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Post by Ossicone » 22 Aug 2014 14:36

This is an ominous placeholder post. [}:D]

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Post by Click » 22 Aug 2014 17:07

What for? [;)]

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Post by DesEsseintes » 22 Aug 2014 21:34

Was it something I said? [O.O]

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Post by Ossicone » 23 Aug 2014 00:11

Secret. And no.

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Post by Lambuzhao » 23 Aug 2014 06:17

Ominous placeholder post
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Unknowable just like a ghost,
Like a plate with butterless toast

Like a Sphinx on a Cliff
Or Charon's skiff:
an Answer
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Post by Ahzoh » 23 Aug 2014 06:42

Lambuzhao wrote:Ominous placeholder post
Ominous placeholder post
Unknowable just like a ghost,
Like a plate with butterless toast

Like a Sphinx on a Cliff
Or Charon's skiff:
an Answer
Waiting
[>:)]
(Is pretend you added i not n)

My breath is bating,
Only knowledge is sating
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Lambuzhao wrote:Ominous placeholder post
Ominous placeholder post
Unknowable just like a ghost,
Like a plate with butterless toast

Like a Sphinx on a Cliff
Or Charon's skiff:
an Answer
Wanting
[>:)]
A very professional-looking illustration to go with this work of unfathomable poetic genius …

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Post by Ahzoh » 23 Aug 2014 15:02

Apparently, there is a law of conlanging, where one has to eventually attempt a triconsonantal root language? Why is a rule?
Here I thought I was being original...
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Post by Dezinaa » 23 Aug 2014 15:08

Dormouse559 wrote:
Lambuzhao wrote:Ominous placeholder post
Ominous placeholder post
Unknowable just like a ghost,
Like a plate with butterless toast

Like a Sphinx on a Cliff
Or Charon's skiff:
an Answer
Wanting
[>:)]
A very professional-looking illustration to go with this work of unfathomable poetic genius …

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That's a huge plate of butterless toast [:D]

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Post by Xing » 23 Aug 2014 15:12

Ahzoh wrote:Apparently, there is a law of conlanging, where one has to eventually attempt a triconsonantal root language? Why is a rule?
Here I thought I was being original...
The triconsonantal lang is among the clichés. As is the nounless lang. Those are the kind of langs that ~half of all conlangers have tried to create.

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Post by sangi39 » 23 Aug 2014 15:35

Xing wrote:
Ahzoh wrote:Apparently, there is a law of conlanging, where one has to eventually attempt a triconsonantal root language? Why is a rule?
Here I thought I was being original...
The triconsonantal lang is among the clichés. As is the nounless lang. Those are the kind of langs that ~half of all conlangers have tried to create.
Yeah, Xing's right, although I wouldn't call it a "rule". On the other hand, it's definitely a noticeable tendency. They never really come to anything though, with most people doing what you (Azhoh) did when you first started, IIRC (tense is marked by these vowels in this syllable while aspect is marked by these vowels in this syllable, and the like). Few people ever go beyond that, never really picking up that actual "triconsonantal" languages also use affixes alongside ablaut.

The only other conlang along these lines I can think of is Alashian, and that's a diachronic Semitic conlang, so it actually comes from Proto-Semitic. I've tried a few times, but at the moment I'm just trying to come up with a diachronically plausible way that a language with heavy use of ablaut might develop.

Triconsonantal languages are one of those conlangs like, as Xing says, 'langs without nouns and 'langs without verbs as well as your typical relex and kitchen-sink conlangs, "minimalists" conlangs and the occasional attempt at creating a 'lang with a different underlying syntax (like stacking or something).
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Post by Ahzoh » 23 Aug 2014 15:56

So I still go farther than most!
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Post by sangi39 » 23 Aug 2014 16:30

Ahzoh wrote:So I still go farther than most!
Very [:D]
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Post by Dormouse559 » 23 Aug 2014 17:05

Dezinaa wrote:That's a huge plate of butterless toast [:D]
And a small Great Sphinx. But the way I see it, you can never have too much butterless toast or too little sphinx.

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Post by fivecountwings » 23 Aug 2014 18:21

sangi39 wrote:
Xing wrote:
Ahzoh wrote:Apparently, there is a law of conlanging, where one has to eventually attempt a triconsonantal root language? Why is a rule?
Here I thought I was being original...
The triconsonantal lang is among the clichés. As is the nounless lang. Those are the kind of langs that ~half of all conlangers have tried to create.
Yeah, Xing's right, although I wouldn't call it a "rule". On the other hand, it's definitely a noticeable tendency. They never really come to anything though, with most people doing what you (Azhoh) did when you first started, IIRC (tense is marked by these vowels in this syllable while aspect is marked by these vowels in this syllable, and the like). Few people ever go beyond that, never really picking up that actual "triconsonantal" languages also use affixes alongside ablaut.

The only other conlang along these lines I can think of is Alashian, and that's a diachronic Semitic conlang, so it actually comes from Proto-Semitic. I've tried a few times, but at the moment I'm just trying to come up with a diachronically plausible way that a language with heavy use of ablaut might develop.

Triconsonantal languages are one of those conlangs like, as Xing says, 'langs without nouns and 'langs without verbs as well as your typical relex and kitchen-sink conlangs, "minimalists" conlangs and the occasional attempt at creating a 'lang with a different underlying syntax (like stacking or something).
According to the Conlangery podcast, whenever you think you've come with an idea that no natlang or conlang has ever done before, you're wrong...
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Post by sangi39 » 23 Aug 2014 18:24

fivecountwings wrote: According to the Conlangery podcast, whenever you think you've come with an idea that no natlang or conlang has ever done before, you're wrong...
There's always "ANADEW" [:D]
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Post by fivecountwings » 23 Aug 2014 18:25

Anadew? What is?
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Post by sangi39 » 23 Aug 2014 18:28

fivecountwings wrote:Anadew? What is?
"Another natlang already does/did, except weirder". You'll see it every so often when someone thinks they've come up with a quirky or seemingly unique feature in a conlang where another user can find an example of a natlang that's already got that feature, except even weirder.
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Post by fivecountwings » 23 Aug 2014 18:29

Makes sense.
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Post by sangi39 » 23 Aug 2014 18:39

fivecountwings wrote:Makes sense.
Apparently the "W" can also stand for "worse" [:P]
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