Are you a conlanger or a conworlder first?

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Re: Are you a conlanger or a conworlder first?

Post by Ànradh » 13 Oct 2017 22:19

Definitely conworlder. Been doing it longer, been doing it better (read 'can actually do it well'.)
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Re: Are you a conlanger or a conworlder first?

Post by gestaltist » 14 Oct 2017 10:52

I created my first conworld when I was eight. I created my first conlang when I was over 30. 'Nuff said.

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Re: Are you a conlanger or a conworlder first?

Post by lsd » 14 Oct 2017 11:06

gestaltist wrote:I created my first conworld when I was eight. I created my first conlang when I was over 30. 'Nuff said.
better late than never?

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Re: Are you a conlanger or a conworlder first?

Post by Axiem » 14 Oct 2017 19:58

I get the sense that on the whole, the board is filled with conlang-first people, rather than conworld-first people. Though that's also based on the relative velocities in posts between the "Conlangs" forum and the "Conworlds" forum.
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Re: Are you a conlanger or a conworlder first?

Post by Thrice Xandvii » 14 Oct 2017 20:50

First and foremost I'm a conscripter. My passion has always been most for inventing written languages. Then, after that, I forge a language and lastly a world for the folks to live in. However, now that I have a world that's been consistent for a while, I am Keen to give it some more thought and do more with it.
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Re: Are you a conlanger or a conworlder first?

Post by Khemehekis » 15 Oct 2017 22:23

Thrice Xandvii wrote:First and foremost I'm a conscripter.
Heh, I knew you were going to say that! 8)
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Re: Are you a conlanger or a conworlder first?

Post by KaiTheHomoSapien » 16 Oct 2017 00:21

Axiem wrote:I get the sense that on the whole, the board is filled with conlang-first people, rather than conworld-first people. Though that's also based on the relative velocities in posts between the "Conlangs" forum and the "Conworlds" forum.
Interestingly, it seems like more people who responded to this thread chose "conworlder" over "conlanger". I didn't expect that. :wat:
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Re: Are you a conlanger or a conworlder first?

Post by Khemehekis » 16 Oct 2017 00:30

KaiTheHomoSapien wrote: Interestingly, it seems like more people who responded to this thread chose "conworlder" over "conlanger". I didn't expect that. :wat:
Neither did I.

I recall that awhile ago, we had a discussion on conlanging vs. conworlding, and someone said that she feels as if an aspect of a conworld needs to be developed perfectly for her to share it, whereas with a conlang, she can just talk about the blueprints of her conlang. Maybe others here are the same way.
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Re: Are you a conlanger or a conworlder first?

Post by Axiem » 16 Oct 2017 01:54

I think there's an element to that, especially because cultural things feel like they need more meat, and are harder to change once said. Also, I think conlangs are easier to describe quickly and easily, because there's a pretty well-understood vocabulary for talking about languages (e.g. "my language has a case system! Here are the cases! Here are weird edge cases!"). Concultures, on the other hand, take more words to explain, especially since it generally requires getting into a completely new head space, as it were.

Consider, for instance, how one would describe the tenses of AAVE as opposed to describing the cultural role (amongst speakers of AAVE) of playing the Dozens.

So I guess it makes sense.



...I still wish more people contributed to the conpeople opinions thread [:'(]
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Re: Are you a conlanger or a conworlder first?

Post by Fluffy8x » 16 Oct 2017 13:43

I feel that I'm a conlanger first, and a conworlder 1.5th.
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Re: Are you a conlanger or a conworlder first?

Post by lsd » 16 Oct 2017 15:29

Fluffy8x wrote:I feel that I'm a conlanger first, and a conworlder 1.5th.
what does it mean 1,5th in your conworld...

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Re: Are you a conlanger or a conworlder first?

Post by elemtilas » 16 Oct 2017 16:00

lsd wrote:
Fluffy8x wrote:I feel that I'm a conlanger first, and a conworlder 1.5th.
what does it mean 1,5th in your conworld...
A little further away, but not that far. And nowhere close to right out.
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Re: Are you a conlanger or a conworlder first?

Post by lsd » 16 Oct 2017 16:48

Not very mathematical... (and I am not still sure enough of folk ordinal arithmetics in eietaalgrond...)

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Re: Are you a conlanger or a conworlder first?

