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Re: Conlang Conversation Thread

Post by Dormouse559 » 18 Apr 2016 07:54

U manche de palatalizassiun de /k/ e de /g/ avent lis voélis anteriúris me risapela li sardi.
[ʊ ˈmõ.kə də pa.la.ta.lɪ.zaˈse̯õː də … ɛ də … aˈvã.t‿lʊ vɔˈeː.lɪ.z‿õ.təˈɾe̯uː.ɾʊ mə rɪzaˈpɛːla lɪ saːɾ.dɪ]
The lack of palatalization of /k/ and /g/ before front vowels reminds me of Sardinian.

L'idæa da Tunnisia me sembla rezunable. Puór-étre un'iula mediterrannæa.
[lɪˈdɛː.a da tʊˈne.zɪ̯a mə ˈsãː.bla rə.zʊ.ˈŋaː.blə | ˈpo̯ɑːˈ.ɾ‿e.tɾ‿ʊˈŋ‿e̯oː.la mə.dɪ.tə.raˈnɛː.a]
The Tunisia idea seems reasonable to me. Maybe a Mediterranean island.

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Post by ol bofosh » 18 Apr 2016 11:08

Gnoughisha theerl yoa.
Gnoughish-DAT.MASC.SG love(PST.IND.1SG) 1SG.NOM
[ˈgnou.xi.ʃə θeːrl jɶ]
I loved Gnoughish.

Yoa thirl Gnoughisha.
1SG love.PRS.IND.1SG Gnoughish-ACC.MASC.SG
[jɶ θirl ˈgnou.xi.ʃə]
I love Gnoughish.

Thirl foddirc Gnoughisha yoa.
to.love become.PRS.IND.1SG Gnoughish-DAT.MASC.SG
[θirl ˈfodːirk ˈgnou.xi.ʃə jɶ]
I will love Gnoughish.

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Re: Conlang Conversation Thread

Post by Isfendil » 18 Apr 2016 22:14

Ki Ganoxiša satas?
What is Gnoughish?

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Post by ol bofosh » 18 Apr 2016 22:30

Yean boancolm eamps rou.
1SG.GEN build-lang(SG.MASC.NOM) be-3S.PRS.IND 3SG.NOM
[jɛn ˈbɶn.kolm ɛmps rou]
It is my conlang.

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Re: Conlang Conversation Thread

Post by Isfendil » 18 Apr 2016 22:44

ol bofosh wrote:Yean boancolm eamps rou.
1SG.GEN build-lang(SG.MASC.NOM) be-3S.PRS.IND 3SG.NOM
[jɛn ˈbɶn.kolm ɛmps rou]
It is my conlang.
Dasam?
Explain please?
Spoiler:
[das-am]
explain-2SNG.IMP
(Note: There is no please in Edyssian, or any politesse modifier for imperative phrases. Nor will there be- you can ask why if you're interested)

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Re: Conlang Conversation Thread

Post by Znex » 19 Apr 2016 04:45

Spoiler:
Isfendil wrote:(Note: There is no please in Edyssian, or any politesse modifier for imperative phrases. Nor will there be- you can ask why if you're interested)
Dasam? [:P]
Huni sasai Nauhiʃ ʃina has jaki, huni ʃeu.
He loves the Gnoughish language because he made it.
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Re: Conlang Conversation Thread

Post by Isfendil » 19 Apr 2016 20:10

Jadisto ir Ganoxiša kis'tas?
What is the backstory of Gnoughish?

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Re: Conlang Conversation Thread

Post by Isfendil » 19 Apr 2016 20:14

Znex wrote: Huni sasai Nauhiʃ ʃina has jaki, huni ʃeu.
He loves the Gnoughish language because he made it.
Ko ral læzban er uvo širaba mêta tanz anu.
I would also like to know about your language as well.

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Re: Conlang Conversation Thread

Post by Iyionaku » 19 Apr 2016 20:56

Ratanai pi palitínó biylʻi saverdan can palan nernʻi rogourvetasan o'numasé.

[raˈtanaɪ̯ pi palɪˌtiːˈno ˈba̯iːlʔi savɛrdɐn kɐn ˈpalɐn ˈnɛɾnʔi ˈrogoʊɾˌvɛtasan ɔnumaˈseː]
think-1SG that language-COL have-3SG possibility for people express-3PL level-different-PL DEF_GEN-politeness

I think every language has the possibility for its people to express different levels of politeness.

