited 1 time in total.
Image

User avatar
eldin raigmore
fire
fire
Posts: 6239
Joined: 14 Aug 2010 18:38
Location: SouthEast Michigan

Re: (EE) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Post by eldin raigmore » 30 Nov 2017 19:33

We don't have a Random Sound-Changes Thread. Wouldn't we like one?
We have a Random Phoneme-Inventory Thread; and we have a Sound Change Game Thread.

Also: We don't have a Hangeulization Thread. Wouldn't we like one?
We do have a Romanization Game Thread, and a Cyrillicization Game Thread.

shimobaatar
darkness
darkness
Posts: 10943
Joined: 12 Jul 2013 22:09
Location: PA → IN

Re: (EE) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Post by shimobaatar » 30 Nov 2017 21:52

eldin raigmore wrote:
30 Nov 2017 19:33
We don't have a Random Sound-Changes Thread. Wouldn't we like one?
We have a Random Phoneme-Inventory Thread; and we have a Sound Change Game Thread.
Are you saying you're going to make one?
eldin raigmore wrote:
30 Nov 2017 19:33
Also: We don't have a Hangeulization Thread. Wouldn't we like one?
We do have a Romanization Game Thread, and a Cyrillicization Game Thread.
We have this thread.

User avatar
Creyeditor
mongolian
mongolian
Posts: 4495
Joined: 14 Aug 2012 18:32

Re: (EE) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Post by Creyeditor » 01 Dec 2017 12:51

eldin raigmore wrote:
30 Nov 2017 19:33
We don't have a Random Sound-Changes Thread. Wouldn't we like one?
We have a Random Phoneme-Inventory Thread; and we have a Sound Change Game Thread.[...]
I would post random sound change ideas in the thread you called "Random Phoneme-Inventory Thread", because I understand its title more like "random phonology ideas".
Creyeditor
"Thoughts are free."
Produce, Analyze, Manipulate
1 :deu: 2 :eng: 3 :idn: 4 :fra: 4 :esp:
:con: Ook & Omlűt & Nautli languages & Sperenjas
[<3] Papuan languages, Morphophonology, Lexical Semantics [<3]

User avatar
eldin raigmore
fire
fire
Posts: 6239
Joined: 14 Aug 2010 18:38
Location: SouthEast Michigan

Re: (EE) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Post by eldin raigmore » 04 Dec 2017 23:45

shimobaatar wrote:
30 Nov 2017 21:52
Are you saying you're going to make one?
No; I was only looking for one.

shimobaatar wrote:
30 Nov 2017 21:52
eldin raigmore wrote:
30 Nov 2017 19:33
Also: We don't have a Hangeulization Thread. Wouldn't we like one?
We have this thread.
Thanks!

Creyeditor wrote:
01 Dec 2017 12:51
I would post random sound change ideas in the thread you called "Random Phoneme-Inventory Thread", because I understand its title more like "random phonology ideas".
Thanks!

----------

Where would be the best place to go, to learn about how sound-changes work, and which ones are most likely, and so on?

User avatar
eldin raigmore
fire
fire
Posts: 6239
Joined: 14 Aug 2010 18:38
Location: SouthEast Michigan

Re: (EE) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Post by eldin raigmore » 08 Jan 2018 23:48

Questions about favorite words (or sayings) of children at various ages.
This will be asked in English, but I assume readers will know of some other natlang examples.

Before I was a father, I thought a two-year-old's favorite word was "NO!";
and a three-year-old's favorite word was "MINE!";
and a five-year-old's favorite word was "Why?" (Or "How come?" or "What for?" or other quasi-synonyms);
and a tween-ager's favorite utterance was "It's not fair!".

However, at a certain age -- single digits, but older than five, but I don't remember exactly when --
it seems my daughter's favorite assertion was "I don't need no help!".

