Reconstruction Relay

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Reconstruction Relay

Post by Corphishy » 07 Sep 2019 19:06

Hello everybody! About 3 years ago, I was apart of this relay project. The idea was to split everyone into two groups, and then make a protolang for each group that the group members would derive into daughters. Afterwords, the teams would attempt to reconstruct the other team's protolang by analyzing the daughters. Unfortunately, the team I was on for some reason or another seemed to lose interest. I am hopeful that such a project could be successful again, however, as the other team did have a protolang produced on time.

Here is my idea: we get everyone together and divide them in half (hopefully an even amount of people join the project). We could make a discord server where each team can communicate with each other while not being seen by the other or perhaps make a forum like the last project (though I prefer the discord option as I feel like it would expedite the process. Feel free to let me know what you think though). Then, each team gets two weeks to construct the protolangs, then everyone gets another two weeks to make a daughter, then each team gets a final two weeks to reconstruct the opposing side. We could make it a competition to see who makes the most accurate reconstruction.

Now, obviously two weeks is not the most amount of time. This is definitely a speedlang project, which is by design so that the teams don't get distracted by the tiny details. Each language I think should have

1) a phonemic inventory
2) a wordlist (perhaps a swadesh list?)
3) a basic grammar (word order, nominal and verbal morphology--enough to make simple sentences)

If any of you are interested, please reply below.
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Re: Reconstruction Relay

Post by qwed117 » 07 Sep 2019 19:08

hell yeah, I'm up for this!
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Re: Reconstruction Relay

Post by Creyeditor » 07 Sep 2019 19:10

I'm in. I'm not that used to using Discord, so I prefer other options. This sounds like a really cool idea. I hope there will be enough people to make it fun.
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Re: Reconstruction Relay

Post by idov » 07 Sep 2019 20:49

Sounds rad, and I see no issues with me entering. Consider me in.
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Re: Reconstruction Relay

Post by this_is_an_account » 08 Sep 2019 00:59

I'd definitely like to be a part of this!

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Re: Reconstruction Relay

Post by Zekoslav » 08 Sep 2019 11:57

This sounds fun! I've never tried a reconstruction game before, and I think I could come up with a descendant language in such a short time.
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Re: Reconstruction Relay

Post by Solarius » 08 Sep 2019 16:19

I'd be down!
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Re: Reconstruction Relay

Post by Corphishy » 08 Sep 2019 18:23

Okay that's 7 people so far including myself. We just need at least one more person to have 2 group of 4. Besides Creyeditor, does anyone have a problem with using discord? I have no idea how to make a forum with channels that only certain people can see, but I do know how to do that with discord.
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Re: Reconstruction Relay

Post by Solarius » 08 Sep 2019 19:59

Corphishy wrote:
08 Sep 2019 18:23
Okay that's 7 people so far including myself. We just need at least one more person to have 2 group of 4. Besides Creyeditor, does anyone have a problem with using discord? I have no idea how to make a forum with channels that only certain people can see, but I do know how to do that with discord.
My personal preference is for discord I think; might be a bit easier since it's a more immediate platform.
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Re: Reconstruction Relay

Post by Creyeditor » 08 Sep 2019 20:09

I also have an account, so I could join on discord. As I said, I'm just not that used to it [:D] Of course, I will not oppose a majority decision, if I am the only one.
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Re: Reconstruction Relay

Post by CivilixXXX » 08 Sep 2019 21:28

As it seems there's a free place, I assume there isn't any problem with me joining the relay? I'd be happy to participate.
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Re: Reconstruction Relay

Post by Corphishy » 09 Sep 2019 17:48

So, I've run into a bit of a problem. I am unable to make a channel that I as the administrator am not able to see. I don't want to not be able to play, as kind of the whole reason I wanted to rekindle this project was so that I could play as well. One option I thought of was to get a neutral third party to create the channel instead, and so I am not the creator/owner/admin of the server. Alternatively, we could play by the honor rule that I just won't snoop on the other group, which I promise I will not do, leastwise not on purpose.
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Re: Reconstruction Relay

Post by Solarius » 09 Sep 2019 21:11

I trust you fwiw, but whichever is most desired for yall is fine by me.
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Re: Reconstruction Relay

Post by this_is_an_account » 09 Sep 2019 22:22

I also trust you, and if you can't easily find someone to be the third party, I wouldn't have a problem with you being the admin.

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Re: Reconstruction Relay

Post by J Reggie » 10 Sep 2019 15:37

This seems like a really fun relay, but I probably won't have the time to create a language for it. I'll definitely be following it, and if needed I can create discord servers.

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Re: Reconstruction Relay

Post by Corphishy » 10 Sep 2019 20:35

J Reggie wrote:
10 Sep 2019 15:37
This seems like a really fun relay, but I probably won't have the time to create a language for it. I'll definitely be following it, and if needed I can create discord servers.
I feel you, the reason this has gone kind of slowly so far is because I'm budgeting by time between school and other conlanging projects of mine (as well as this one). But yeah, if you want to make a discord server for us with different roles and channels only one or the other team can see that would be swell.

Also, as there are officially at least eight people, I guess I should actually devide you all into the respective groups.

In group A
- Corphishy (me)
- Creyeditor
- this_is_an_account
- CivilixXXX

In group B
- qwed117
- idov
- Zekoslav
- Solarius

Unless anyone here has any objections with such a grouping?
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Re: Reconstruction Relay

Post by Omzinesý » 10 Sep 2019 20:52

Sounds interesting.
The forum has been lacking collaborative projects with limited number of participants.
I though think I don't have time just now.
But good luck guys!

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Re: Reconstruction Relay

Post by Corphishy » 10 Sep 2019 21:31

Omzinesý wrote:
10 Sep 2019 20:52
Sounds interesting.
The forum has been lacking collaborative projects with limited number of participants.
I though think I don't have time just now.
But good luck guys!
Well, it wouldn't be fair to people if they joined in midway through. They'd either get less say on the protolanguage, have less time to derive a daughter language, or have less input on trying to decipher the other teams languages.
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Re: Reconstruction Relay

Post by Solarius » 11 Sep 2019 01:24

I'm ready to go if yall wanna start the servers!
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Re: Reconstruction Relay

Post by J Reggie » 11 Sep 2019 03:59

Here's the discord link: https://discord.gg/vjp7Zn7

When you join the server, if your username is different than on here just say who you are so I can put you in the right role. There are only a few channels now but I can add whatever channels people need.

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