Romlang attempt

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Romlang attempt

Post by wakeagainstthefall » 08 Apr 2013 01:49

This language, which I don't have a name for yet, is supposed to be lexically and to an extent phonologically influenced by Greek. My goal was just to make a romance language that was to my liking, not for the language to be completely plausible, although that would be preferred.

A a /a/
B b /β/ (only appears in loan words)
C c /k/
D d /ð/
E e /ɛ/
F f /ɸ/
G g /g/ before e or i, /ɣ/ before a, o, or u
H h /χ/ (voiceless uvular fricative) appears only at the end of certain nouns and in loan words
I i /i/
J j /j/
K k /k/ (only appears in loan words)
L l /l/
M m /m/
N n /n/
O o /ɔ/
P p /p/
R r /ɾ/, /r/ initially
S s /s/ initially, /ʒ/ between vowels, /ʃ/ at the ends of words
T t /t/
U u /u/
V v /β/
Y y /i/ (only appears in Greek loan words)
Z z = same tendencies as S (only appears in Greek loan words)

ei /ej/
ai /aj/
oi /oj/ (rare)
au /aʊ/
eu /eu/

th /θ/
sc /ʃ/

Sound Changes

a: > a
e: > e
i: > i
o: > o
u: > u
o > ɔ
o >u
u > o
i > e
u > u
e > a (sometimes)
a > e or ej (sometimes)

ai > ɛ
oi > e
au > a or u
eu > iu
VV > V

b > β
f > ɸ
d > ð
(e, i) before a vowel > j
initial w before e > β
final t > d > ð
final d > Ø
intervocalic s > z > ʒ
intervocalic p > β
g before a, o, u > ɣ
final r after o > x (voiceless uvular fricative)
kt > tk > θk > θ
ks > ʃ
ks after u > k
sk > ʃ
final s > ʃ
cluster with initial p > v or initial p > i
-are, -ere, -ire > -ale, -ele, -ile
final s after i, u > Ø
final m, n > Ø
consonant after m (except n) or r > Ø in some places
n before f, v, s > Ø
r before β > Ø in most places
intervocalic n > m in some places
r before consonants > Ø or i in many places
l > i in some places
h > Ø
w (except initially before e) in some places > Ø

Of course, these sound changes are not binding. These are just guidelines.

definite articles - u, i (o, e before or after u or i)
indefinite articles - um
Plural endings
celu > celi
luvos > luvi
lume > lumi
des > dei
ocu > oci
ou > oji

definite articles - sing. a, plu. e (u, i before or after a or e)
indefinite articles - uma
Plural endings
Sing. Plu.
petha > pethe
nothe > nothei
avoh > avore
les > lei
nai > naje
stea > stei
luc > luce
* = literary or formal
() = informal/uneducated

sele - to be

Present Indicative
su sume *sumos
es (ei) esade
esad sune *sunad

Simple Past
fi fimu
fith fithe
fid firu

era erame *eramos
eras erasa (erase)
erad erane *eranad

selo seleme
seles selesa
seled selene

pojele - to be able to (can)

Present Indicative
posu posume
pos posade
posad posune

Simple Past
poi poimu
poith poithe
poiu poiru


candale - to sing

Present Indicative
cando candame *candamos
candas candasa (candase)
candad candane *candanad

Simple Past
candai candamu
candath *candast candathe
candu candaru

candava candavame *candavamos
candavas candavasa (candavase)
candavad candavane *candavanad

candalo candaleme
candales candalesa
candaled candalene


Past Participle


scrivele - to write

Present Indicative
scrivo scriveme *scrivemos
scrives scrivesa (scrivese)
scrived scrivene *scrivenad