(1) Anyone have an idea at what age a typical child says "I don't need no help" (or the equivalent) notably often?
(2) Are there parallel remarks that are the favorites of children speaking other languages?

shimobaatar
darkness
darkness
Posts: 10943
Joined: 12 Jul 2013 22:09
Location: PA → IN

Re: (EE) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Post by shimobaatar » 09 Jan 2018 00:24

Is there any scientific evidence that those are children's "favorite words" at certain ages? To me, those just sound like stereotypes.

User avatar
Axiem
sinic
sinic
Posts: 394
Joined: 10 Sep 2016 05:56

Re: (EE) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Post by Axiem » 09 Jan 2018 02:22

My five-year-old doesn't actually ask "why" questions very often, but she does ask a lot of questions. Often repetitious. Often things she could answer for herself if she just shut up and listened to what was going on five seconds earlier. But not very often starting with "why". She also likes shouting "it's not fair!" when my spouse or I discipline her for (what we consider to be) very reasonable reasons.

Likewise, I don't recall a "mine" phase for either of my children who have been (/are) three, or a "no" phase for my children who have been two.

Meanwhile, my three-year old has since he was two frequently insisted on doing things "by self", however much longer it takes.

So I have no idea where those stereotypes even come from. It sounds like something said by someone who's never had kids.
Conworld: Mto
:con: : Kuvian

User avatar
Thrice Xandvii
darkness
darkness
Posts: 3829
Joined: 25 Nov 2012 10:13
Location: Carnassus

Re: (EE) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Post by Thrice Xandvii » 09 Jan 2018 08:58

I could be wrong, but it seems to me that Eldin isn't asserting that any of those phrases are always, or have to be, said by children at the listed (or any specific) ages per se, but is instead attempting to give some setting information for discussing some early repetitive phrasing of children based on anecdotal or "old-wive's tail"-type information.

As such, I don't really recall my brother having any catch phrases like those when he was in the single-digit and over age brackets. I mean, I remember things I said to him (I'm 12 years older than him) but I don't really remember any particular phases like are described above. I'd have to talk to my mother to get info on myself or my brother since I really don't recall.
Image

User avatar
eldin raigmore
fire
fire
Posts: 6239
Joined: 14 Aug 2010 18:38
Location: SouthEast Michigan

Re: (EE) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Post by eldin raigmore » 10 Jan 2018 00:42

shimobaatar wrote:
09 Jan 2018 00:24
Is there any scientific evidence that those are children's "favorite words" at certain ages?
I don't know of any.
shimobaatar wrote:
09 Jan 2018 00:24
To me, those just sound like stereotypes.
I'm sure the details are just stereotypes. But I think it may be that these are among the favorite phrases of many children at certain stages of development -- whatever the actual ages should be.
That said, my OP shows that, as far as my own experience with the two children I helped raise (my god-daughter and my daughter), I found other oft-used phrases a little more common than these "stereotypical" ones.

Axiem wrote:
09 Jan 2018 02:22
My five-year-old doesn't actually ask "why" questions very often, but she does ask a lot of questions. Often repetitious. Often things she could answer for herself if she just shut up and listened to what was going on five seconds earlier. But not very often starting with "why".
I've heard/read it theorized that kids' favorite follow-up question is likely to be the one that, in their experience, gets the longest response from the adult -- or from adults in general, maybe. This theory says that the kids are still learning speech, and want to elicit a lot of input.
Axiem wrote:
09 Jan 2018 02:22
She also likes shouting "it's not fair!" when my spouse or I discipline her for (what we consider to be) very reasonable reasons.
I'm pretty sure "Not fair!" doesn't have to wait until double-digits. It just seems that from second-hand accounts, it comes to the fore of some folks' offsprings' utterance corpus, around the ages of ten to fifteen, or something like that. I don't recall it happening with my own daughter, though.
Axiem wrote:
09 Jan 2018 02:22
Likewise, I don't recall a "mine" phase for either of my children who have been (/are) three,
My daughter was 17 when her mom died; it was then that she started (in effect) saying "mine" a lot.
Axiem wrote:
09 Jan 2018 02:22
or a "no" phase for my children who have been two.
When my goddaughter was about two, she became very insistent on getting things done her way, and very upset when adults didn't understand what she wanted. I think it was more about the frustration of failing to communicate than anything else.
Axiem wrote:
09 Jan 2018 02:22
Meanwhile, my three-year old has since he was two frequently insisted on doing things "by self", however much longer it takes.
Like my daughter! But a different age.
Axiem wrote:
09 Jan 2018 02:22
So I have no idea where those stereotypes even come from. It sounds like something said by someone who's never had kids.
I don't know where they come from, either. Also, I found my experience with child-raising varied from those stereotypes (if that's what they are) somewhat.

