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Re: My invented language

Post by Frislander » 14 May 2017 11:58

teengirlsquad wrote:
Frislander wrote:
qwed117 wrote:
Frislander wrote:Your original video and the others sound like English with a completely altered grammar with some East-Asian-sounding words thrown in, to my ears.
Well, I mean, I'm pretty sure that can be used to describe any language.
But in this case it was almost like a text written in English with the words rearranged and some then replaced with forms from other languages/a priori.
I only speak two languages, that's why.
I only speak English fluently (even though I wish I didn't: I'm like OTheB in that I did French and German at school but not enough to make me fluent), but that doesn't stop me from reading about other languages and using that accumulated info to create completely non-European languages. Fluency in other languages is helpful, but it is not essential to being a good conlanger. What really makes a difference is reading about the structure of other languages and understanding how their sounds/verbs/nouns/etc. work as a system, which is not the same as being able to speak the language.

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Re: My invented language

Post by Lao Kou » 14 May 2017 14:08

Frislander wrote:
teengirlsquad wrote:I only speak two languages, that's why.
I only speak English fluently (even though I wish I didn't: I'm like OTheB in that I did French and German at school but not enough to make me fluent), but that doesn't stop me from reading about other languages and using that accumulated info to create completely non-European languages. Fluency in other languages is helpful, but it is not essential to being a good conlanger. What really makes a difference is reading about the structure of other languages and understanding how their sounds/verbs/nouns/etc. work as a system, which is not the same as being able to speak the language.
I pretty much agree with what Frislander has said to this point. Fluency can inform, but is not an end in itself; you need only go to the Language practice thread to see "oh, yawn, so Euro :roll: " natlangs getting mangled in direct, word-for-word English translationese (one would think conlangers would be a little more sensitive to this, but whatevs).

Pick a sound palette that works for you. Do you want it to feel like a comforting butter cookie or do you want it to feel like an edgy, uncomforting un-butter cookie. Grammar? -- a Waltons' Christmas special, Iron Maiden lyrics, a mixture? (ignore "too Euro/IE" -- "Austronesian" seems to be getting a lot of airplay just now) Just create! There will always be uncharitable naysayers on the web; just experiment (or commit) and see how far it takes you. You, or your conspeakers, should tell you where you need to be. [:)]
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Re: My invented language

Post by elemtilas » 14 May 2017 15:17

Lao Kou wrote:Pick a sound palette that works for you. Do you want it to feel like a comforting butter cookie or do you want it to feel like an edgy, uncomforting un-butter cookie. Grammar? -- a Waltons' Christmas special, Iron Maiden lyrics, a mixture? (ignore "too Euro/IE" -- "Austronesian" seems to be getting a lot of airplay just now) Just create! There will always be uncharitable naysayers on the web; just experiment (or commit) and see how far it takes you.
All very sage advice that.
your conspeakers, should tell you where you need to be. [:)]
There's not enough [+1] in the smilie bin for this one! I know very many glossopoets love to shift individual atoms around in order to construct the perfectly planned conlinguistical confection. But there is also something to be said for the wilder side of creation --- just let all that micromanagement go and let the language create itself. The speakers of the language, even if they are just in your subconscious, will guide you where you need to go.
teengirlsquad wrote:I only speak two languages, that's why.
Also, please feel free to make convo-convo with more than single-sentence replies! It's très difficult to actually communicate / learn / get all excited about an invented language when the inventor's talking as if on Twitter.
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Re: My invented language

Post by Frislander » 14 May 2017 15:36

Lao Kou wrote:
Frislander wrote:
teengirlsquad wrote:I only speak two languages, that's why.
I only speak English fluently (even though I wish I didn't: I'm like OTheB in that I did French and German at school but not enough to make me fluent), but that doesn't stop me from reading about other languages and using that accumulated info to create completely non-European languages. Fluency in other languages is helpful, but it is not essential to being a good conlanger. What really makes a difference is reading about the structure of other languages and understanding how their sounds/verbs/nouns/etc. work as a system, which is not the same as being able to speak the language.
I pretty much agree with what Frislander has said to this point. Fluency can inform, but is not an end in itself; you need only go to the Language practice thread to see "oh, yawn, so Euro :roll: " natlangs getting mangled in direct, word-for-word English translationese (one would think conlangers would be a little more sensitive to this, but whatevs).