Simple Past
scrivei scrivemu
scriveth *scrivest scrivethe
scriviu scriveru

scriveva scrivevame *scrivevamos
scrivevas scrivevasa (scrivevase)
scrivevad scrivevane *scrivevanad

scrivelo scriveleme
scriveles scrivelesa
scriveled scrivelene


adile - to hear

Present Indicative
ado adime *adimos
ades adisa (adise)
adid adine *adinad

Simple Past
adei adimu
adith *adist adithe
adiu adiru

adeva adevame *adevamos
adevas adevasa (adevase)
adevad adevane *adevanad

adilo adileme
adiles adilesa
adiled adilene
Masculine endings
sing. -u, plu. -i

sing. -a, plu. -e

sing. -e, plu. -ei

To make an adjective that ends in -u into an adverb, replace ending with -e.
To make an adjective that ends in -e or a consonant into an adverb, replace ending with -ai or add -ai to the end of the consonant.
Rough sample:
Genesis 1:1-5
Greek script:
Έιου αιγός ου Δέου κρέου ο κέλου ιδ α τέιρα. Έια όρα, α τέιρα εράδ βόθα ιδ σει φόρμα· α οψόυρα εράδ όυρα ου βέισου δαυ αβίσου, ιδ ου Σπίριτου δαυ Δέου ολαβάδ όυρα ι μέρι. Τοκ ου Δέου λέιου, «Σαδ ου λόυμε,» ιδ εράδ λόυμε. Ου Δέου σπάθου καυ λόυμε εράδ βόμου, ιδ σεβάλου ο λόυμε δαυ οψόυρα. Κάηου ο λόυμε «δες» ιδ κάηου α οψόυρα «νόθε.» Τοκ βέμιρου ο βεσπέρου ιδ ου μεδόμου· ίθου εράδ ου πρίμου δες.

Latin script:
Eiu aigos u Deu creu o celu id a teira. Eia ora, a teira erad votha id sei forma; a oscura erad ura u veisu dau avisu, id u Spiritu dau Deu olavad ura i meri. Toc u Deu leiu, "Sad u lume," id erad lume. U Deu spathu cau lume erad vomu, id sevalu o lume dau oscura. Caju o lume "des" id a oscura "nothe." Toc vemiru o vesperu id u medomu: ithu erad u primu des.

In the beginning God created the [sky] and the earth. [In this hour,] the earth was empty [and without form,] darkness was over the [face] of the [abyss,] and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters. [Then] God said, “[May] there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. (God) called the light “day,” and the darkness “night.” [Then came] evening [and the] morning: [this was] the first day.
Let me know what other information you'd like me to provide if this is too incomplete. Also, the notes I made didn't sync correctly on the computer, so these aren't completely updated.
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Re: Romlang attempt

Post by Micamo » 08 Apr 2013 21:53

I like it. I think you should mess more with the syntax, though.
My pronouns are <xie> [ʒiː] / <xer> [ʒɚ]

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Re: Romlang attempt

Post by wakeagainstthefall » 08 Apr 2013 22:07

What do you mean?

Oh, I forgot some things. SVO, adjective before noun under influence of Greek, forms basic subjunctives sentences like Baltic languages, for example:
Spanish: Puedo correr. (lit. I can to run.)
But the same sentence would be subjunctive in my romlang, similar to Greek and Romanian:
Posu ca cura. (lit. I can that I run.)

-The future can be anylitically expressed by using the present tense of vemile (to come) and a + infinitive.
-The passive voice is expressed by using vemile + past participle.
-An infinitive can not be used as a noun, like Latin Errare est humanum. Instead, the gerund with the masculine definite or indefinite article is used. For example: U ligam au veida esad vomu. (Loving life is good.) This can also be used in negative commands: Dalomi u candam! (Stop singing!)
-A more polite way of forming a negative command is to use mei + subjunctive: Mei candes. (lit. Lest you sing.)
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Re: Romlang attempt

Post by Omzinesý » 09 Apr 2013 18:08

How are <c>, <th> and <j> pronounced?

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Re: Romlang attempt

Post by Click » 09 Apr 2013 19:33

Omzinesý wrote:How are <c>, <th> and <j> pronounced?
Here you are.
wakeagainstthefall wrote:C c /k/
J j /j/
th /θ/

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