Thrice Xandvii wrote:
09 Jan 2018 08:58
I could be wrong, but it seems to me that Eldin isn't asserting that any of those phrases are always, or have to be, said by children at the listed (or any specific) ages per se, but is instead attempting to give some setting information for discussing some early repetitive phrasing of children based on anecdotal or "old-wive's tale"-type information.
That's right.
Thrice Xandvii wrote:
09 Jan 2018 08:58
As such, I don't really recall my brother having any catch phrases like those when he was in the single-digit and over age brackets. I mean, I remember things I said to him (I'm 12 years older than him) but I don't really remember any particular phases like are described above. I'd have to talk to my mother to get info on myself or my brother since I really don't recall.
Every child I've ever known well enough, has had several catchphrases, different ones at different ages.
(Except I don't remember me ever having any. But my siblings might remember some!)
Kids' catch-phrases don't usually make much sense, IME.
I think the old-wives'-tale sort of sums up favorites of many children. Any particular child's personal favorite might not be that.
I also think the ages given are probably stand-ins for something more accurate but less precise.


Anyway: Are there others? Has anyone else heard or read anything else? Are there near-equivalents in any other languages?

User avatar
Lambuzhao
earth
earth
Posts: 7643
Joined: 13 May 2012 01:57

Re: (EE) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Post by Lambuzhao » 21 Jan 2018 15:18

eldin raigmore wrote:
08 Jan 2018 23:48

However, at a certain age -- single digits, but older than five, but I don't remember exactly when --
it seems my daughter's favorite assertion was "I don't need no help!".

(1) Anyone have an idea at what age a typical child says "I don't need no help" (or the equivalent) notably often?
(2) Are there parallel remarks that are the favorites of children speaking other languages?
No clue what age exactly.

But you remind me of a common trope in Spanish language commercials I have seen both in :per: and :usa:,

in which there's a young child (maybe 4-5 yrs old) who is supposed to demonstrate the ease of use of the product in question.
They will say something assertive like

La próxima vez lo hago solit@
DEF.F.SG next.F time.SG 3SG.M.OBJ do<PRS.1SG> alone.DIM.M/F
Next time I do it by myself

Yo lo hago solit@
1SG.SUB 3SG.M.OBJ do<PRS.1SG> alone.DIM.M/F
I'll do it by myself


One phrase my son loved to use in his 'inquiry stage' (4~6 yrs)was "Let's do X and see what happens".
He was a real scientist. An aggressive researcher, if you will. Do the detriment of snails, pillbugs, millipedes, spiders, wasps, bees and other creepy crawlies around the yard.
Surprsingly, not too many dinged noggins nor scraped knees.

User avatar
LinguistCat
cuneiform
cuneiform
Posts: 149
Joined: 06 May 2017 06:48

Re: (EE) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Post by LinguistCat » 21 Jan 2018 21:23

When I was very very young (maybe even earlier than 2) if I fell, I'd say "Nothing!" before getting up. My mom speculated that she kept asking me if anything was wrong so I got it into my head to say "nothing!" before she could ask to save time. Not sure if that logic holds but it's as good a guess for what was going on as any I have myself. I remember doing it because I think I kept it up til I was about 5 and I have some pretty strong memories still from that time, I just fell a lot less as time went on.

