Overrated Historical people

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Re: Overrated Historical people

Post by Xing » 17 Jul 2012 08:56

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Re: Overrated Historical people

Post by DrGeoffStandish » 17 Jul 2012 18:12

Overrated: Mother Teresa. (In fact, she was shear evil torturing tens of thousands of third-world kids.)
Underrated: Richard Nixon.
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Re: Overrated Historical people

Post by DrGeoffStandish » 17 Jul 2012 18:18

Two more overrated people: Mahatma Gandhi and Dalai Lama.
Thakowsaizmu wrote:Nixon was awesome.
I hope you're not ironic. :wat:
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Re: Overrated Historical people

Post by Thakowsaizmu » 17 Jul 2012 18:19

Morpheus wrote:
Thakowsaizmu wrote:Nixon was awesome.
I hope you're not ironic. :wat:
Nah. I think he gets a really bad rap.

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Re: Overrated Historical people

Post by DrGeoffStandish » 17 Jul 2012 18:29

Thakowsaizmu wrote:Nah. I think he gets a really bad rap.
Nixon was perhaps not the best US president post-WWII but certainly not the worst. (Best: Bush Sr., Kennedy and Clinton. Worst: Bush Jr., Kennedy and Carter. Yeah, Kennedy was both one of the best and one of the worst.)
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Re: Overrated Historical people

Post by Solarius » 17 Jul 2012 18:30

Thakowsaizmu wrote:
Morpheus wrote:
Thakowsaizmu wrote:Nixon was awesome.
I hope you're not ironic. :wat:
Nah. I think he gets a really bad rap.
Johnson too.
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Re: Overrated Historical people

Post by Thakowsaizmu » 17 Jul 2012 18:44

Morpheus wrote:
Thakowsaizmu wrote:Nah. I think he gets a really bad rap.
Nixon was perhaps not the best US president post-WWII but certainly not the worst. (Best: Bush Sr., Kennedy and Clinton. Worst: Bush Jr., Kennedy and Carter. Yeah, Kennedy was both one of the best and one of the worst.)
I can't agree with you there. I can't stand Kennedy. I can't think of a single thing he personally did that was positive.

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Re: Overrated Historical people

Post by Lambuzhao » 17 Jul 2012 18:48

One of the most underrated was (post presidency) Jimmy Carter. Getting through those four years opened more doors for him to show what he could really do in the world, unfettered by the Congress that at the time was majority his own party (Beuh. Okay, more Conservative than him, for sure).


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Re: Overrated Historical people

Post by kiwikami » 18 Jul 2012 02:03

Christopher Columbus.

Visited his tomb once. Football-field sized concrete cross with absolutely nothing in it save for one tiny viewing area where you could see what might be a box that might hold a bit of what might have been him. This was in the economically struggling Dominican Republic, which probably could have used that concrete to build two public schools and a hospital. He didn't discover the Americas, the Vikings were the first to come over, there were already indigenous people, and while I acknowledge that he's an important historical figure, I don't really see the need to have "Columbus sailed the ocean blue in fourteen hundred ninety-two" and the monotone chant of "Niña, Pinta, Santa-María, Niña, Pinta, Santa-María" drilled into the brains of all American children from the day of their first history lesson. It's just... yes. He was a sailor. He made a huge mistake in navigation and landed on another continent. He went back and told people this, and proceeded to set off a chain reaction of exploration that led to thousands of Native Americans dying of European diseases and being used as slaves...

Meh. Ignore my ramblings.
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Re: Overrated Historical people

Post by dh3537 » 18 Jul 2012 02:21

kiwikami wrote:Christopher Columbus.

