New Weekly Indo European Collablang

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Re: New Weekly Indo European Collablang

Post by ixals » 27 Mar 2018 20:59

61. a (Vlürch's suggestion)
62. a
63. a
64. b/c
65. a
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Re: New Weekly Indo European Collablang

Post by Cavaliers327 » 30 Mar 2018 03:49

61. Vlürch's suggestion
62. A
63. C
64. B
65. A


I'm going on vacation for a week, so is anyone willing to take up this thread until I come back( I won't have proper Internet connection).

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Re: New Weekly Indo European Collablang

Post by idov » 07 Apr 2018 17:54

It has been more than eight days. He dead.
The accusative of <emo> is <eminem>. :lat:

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Re: New Weekly Indo European Collablang

Post by Cavaliers327 » 08 Apr 2018 00:14

I'm alive. It's just that I have a lot of exams at the moment so I can't really do much now. It would be great if any of you could maintain the thread with new questions for a while. I will definitely be back to continue the thread.

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Re: New Weekly Indo European Collablang

Post by idov » 08 Apr 2018 02:00

I will proclaim myself the one who asks the question for this round. May they be relevant. Hopefully, I haven't forgotten something and retcon stuff to your disdain.
Something which I believe has been forgotten though is tx > tʰ, since I cannot find it in the document.
Spoiler:
61: Ejectives.
Spoiler:
Vlürch's suggestion (Develop pʼ tʼ kʼ t͡sʼ t͡ʃʼ)
62: Zoroastrianism.
Spoiler:
Incorporate aspects of Zoroastrianism
63: Other Language Influence.
Spoiler:
"C - with majority lexical"
64: Loans.
Spoiler:
B~C
65: Gender reduction.
Spoiler:
Sudden death. I suggest we merge two genders into one within three rounds, but not all three.
66. In PIE, some stems ended in -r in the nominative/accusative, a heteroclitic which was replaced by -n in all other cases.
a. Keep this. (Cases derived from the accusative retain the r-stem.)
b. Retain, but cases derived from the accusative are leveled to the n-stem.
c. Level them all to the r-stem.
d. Level them all to the n-stem.
e. Something else

67. Number of speakers
X. Roughly how many?

68. Consider null copula in some tense?
a. Yes
b. No
c. Something else

69. "Default" grammatical gender for things that are not clear cut
a. Neuter (Like the North Germanic languages)
b. Masculine (I think the Balto-Slavic Languages are the best examples)
c. Something else

70. Satellite framed or Verb framed
a. Satellite framed
b. Verb framed
c. Not clear cut

That's what I could come up with that's neither sound changes nor too fundamental. I really think we should come to an agreement on how the comitative works. The (preferred) order of adjective, noun, number and demonstrative and how many times it attaches to the same NP will impact greatly whether it can be called a genuine case. It also raises the question of how we express "and" now that the clitic -kʷe is presumably not doing double-duty. If any question is inappropriate at this time, don't answer it.
The accusative of <emo> is <eminem>. :lat:

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Re: New Weekly Indo European Collablang

Post by Frislander » 08 Apr 2018 21:07

66. d
67. several hundred thousand
68. b
69. a
70. a

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Re: New Weekly Indo European Collablang

Post by Vlürch » 09 Apr 2018 20:38

66. D
67. 556,328 right now, but a civil war and some epidemic trims them down to 203,912
68. A
69. A
70. A/C (...BUT these could become complex locative cases later?)

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Re: New Weekly Indo European Collablang

Post by shimobaatar » 09 Apr 2018 22:29

66: a
67: a (Frislander's suggestion)
68: a
69: a
70: a

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Re: New Weekly Indo European Collablang

Post by Cavaliers327 » 12 Apr 2018 00:46

I've managed to sneak in some time in, but I'm not back yet.

66. D
67. 300,000
68. A
69. A
70. A

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Re: New Weekly Indo European Collablang

Post by idov » 14 Apr 2018 21:14

66. D
67. ~150000
68. B
69. A
70. A/C

Could someone else pick up this thread tonight if Cavaliers isn't going to?
The accusative of <emo> is <eminem>. :lat:

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Re: New Weekly Indo European Collablang

Post by idov » 04 Jul 2018 00:28

All right, noone's said anything in two months and a half so I guess this could do with a bump.
As of now, it looks like all the heteroclitics will become *n and its reflexes.
It also looks like the lang will be null-copula, use the neuter gender a lot and be satellite-framed, so if anyone objects to that, now's the time to let it be known.
I intend to tally the votes and give a new set of five questions within three days unless someone else takes it upon them.
The accusative of <emo> is <eminem>. :lat:

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Re: New Weekly Indo European Collablang

Post by idov » 06 Jul 2018 23:00

All right.
Results from this round:
Spoiler:
66. D
All heteroclitics are leveled to -n
68. A
Null-copula for some tense
69. A
Neuter as "default" gender
70. A
Satellite framed

71. How should we derive a medial connective conjunction?
a. From PIE *h₂énti (Like English "and")
b. From PIE *(h₁)éti (Like Latin "et")
c. From PIE *h₂ew (Like Persian "و - va")
d. From PIE *(h₁)ōd (Like Slavic "a")
e. Something else
f. No medial connective with the meaning of "and"

72. Wh-fronting
a. Obligatory for all such words
b. Obligatory for most
c. Content question words always stay in situ
d. Something else

73. Inflection with numbers
a. Nouns are still inflected for case and number when modified by a number
b. A noun is always in the singular but retains it case when modified by a number
c. Nouns modified by a number larger than one are inflected for the singular of a certain case
d. Something else, more complicated

74. Develop words for "yes" and "no"?
a. Yes
b. No

75. Mobile-s
a. Generally lose the s
b. Generally keep the s
The accusative of <emo> is <eminem>. :lat:

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Re: New Weekly Indo European Collablang

Post by shimobaatar » 07 Jul 2018 03:03

71: c e
72: a b
73: b
74: a
75: b

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Re: New Weekly Indo European Collablang

Post by gokupwned5 » 03 Aug 2018 16:28

71.d
72.a
73.b
74.a
75.b

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Re: New Weekly Indo European Collablang

Post by Vlürch » 03 Aug 2018 16:51

71. C
72. A
73. B
74. A
75. B

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Re: New Weekly Indo European Collablang

Post by Frislander » 13 Aug 2018 14:33

71. c d
72. c
73. b
74. b
75. a

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Re: New Weekly Indo European Collablang

Post by qwed117 » 15 Aug 2018 18:28

71 c
72 b
73 a
74 a
75 b
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Re: New Weekly Indo European Collablang

Post by this_is_an_account » 16 Aug 2018 03:49

Can new people join in on this?

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Re: New Weekly Indo European Collablang

Post by shimobaatar » 16 Aug 2018 15:46

this_is_an_account wrote:
16 Aug 2018 03:49
Can new people join in on this?
I don't see why not!

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Re: New Weekly Indo European Collablang

Post by eldin raigmore » 16 Aug 2018 18:03

shimobaatar wrote:
16 Aug 2018 15:46
this_is_an_account wrote:
16 Aug 2018 03:49
Can new people join in on this?
I don't see why not!
Probably depends how new they are.
<6 y/o probably are insufficiently literate.
<2 y/o probably aren’t yet fluent in their L1.
But everyone’s welcome, as I understand it, to contribute what they are able to!

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