naming languages: is it that freaking hard?

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naming languages: is it that freaking hard?

Post by fruityloops » 12 Sep 2018 15:06

I know it's not a requirement, but i need some help with naming languages to make sure things are consistent across the board. i don't wanna end up having people with names that are complete gibberish. thing is, it scares me alot to deal with all these derivational morphos, glides, and all that.

like take for example, rogga. it has cvccv pattern of sorts. when i first thought of the language, it was gonna be rough with an emphasis on guttural words (perhaps consonants?). again, this sounds like a load of BS and me comic won't made at all within several years.

note: wanted to tried that vuglar program that does language generator but i got scared away buying it due to its inaccuracies.

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Re: naming languages: is it that freaking hard?

Post by Dormouse559 » 12 Sep 2018 15:40

Could you elaborate on what problems you're encountering? The fact that one word doesn't fit your aesthetic doesn't tell us much.

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Re: naming languages: is it that freaking hard?

Post by fruityloops » 12 Sep 2018 18:48

i tried going for a pattern but i ended up with words that were hard to pronounce. for example.

  • Sorve
  • Dossa
  • Loltu
  • Dyklo
  • Nizga
  • Titmu
  • Hihpa
  • Lanzy
a few were easy but some i didn't know what to do with.

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Re: naming languages: is it that freaking hard?

Post by gestaltist » 12 Sep 2018 20:02

I don't see anything wrong with these words. Might be you're comparing them to English too much. My native language has a lot of words English speakers struggle with...

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Re: naming languages: is it that freaking hard?

Post by Dormouse559 » 13 Sep 2018 04:29

And this is a naming language; if you don't like a word form, don't use it. Only pick words that meet your standards.

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Re: naming languages: is it that freaking hard?

Post by elemtilas » 13 Sep 2018 04:49

fruityloops wrote:
12 Sep 2018 18:48
i tried going for a pattern but i ended up with words that were hard to pronounce. for example.

  • Sorve
  • Dossa
  • Loltu
  • Dyklo
  • Nizga
  • Titmu
  • Hihpa
  • Lanzy
a few were easy but some i didn't know what to do with.
They all seem very straight-forward to me. What are the issues that you don't know what to do with?

I mean, to me, if you had listed

coxswain
gunwale
forecastle

as tricky words, I'd agree! Cos, they're not pronounced anything like how they're spelled. They're horrid even by English's standards!
Spoiler:
/kɑksən/
/ˈɡʌnəl/
/ˈfoʊkˌsəl/
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Re: naming languages: is it that freaking hard?

Post by sangi39 » 13 Sep 2018 17:09

elemtilas wrote:
13 Sep 2018 04:49
fruityloops wrote:
12 Sep 2018 18:48
i tried going for a pattern but i ended up with words that were hard to pronounce. for example.

  • Sorve
  • Dossa
  • Loltu
  • Dyklo
  • Nizga
  • Titmu
  • Hihpa
  • Lanzy
a few were easy but some i didn't know what to do with.
They all seem very straight-forward to me. What are the issues that you don't know what to do with?

I mean, to me, if you had listed

coxswain
gunwale
forecastle

as tricky words, I'd agree! Cos, they're not pronounced anything like how they're spelled. They're horrid even by English's standards!
Spoiler:
/kɑksən/
/ˈɡʌnəl/
/ˈfoʊkˌsəl/
Don't forget Loughborough [:P]
You can tell the same lie a thousand times,
But it never gets any more true,
So close your eyes once more and once more believe
That they all still believe in you.
Just one time.

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Re: naming languages: is it that freaking hard?

Post by elemtilas » 13 Sep 2018 23:04

sangi39 wrote:
13 Sep 2018 17:09
coxswain
gunwale
forecastle

Tricky words, cos they're not pronounced anything like how they're spelled. They're horrid even by English's standards!
Spoiler:
/kɑksən/
/ˈɡʌnəl/
/ˈfoʊkˌsəl/
Don't forget Loughborough [:P]
Ha! I mangled that one entirely! [o.O] Who would have guessed part of it rhymes with gruff? And the other part rhymes with macabre?
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Re: naming languages: is it that freaking hard?

Post by sangi39 » 14 Sep 2018 15:29

elemtilas wrote:
13 Sep 2018 23:04
sangi39 wrote:
13 Sep 2018 17:09
coxswain
gunwale
forecastle

Tricky words, cos they're not pronounced anything like how they're spelled. They're horrid even by English's standards!
Spoiler:
/kɑksən/
/ˈɡʌnəl/
/ˈfoʊkˌsəl/
Don't forget Loughborough [:P]
Ha! I mangled that one entirely! [o.O] Who would have guessed part of it rhymes with gruff? And the other part rhymes with macabre?
My ex was asked for directions to there by an Australian couple who read it as /lu:gəbəru:gə/, or something along those lines [:P]
You can tell the same lie a thousand times,
But it never gets any more true,
So close your eyes once more and once more believe
That they all still believe in you.
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Re: naming languages: is it that freaking hard?

Post by Frislander » 14 Sep 2018 15:47

elemtilas wrote:
13 Sep 2018 23:04
sangi39 wrote:
13 Sep 2018 17:09
coxswain
gunwale
forecastle

Tricky words, cos they're not pronounced anything like how they're spelled. They're horrid even by English's standards!
Spoiler:
/kɑksən/
/ˈɡʌnəl/
/ˈfoʊkˌsəl/
Don't forget Loughborough [:P]
Ha! I mangled that one entirely! [o.O] Who would have guessed part of it rhymes with gruff? And the other part rhymes with macabre?
It doesn't rhyme with macabre for me, because I barely pronounce the <re> are all; [maˈkɑːb(ɹ)]

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Re: naming languages: is it that freaking hard?

Post by ixals » 14 Sep 2018 20:24

sangi39 wrote:
14 Sep 2018 15:29
My ex was asked for directions to there by an Australian couple who read it as /lu:gəbəru:gə/, or something along those lines [:P]
There's nothing sounding more like an Australian town than Loogabarooga though [:P]
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Re: naming languages: is it that freaking hard?

Post by elemtilas » 15 Sep 2018 02:45

ixals wrote:
14 Sep 2018 20:24
sangi39 wrote:
14 Sep 2018 15:29
My ex was asked for directions to there by an Australian couple who read it as /lu:gəbəru:gə/, or something along those lines [:P]
There's nothing sounding more like an Australian town than Loogabarooga though [:P]
Well, I've learned there is a Loogabarooga Festival. In Loughborough, of course!
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