Miat liyd sao gnoughian disut mataypapam can »Rat acu«, ciʻiancauret pi vut ciet civutan.

[mjat la̯iːd ˈsa.ɔ gənɔʊ̯gian ˈdisʊt ˈmataʃˌpapɐm kɐn "rɐt ˈaku", ˌkiʔɪ̯anˈkaʊ̯rɛt pi vʊt ˈki.ɛt ˈkivʊtɐn]
just because 2SG.POSS Gnoughish lack-PAS.3SG.INAN word-single for "1SG.OBL beg-PAS.2SG", NEG-must-mean-3SG that there_is_not none

Just because your Gnoughish lacks a single word for "Please", that needn't mean there are no possibilies.

Dityaválitvei æ'reyat, iuve, ùpa dityaʻareyvei æʻèlden o'matir.

[dit͡ʃaˈvalɪtvɛɪ̯ œˈrɛʃɐt, juvɛ, ʊpɐ dit͡ʃaʔaˈrɛʃvɛɪ œˈʔɛldɛn ɔˈmatir]
COND-ABL-repeat-COND.2SG DEF_CONC-verb, for_example, or COND-ABL-change-COND.2SG DEF_CONC-melodie DEF_GEN-sentence

You could for example repeat the verb or change the intonation.

(Itispacai pi »matir« angèlcauret "sentence" suca cet "gold", vit iodiaroquadet cut pouquinprèsquadet. Viye, vat saverdanvadian [<3]

[ˌitɪsˈpakaɪ̯ pi "matɪɾ" ˈangɛlˈkaʊ̯rɛt "ˈzɛntɛns" ˈsʊka kɛt "gɔʊ̯ld", vɪt ɪ̯ɔdˌɪ̯aroˈkadɛt‿ʊ‿pɔʊ̯ˌkinprɛsˈkadɛt. va̯iːɛ, vɐt saˈvɛrdanˌvadɪ̯an]
just-notice-1SG that "matir" english-mean-3SG "sentence" as_well like "gold", REL admittedly-strange-seem-3SG but also-interesting-seem-3SG. Oh, DEM possibility-cultural.PL

I just noticed that "matir" means both "sentence" and "gold" in English, which seems strange on the one hand, but interesting on the other. Oh, those cultural opportunities [<3]
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Re: Conlang Conversation Thread

Post by Isfendil » 19 Apr 2016 21:38

Iyionaku wrote:Ratanai pi palitínó biylʻi saverdan can palan nernʻi rogourvetasan o'numasé.

[raˈtanaɪ̯ pi palɪˌtiːˈno ˈba̯iːlʔi savɛrdɐn kɐn ˈpalɐn ˈnɛɾnʔi ˈrogoʊɾˌvɛtasan ɔnumaˈseː]
think-1SG that language-COL have-3SG possibility for people express-3PL level-different-PL DEF_GEN-politeness

I think every language has the possibility for its people to express different levels of politeness.

Miat liyd sao gnoughian disut mataypapam can »Rat acu«, ciʻiancauret pi vut ciet civutan.

[mjat la̯iːd ˈsa.ɔ gənɔʊ̯gian ˈdisʊt ˈmataʃˌpapɐm kɐn "rɐt ˈaku", ˌkiʔɪ̯anˈkaʊ̯rɛt pi vʊt ˈki.ɛt ˈkivʊtɐn]
just because 2SG.POSS Gnoughish lack-PAS.3SG.INAN word-single for "1SG.OBL beg-PAS.2SG", NEG-must-mean-3SG that there_is_not none

Just because your Gnoughish lacks a single word for "Please", that needn't mean there are no possibilies.

Dityaválitvei æ'reyat, iuve, ùpa dityaʻareyvei æʻèlden o'matir.

[dit͡ʃaˈvalɪtvɛɪ̯ œˈrɛʃɐt, juvɛ, ʊpɐ dit͡ʃaʔaˈrɛʃvɛɪ œˈʔɛldɛn ɔˈmatir]
COND-ABL-repeat-COND.2SG DEF_CONC-verb, for_example, or COND-ABL-change-COND.2SG DEF_CONC-melodie DEF_GEN-sentence

You could for example repeat the verb or change the intonation.