Post by Ànradh » 16 Oct 2017 22:48

I suspect the reason many of us consider ourselves to be conworlders first is because we conlang as part of our conworlding; that this board focuses on that one particular aspect of conworlding might tempt one to assume otherwise though, because -- of course -- conworlding is far from the only reason people conlang.

There's also the fact that, as this board focuses on that one aspect, conlangs will thus receive an otherwise undue level of scrutiny here, so people might find that they seem to be better or more confident conworlders in comparison -- I have my doubts that my geology or meteorology knowledge is advanced as my linguistics knowledge, but were I to make a mistake on one of those topics on this forum, I could put winning bets on which mistake would be corrected first, most often and most throughly.
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Re: Are you a conlanger or a conworlder first?

Post by Khemehekis » 30 Aug 2018 00:25

Khemehekis wrote:
16 Oct 2017 00:30
I recall that awhile ago, we had a discussion on conlanging vs. conworlding, and someone said that she feels as if an aspect of a conworld needs to be developed perfectly for her to share it, whereas with a conlang, she can just talk about the blueprints of her conlang. Maybe others here are the same way.
I just found that post:

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2202&p=97358&#p97358
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Re: Are you a conlanger or a conworlder first?

Post by elemtilas » 30 Aug 2018 00:48

Khemehekis wrote:
30 Aug 2018 00:25
Khemehekis wrote:
16 Oct 2017 00:30
I recall that awhile ago, we had a discussion on conlanging vs. conworlding, and someone said that she feels as if an aspect of a conworld needs to be developed perfectly for her to share it, whereas with a conlang, she can just talk about the blueprints of her conlang. Maybe others here are the same way.
I just found that post:

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2202&p=97358&#p97358
An interesting snapshot, that! That was well before my time here, but what I've noticed is that the situation is almost the reverse: CBB is much more worldbuilding oriented than ZBB while both are still strongly invented language oriented. I don't post much at ZBB, and only look in from time to time, but it seems like very little worldbuilding goes on as compared to CBB.

I've never felt bound by the same restrictions that Micamo speaks of. But then, I may not be proliferate enough!
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Re: Are you a conlanger or a conworlder first?

Post by Khemehekis » 30 Aug 2018 01:04

elemtilas wrote:
30 Aug 2018 00:48
An interesting snapshot, that! That was well before my time here, but what I've noticed is that the situation is almost the reverse: CBB is much more worldbuilding oriented than ZBB while both are still strongly invented language oriented. I don't post much at ZBB, and only look in from time to time, but it seems like very little worldbuilding goes on as compared to CBB.
I haven't dared venture onto the ZBB lately. But Farouche seems to like being pickle-silly (winged dragon people?) in ZBB fashion there. We definitely have a lot of worldbuilding here, though.
I've never felt bound by the same restrictions that Micamo speaks of. But then, I may not be proliferate enough!
Ah, you only have the #1 most detailed conworld of anyone on this board, Elemtilas!
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Re: Are you a conlanger or a conworlder first?

Post by elemtilas » 30 Aug 2018 03:57

Khemehekis wrote:
30 Aug 2018 01:04
elemtilas wrote:
30 Aug 2018 00:48
An interesting snapshot, that! That was well before my time here, but what I've noticed is that the situation is almost the reverse: CBB is much more worldbuilding oriented than ZBB while both are still strongly invented language oriented. I don't post much at ZBB, and only look in from time to time, but it seems like very little worldbuilding goes on as compared to CBB.
I haven't dared venture onto the ZBB lately. But Farouche seems to like being pickle-silly (winged dragon people?) in ZBB fashion there. We definitely have a lot of worldbuilding here, though.
Anyway, they've moved.

There is no geopoetical forum in the new place yet, so that leaves CBB as the long-form / discussion forum.
I've never felt bound by the same restrictions that Micamo speaks of. But then, I may not be proliferate enough!
Ah, you only have the #1 most detailed conworld of anyone on this board, Elemtilas!
Hm. Then I mustn't be dedicated enough!

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Re: Are you a conlanger or a conworlder first?

Post by eldin raigmore » 30 Aug 2018 09:14

Both the ‘lang and the ‘world simultaneously first, in around 1960ish.
The ‘script some 4 to 8 years later, when there was a World’s Fair in Vancouver BC. Or was it a Hemisfair?

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