User avatar
eldin raigmore
fire
fire
Posts: 6239
Joined: 14 Aug 2010 18:38
Location: SouthEast Michigan

Re: (EE) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Post by eldin raigmore » 25 Jan 2018 00:35

Lambuzhao wrote:
21 Jan 2018 15:18
One phrase my son loved to use in his 'inquiry stage' (4~6 yrs)was "Let's do X and see what happens".
He was a real scientist. An aggressive researcher, if you will. Do the detriment of snails, pillbugs, millipedes, spiders, wasps, bees and other creepy crawlies around the yard.
Surprsingly, not too many dinged noggins nor scraped knees.
[:)] [B)] [+1] [tick] Good for him!

My father used to say "All children are poets and philosophers and scientists.".
(I think it was Pinker? Could have been someone else.) who said: "All children are anthropologists, and the society they're studying is their family."?

Also; Thanks, LinguistCat!

User avatar
eldin raigmore
fire
fire
Posts: 6239
Joined: 14 Aug 2010 18:38
Location: SouthEast Michigan

Re: (EE) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Post by eldin raigmore » 28 Mar 2018 19:09

Which is the correct English noun : —— “Tremendosity” Or “tremendousness”?
And why?

User avatar
Dezinaa
roman
roman
Posts: 908
Joined: 13 Oct 2013 19:33
Location: tunta, àn paànmúnu’ai

Re: (EE) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Post by Dezinaa » 29 Mar 2018 00:44

eldin raigmore wrote:
28 Mar 2018 19:09
Which is the correct English noun : —— “Tremendosity” Or “tremendousness”?
And why?
New Oxford American Dictionary says "tremendousness."

User avatar
eldin raigmore
fire
fire
Posts: 6239
Joined: 14 Aug 2010 18:38
Location: SouthEast Michigan

Re: (EE) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Post by eldin raigmore » 31 Mar 2018 23:08

Dezinaa wrote:
29 Mar 2018 00:44
eldin raigmore wrote:
28 Mar 2018 19:09
Which is the correct English noun : —— “Tremendosity” Or “tremendousness”?
And why?
New Oxford American Dictionary says "tremendousness."
Thanks!
Any idea why tremendosity is not a well formed word?

User avatar
Xonen
moderator
moderator
Posts: 1463
Joined: 15 May 2010 23:25

Re: (EE) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Post by Xonen » 01 Apr 2018 00:26

eldin raigmore wrote:
31 Mar 2018 23:08
Dezinaa wrote:
29 Mar 2018 00:44
eldin raigmore wrote:
28 Mar 2018 19:09
Which is the correct English noun : —— “Tremendosity” Or “tremendousness”?
And why?
New Oxford American Dictionary says "tremendousness."
Thanks!
Any idea why tremendosity is not a well formed word?
There seems to be some discussion in the other thread where you asked the same question... As a rule, it might help if you only ask a question in a single thread; makes following the resulting discussion a bit easier for everyone.

User avatar
eldin raigmore
fire
fire
Posts: 6239
Joined: 14 Aug 2010 18:38
Location: SouthEast Michigan

Re: (EE) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Post by eldin raigmore » 03 Apr 2018 18:27

Xonen wrote:
01 Apr 2018 00:26
There seems to be some discussion in the other thread where you asked the same question... As a rule, it might help if you only ask a question in a single thread; makes following the resulting discussion a bit easier for everyone.
Huh!😧 I didn’t even remember asking it twice!

(BTW your link took me to the right thread but the wrong post; 324 pages ago! But I found the correct post easily enough!)

Sorry, people!

User avatar
eldin raigmore
fire
fire
Posts: 6239
Joined: 14 Aug 2010 18:38
Location: SouthEast Michigan

Re: (EE) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Post by eldin raigmore » 18 Apr 2018 06:33

What’s a better idea; rereduplication or reduplicationation?

Post Reply