(Itispacai pi »matir« angèlcauret "sentence" suca cet "gold", vit iodiaroquadet cut pouquinprèsquadet. Viye, vat saverdanvadian [<3]

[ˌitɪsˈpakaɪ̯ pi "matɪɾ" ˈangɛlˈkaʊ̯rɛt "ˈzɛntɛns" ˈsʊka kɛt "gɔʊ̯ld", vɪt ɪ̯ɔdˌɪ̯aroˈkadɛt‿ʊ‿pɔʊ̯ˌkinprɛsˈkadɛt. va̯iːɛ, vɐt saˈvɛrdanˌvadɪ̯an]
just-notice-1SG that "matir" english-mean-3SG "sentence" as_well like "gold", REL admittedly-strange-seem-3SG but also-interesting-seem-3SG. Oh, DEM possibility-cultural.PL

I just noticed that "matir" means both "sentence" and "gold" in English, which seems strange on the one hand, but interesting on the other. Oh, those cultural opportunities [<3]

Edysis'tas kê šibêl sul lirtîlor neradatas, nêj Ganoxiša. Avoqavu jalora, var pal Edyson, lirtîlor lirtum satas- dulalal masumsas'tas. Lirtumna Nelirratal "subjunkitivo" satara sul Edysi.
It's Edyssian which has no politesse in commands, not Gnoughish. You could soften your voice, but for Edyssians, imperative is a command- anything else is "posturing". Noncompulsive commands should be subjunctive in Edyssian.

Ubal læzbavu satas, um osêl Edysi emsas kysça (var malum nêj Barati-Jûropiani). Kona emtira lau tanz anu?
Your language is pretty, and looks a bit like Edyssian (except obviously not Indo-European). Could you tell us about it as well?

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Re: Conlang Conversation Thread

Post by Iyionaku » 21 Apr 2016 11:07

Re letarai. Bai vadisvius fecun Batħaso vit aubet barcan viyd vat dipunvet ʻòtal. Pariut teʻa ianagirat radanan cet »Shels ħrontok Ogrok« (Birs sa yivitaru Ogrok) nat barcei æ'vit o'teʻat.

[rɛ lɛˈtaraɪ̯. baɪ̯ ˈvadɪsˈvi.ʊs ˈɸɛkʊn batʔaso vɪt ˈaʊ̯bɛt ˈbaɾkɐn va̯iːd vɐt diˈpʊnvɛt ˈʔɔːtɐl. ˈpaɾʲʊt ˈtɛʔa janaˈgiːrɐt raˈdanɐn kɛt "ʃɛls rɔntɔk ˈɔgrɔk" (bɪɾs sa ʃiviˈtaruː ɔgrɔk) nɐt ˈbaɾkɛɪ̯ œˈvɪt ɔˈtɛʔɐt]

1SG believe-1SG. have-1SG culture-similar with Batħaso REL avoid-3SG question-PL because DEM COND-show-COND.3SG weakness. therefore someone must-use-JUS.3SG assumption.PL like "Shels ħrontok Ogrok" (surely 2SG PST-name-PAS.2SG ogrok) when ask-1SG DEF_CONC-name DEF_GEN-someone.OBL

I see. I have a similar culture with Batħaso that avoids questions because that would show weakness. Therefore you have to make assumptions like "Shels ħrontok Ogrok" (Surely your name is Ogrok) when asking for someone's name.

Anaslocan. Bai, cibut Indo-Europas, cùs vut ciavet viusén viydre yanirquotvèli. Evagár, reo papiró germánbul. Cu »CBB Conlang Census« tyaʻaparatssandei ʻerusanutpuʻatan:

[ˈanasˌlɔkɐn. baɪ̯, ˈkibʊt ˌindoːe.uˈrɔpas, kʊs vʊt‿ʲavɛt vi.ʊsˈeːn ˈva̯iːdrɛ ˈʃanirkɔtˌvɛli. ɛvaˈxaːɾ, ˈrɛ.ɔ papiˈroː gɛrˈmanbʊl. kʊ "kɛbɛbɛ kɔnlan t͡sɛnsus" t͡ʃaʔaˌparɐtˈsandɛɪ ʔɛˈruːsɐnʊˌpuʔɐtɐn]

thanks-much. yes, NEG-be.3SG.INAN indo-european, although there_is similarity.PL due_to contact-seemingly-real. too_bad, 1SG.POSS note.COL german-be.3PL. at "CBB Conlang Census" ABL-at_least-find-2SG description.PL-obsolete.PL

Thanks a lot. Yes it's not Indo-European, although there are similarities due to areal contact. Unfortunately, all my notes are in German. At the "CBB Conlang Census", you can find at least quite obsolete descriptions:

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=4725&hilit=Conlang+Census

Cityabicai civat er viusén fecun Edisian liyd ciyisiytovetei IPA. Pured zabai yeʻo valoda, èpa perétbut pi agirei »æ«, cet Yélian.