Pick a sound palette that works for you. Do you want it to feel like a comforting butter cookie or do you want it to feel like an edgy, uncomforting un-butter cookie. Grammar? -- a Waltons' Christmas special, Iron Maiden lyrics, a mixture? (ignore "too Euro/IE" -- "Austronesian" seems to be getting a lot of airplay just now) Just create! There will always be uncharitable naysayers on the web; just experiment (or commit) and see how far it takes you. You, or your conspeakers, should tell you where you need to be. [:)]
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elemtilas wrote:Also, please feel free to make convo-convo with more than single-sentence replies! It's très difficult to actually communicate / learn / get all excited about an invented language when the inventor's talking as if on Twitter.
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Re: My invented language

Post by OTʜᴇB » 14 May 2017 17:18

elemtilas wrote:There's not enough [+1] in the smilie bin for this one!
Maybe this can help:
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Re: My invented language

Post by elemtilas » 14 May 2017 19:16

OTʜᴇB wrote:
elemtilas wrote:There's not enough [+1] in the smilie bin for this one!
Maybe this can help:
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[<3] [<3] [<3] [<3] [<3]

How can we add it to the Smile-o-Rama?
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Re: My invented language

Post by OTʜᴇB » 14 May 2017 19:34

elemtilas wrote:
OTʜᴇB wrote:
elemtilas wrote:There's not enough [+1] in the smilie bin for this one!
Maybe this can help:
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[<3] [<3] [<3] [<3] [<3]

How can we add it to the Smile-o-Rama?
Copy+Paste this where needed:

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[img]http://i.imgur.com/MRkD5pM.png[/img]
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Re: My invented language

Post by elemtilas » 14 May 2017 21:47

OTʜᴇB wrote:
elemtilas wrote:How can we add it to the Smile-o-Rama?
Copy+Paste this where needed:

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[img]http://i.imgur.com/MRkD5pM.png[/img]
Actually, I understand the mechanics of copy-n-paste. What that is was a nudge for someone with appropriate power and authority to add <<Image>> to the little board of smilies and flags and so forth over on the left side of the screen. [:)]
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Re: My invented language

Post by Lao Kou » 15 May 2017 07:04

elemtilas wrote:What that is was a nudge for someone with appropriate power and authority to add <<Image>> to the little board of smilies and flags and so forth over on the left side of the screen. [:)]
Myeh, I'd just leave it. Image'll work for a while, but there will come a time when upping the ante to 1x10 to the 25th power will be needed to express one's exuberism. And upward and upward. Just click [+1] a couple of times if you must -- you are also at liberty, however, to use words like "I wholeheartedly agree", or "I vehemently disagree" to express such sentiments.
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Re: My invented language

Post by OTʜᴇB » 15 May 2017 08:56

Lao Kou wrote:there will come a time when upping the ante to 1x10 to the 25th power will be needed to express one's exuberism.
Don't give me any ideas...
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Re: My invented language

Post by Lao Kou » 15 May 2017 10:18

Methinks we have unfortunately derailed focus from teengirlsquad's lang.
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Re: My invented language

Post by teengirlsquad » 17 May 2017 06:59

Frislander wrote:Your original video and the others sound like English with a completely altered grammar with some East-Asian-sounding words thrown in, to my ears.
To be fair, it is a creole.

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Re: My invented language

Post by Frislander » 17 May 2017 11:58

teengirlsquad wrote:
Frislander wrote:Your original video and the others sound like English with a completely altered grammar with some East-Asian-sounding words thrown in, to my ears.
To be fair, it is a creole.
Ooh, a creole! Why didn't you say so earlier, this makes it all the more fascinating: we don't see many of those round here!

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Re: My invented language

Post by elemtilas » 17 May 2017 16:01

Frislander wrote:
teengirlsquad wrote:To be fair, it is a creole.
Ooh, a creole! Why didn't you say so earlier, this makes it all the more fascinating: we don't see many of those round here!
That's true! Time to spill the gumbo and tell us more about it!!
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Re: My invented language

Post by teengirlsquad » 20 May 2017 08:58

teengirlsquad wrote:
teengirlsquad wrote:In YouTube videos of me speaking in my invented language, the closed captions could easily guess my conlang is mostly English. BTW, check out the closed captions in this video, there's a really funny part. https://youtube.com/watch?v=lM_HYl_pMmA
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Re: My invented language

Post by teengirlsquad » 18 Jan 2018 15:33

Luuking bäkk ån kun ferst miitwiid
Nåwai voi takas ja nåwai voi unohtaa
Beibii bjuu dhuh wuhn, silti terñuu mii ån
Voijuu aser mii håwl uhgeen

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Re: My invented language

Post by teengirlsquad » 20 Jan 2018 09:41

teengirlsquad wrote:
18 Jan 2018 15:33
Luuking bäkk ån kun ferst miitwiid
Nåwai voi takas ja nåwai voi unohtaa
Beibii bjuu dhuh wuhn, silti terñuu mii ån
Voijuu aser mii håwl uhgeen
Could anybody here have a stab?

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Re: My invented language

Post by Thrice Xandvii » 20 Jan 2018 11:10

A stab at... what?
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Re: My invented language

Post by teengirlsquad » 20 Jan 2018 11:37

At translating that passage, duh.

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Re: My invented language

Post by Thrice Xandvii » 20 Jan 2018 12:11

...not sure why that would be obvious as this is your thread about the language. Simply posting an unglossed passage in a romanization doesn't really give any clues as to what anyone is supposed to do with it. (I had guessed you were merely posting it to show what the 'lang looks like written out.)

You may want to actually present some info about your language in the thread. So far, it seems like the vast majority of info here is from people making guesses about your language, I mean, it wasn't until the second page that we even found out it was a creole!
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