Visited his tomb once. Football-field sized concrete cross with absolutely nothing in it save for one tiny viewing area where you could see what might be a box that might hold a bit of what might have been him. This was in the economically struggling Dominican Republic, which probably could have used that concrete to build two public schools and a hospital. He didn't discover the Americas, the Vikings were the first to come over, there were already indigenous people, and while I acknowledge that he's an important historical figure, I don't really see the need to have "Columbus sailed the ocean blue in fourteen hundred ninety-two" and the monotone chant of "Niña, Pinta, Santa-María, Niña, Pinta, Santa-María" drilled into the brains of all American children from the day of their first history lesson. It's just... yes. He was a sailor. He made a huge mistake in navigation and landed on another continent. He went back and told people this, and proceeded to set off a chain reaction of exploration that led to thousands of Native Americans dying of European diseases and being used as slaves...

Meh. Ignore my ramblings.
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Re: Overrated Historical people

Post by Lambuzhao » 18 Jul 2012 02:31

kiwikami wrote: Meh. Ignore my ramblings.

Better out than in!

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Re: Overrated Historical people

Post by Omzinesý » 18 Jul 2012 19:25

kiwikami wrote:Christopher Columbus.

Visited his tomb once. Football-field sized concrete cross with absolutely nothing in it save for one tiny viewing area where you could see what might be a box that might hold a bit of what might have been him. This was in the economically struggling Dominican Republic, which probably could have used that concrete to build two public schools and a hospital. He didn't discover the Americas, the Vikings were the first to come over, there were already indigenous people, and while I acknowledge that he's an important historical figure, I don't really see the need to have "Columbus sailed the ocean blue in fourteen hundred ninety-two" and the monotone chant of "Niña, Pinta, Santa-María, Niña, Pinta, Santa-María" drilled into the brains of all American children from the day of their first history lesson. It's just... yes. He was a sailor. He made a huge mistake in navigation and landed on another continent. He went back and told people this, and proceeded to set off a chain reaction of exploration that led to thousands of Native Americans dying of European diseases and being used as slaves...

Meh. Ignore my ramblings.
He didn't make a mistake in navigation; the earth was wrong.

The European super power ,after all, came to be because his exploration. He was the first one having somebody to exploit the discoery, and understand it was a discovery.

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Re: Overrated Historical people

Post by Solarius » 18 Jul 2012 19:27

Omzinesý wrote:
kiwikami wrote:Christopher Columbus.

Visited his tomb once. Football-field sized concrete cross with absolutely nothing in it save for one tiny viewing area where you could see what might be a box that might hold a bit of what might have been him. This was in the economically struggling Dominican Republic, which probably could have used that concrete to build two public schools and a hospital. He didn't discover the Americas, the Vikings were the first to come over, there were already indigenous people, and while I acknowledge that he's an important historical figure, I don't really see the need to have "Columbus sailed the ocean blue in fourteen hundred ninety-two" and the monotone chant of "Niña, Pinta, Santa-María, Niña, Pinta, Santa-María" drilled into the brains of all American children from the day of their first history lesson. It's just... yes. He was a sailor. He made a huge mistake in navigation and landed on another continent. He went back and told people this, and proceeded to set off a chain reaction of exploration that led to thousands of Native Americans dying of European diseases and being used as slaves...

Meh. Ignore my ramblings.
He didn't make a mistake in navigation; the earth was wrong.
He thought the earth was smaller than it was.
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Re: Overrated Historical people

Post by MrKrov » 18 Jul 2012 19:33

I believe he was being facetious.

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Re: Overrated Historical people

Post by Solarius » 18 Jul 2012 19:36

MrKrov wrote:I believe he was being facetious.
Columbus?
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Re: Overrated Historical people

Post by MrKrov » 18 Jul 2012 19:37

[:S] Omzinesý

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Re: Overrated Historical people

Post by Omzinesý » 18 Jul 2012 19:40

MrKrov wrote:[:S] Omzinesý
Vad?

Do you mean I am overrated. That true, at last of myself.

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Re: Overrated Historical people

Post by Ànradh » 18 Jul 2012 22:31

Heh. No, he means you were the one being facetious about the size of the Earth.
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Re: Overrated Historical people

Post by Lambuzhao » 27 Jul 2012 13:59

Hey, did I ever tell you the one about being facetious about the size of the Earth?
If you're facetious and they don't like it - they flatten you.
But, if you're facetious and they do like it - word'll get around.

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