[kiˈt͡ʃabikaɪ̯ ˈkivɐt ɛɾ vi.ʊˈseːn ˈfɛkʊn ɛˈdisʲan la̯iːd kiʃisa̯iːtɔˈvɛtɛɪ̯ aɪ̯pa. ˈpurɛd ˈcabaɪ̯ ˈʃɛʔɔ vaˈloːdɐ, ɛpɐ pɛˈrɛ̆bʊt pi aˈgirɛɪ̯ "aːeːˈxɛstas", kɛt ˈʃɛli̯an]

NEG-ABL-say-1SG nothing to similarity.PL with Edyssian because NEG-PST-provie-2SG IPA. indeed, like-1SG 3SG.INAN.POSS look-NOMZ, and great-be.3SG.INAN that use-2SG "æ", like Yélian-

I cannot say anything to similarities with Edyssian, as you haven't provided IPA. However, I like its looks, and it's great that you use "æ", like Yélian does.
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Re: Conlang Conversation Thread

Post by masako » 23 Apr 2016 15:26

munua tayo nihatse
Your culture seems neat.

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Re: Conlang Conversation Thread

Post by Iyionaku » 23 Apr 2016 16:24

masako, re vutret reʻiadéspirmebarcai:
[maˈsako, rɛ ˈvʊtrɛt rɛʔiaˌdesəˌpɪɾməˈbaɾkaɪ̯]
masako, 1SG PS_DEM 1SG.REFL-already-while-ask-1SG
Masako, I've been wondering for a while:

Miyde sao palitínreyas disut getan?
[ˈma̯iːdə ˈsa.ɔ paliˈtiːnrɛʃɐs ˈdisʊt ˈgɛtɐn↗]
why Tazaric miss-PAS.3SG.INAN period.PL
Why does your conlang lack periods?
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Post by masako » 25 Apr 2016 00:18

nye kala ke moyape siyonke
Because Kala does not use punctuation.



A somewhat related natlang precedent.

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Re: Conlang Conversation Thread

Post by opipik » 27 Apr 2016 19:21

Ka'zeniḡa kaavo mãvoeha.
[kʰɑˀʑɛnʲɪɣɑ kʰɑːβɔ mɑ̃ᵐβoɛ̯hɑ]
ka'ze-ni-ḡa kaa-vo mãvoe-ha
cat-1SG-NOUN car-ADV hit-YPST
Our cat got hit by a car.

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Re: Conlang Conversation Thread

Post by Isfendil » 27 Apr 2016 20:22

opipik wrote:Ka'zeniḡa kaavo mãvoeha.
[kʰɑˀʑɛnʲɪɣɑ kʰɑːβɔ mɑ̃ᵐβoɛ̯hɑ]
ka'ze-ni-ḡa kaa-vo mãvoe-ha
cat-1SG-NOUN car-ADV hit-YPST
Our cat got hit by a car.

Un satas bal?
Is he/she alright?

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Post by opipik » 27 Apr 2016 21:52

'A'anikeho.
[ʔɑʔɑnʲɪkɛhɔ]
'a'a-ni-ke-ho
know-1SG-NEG-PRS
I don't know.

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Post by GrandPiano » 29 Apr 2016 04:07

Oesday Igpay Atinlay ountcay asway away onlangcay?
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Re: Conlang Conversation Thread

Post by Keenir » 29 Apr 2016 10:19

GrandPiano wrote:Oesday Igpay Atinlay ountcay asway away onlangcay?
[ˈɐzdɛɪ̯ ˈɪgpʰɛɪ̯ ˈæʔn̩lɛɪ̯ ˈæ̃ʊ̯̃ʔkʰɛɪ̯ ˈæzwɛɪ̯ əwɛɪ̯ ˈɑnlæɪ̯ŋkʰɛɪ̯]
Does Pig Latin count as a conlang?
I believe its a cipher.
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Post by Corphishy » 29 Apr 2016 13:27

Keenir wrote:I believe its a cipher.
Li sy lau «conlang»i!
NEG also that conlang-ACC.SG
"That's not a conlang either!"
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