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Associations

Post by Sodomor » 23 Apr 2011 14:09

Do you ever have phonemes, morphemes, or graphemes that you associate with a color or a picture etc?
For me, /a/ is a really sky blue sound and j is obviously a dark green letter. Does anyone else out there think like this, or am I just crazy?

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Post by Micamo » 23 Apr 2011 14:28

I don't think I have any with images, I tend to associate things more with tactile sensations. /a/ feels warm and /@/ feels fuzzy.
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Re: Associations

Post by Trailsend » 24 Apr 2011 00:12

Sodomor wrote:Does anyone else out there think like this, or am I just crazy?
Lots of people do.
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Re: Associations

Post by Raydred » 24 Apr 2011 17:30

Trailsend wrote:
Sodomor wrote:Does anyone else out there think like this, or am I just crazy?
Lots of people do.
Exactly.

I wish I could do this, sometimes it could be useful. I kind of can but it's something to such a small degree that I have to ask my self what "colour or something else" this "thing" is. Not being a synaesthete, (I'd say) barely any "things" have any type of sensation that they relate to.
One of the things I sort of have is a grapheme-colour relation. A pretty boring type of synesthesia in my opinion. a is red, e is green, i is yellow, 3 is green, one is black and so is O.

Edit:
I wonder if there's anyone around here who can relate numbers (as numerical quantities) with colours. That sure would be interesting to feel and play with.

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Post by eldin raigmore » 03 May 2011 22:51

Trailsend wrote:
Sodomor wrote:Does anyone else out there think like this, or am I just crazy?
Lots of people do.
Which doesn't prove you aren't crazy; just that synesthesia is not evidence of sanity or the lack of it.
(As of date I have seen no evidence of insanity in your posts, unless it's the fact that you post about conlanging at all, which would be evidence of my insanity as well.)

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Post by Sodomor » 07 Aug 2011 23:41

(As of date I have seen no evidence of insanity in your posts, unless it's the fact that you post about conlanging at all, which would be evidence of my insanity as well.)
Haha, that's good. I was worried there when I mapped out the IPA vowels according to which ones were wet and which ones were dry.

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Post by Zumir » 08 Aug 2011 00:23

[y] is bright blue for me, [e] is reddish orange, and so on.
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Post by plathhs » 08 Aug 2011 00:50

Nope. Not those. But weekdays have colours! :mrgreen:

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Post by Bristel » 08 Aug 2011 05:14

I don't have any color or sensory associations with letters, numbers, words or people.

I kinda wish I did, but I know some people who actually find it imposing in some ways.
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Re: Associations

Post by Sodomor » 08 Aug 2011 05:18

Yes, I'm sure it's quite annoying when the letters are written in the wrong colors or whatever.

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Post by Tanni » 08 Aug 2011 20:00

Bristel wrote:I don't have any color or sensory associations with letters, numbers, words or people.
Lucky you!
Bristel wrote:I kinda wish I did, but I know some people who actually find it imposing in some ways.
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Post by Bristel » 09 Aug 2011 17:37

Well, like any ability, I'm sure there are benefits and negative aspects.

It is always interesting to hear about a synesthete's sensory perceptions, because it is so different to my own senses, and I almost cannot imagine what it must be like, to have this extra sort of experience along with every color, sight or sound or emotion.

I read a book about Daniel Tammet, a savant who has synesthesia, and I wonder if he uses that ability in his conlangs.

He created a conlang called Mänti, which I think is influenced by the Finnic languages.
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Re: Associations

Post by Ear of the Sphinx » 09 Aug 2011 17:48

Moi, I feel [e y] creepy and [ɛ ʉ] calm. [ɒ ɜ] seem very calm as well, but not [o]. [œ] is rather smooth (non-creepy). is undefined.

3 and 5 are nice, but 3 is too conceited. 4 is calm and upright. 7 is full of vanity. 8 is an elephant, thus not a number.
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Re: Associations

Post by Sodomor » 24 Aug 2011 22:45

8 is an elephant, thus not a number.
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Post by cybrxkhan » 24 Aug 2011 22:49

I just associate some with certain vague mental images I have of certain real-world cultures. Most of these make sense - /q/ and Islamic culture/architecture/art/whatever (because of Arabic), nasalization and French people (because... French has it), /ts/ and Japanese culture (because... um... Japanese has it,) etc.
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Post by Ceresz » 24 Aug 2011 23:58

plathhs wrote:Nope. Not those. But weekdays have colours! :mrgreen:

Monday
Tuesday
Wednesday
Thursday
Friday
Saturday
Sunday
That is just so wrong :P.

Weekdays:
Monday
Tuesday
Wednesday
Thursday
Friday
Saturday
Sunday


Numbers:
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0
If you can't see it, zero is white.

Letters:
A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z Å Ä Ö

I've pretty much always associated letters, weekdays and numbers with certain colours, but not sounds. But I guess high vowels feel more blue, while mid vowels feel somewhat orange and low vowels feel kinda green.

Some of the colours are kinda wrong, but those were the closest I could find.
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Re: Associations

Post by Sodomor » 25 Aug 2011 00:06

Weekdays:
Monday
Tuesday
Wednesday
Thursday
Friday
Saturday
Sunday

Numbers:
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
That's even worse

Monday
Tuesday
Wednesday
Thursday
Friday
Saturday
Sunday

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0

Sorry, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 don't have much of a color

I've also been seeing phonologies by color based on their stops and nasals.

p t k q
b d g
m n


oh, and s is really green. as in makes all letters around it seem green

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Re: Associations

Post by Raydred » 25 Aug 2011 01:48

I don't even know if I'd categorise myself as synasthete but I find the contrast I see in the way everyone associates things including myself hilariously stupid.
Edit:Without meaning to offend anyone, everyone's else associations seem so ugly.
Edit2:
I just associate some with certain vague mental images I have of certain real-world cultures. Most of these make sense - /q/ and Islamic culture/architecture/art/whatever (because of Arabic), nasalization and French people (because... French has it), /ts/ and Japanese culture (because... um... Japanese has it,) etc.
I think that's pretty normal. Even though the ts doesn't really remind of Japanese, only if you add an "u"->/tsu/ .
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Re: Associations

Post by Ceresz » 25 Aug 2011 02:01

Don't worry, I'm not offended. I think everyone who have these types of associations feel that about everyone else's associations.

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