American English Derived Collablang!

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Re: American English Derived Collablang!

Post by Nachtuil » 08 Mar 2018 21:08

Edit: Somehow I missed the first part of the post? Am I going crazy? haha
1a:
Velars: A
Nasals: B
Sibilants: B
h: A
ł: C

1c: A
1e: A

Its extremely tempting, to, if we go with palatals, to fill out all the spots with the same type (ʲ) of secondary articulation.
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Re: American English Derived Collablang!

Post by kiwikami » 08 Mar 2018 22:37

1a: A for all except D for the sibilants
1c: A
1e: B
Edit: Substituted a string instrument for a French interjection.

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Re: American English Derived Collablang!

Post by vo1dwalk3r » 08 Mar 2018 23:05

1a.
velars: B
nasals: A
sibilants: D
/h/: A
/l/: B

1c. A

1e. A

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Re: American English Derived Collablang!

Post by shimobaatar » 08 Mar 2018 23:20

4 (1a velars): c (k g > t͡ʃ d͡ʒ)
5 (1a nasals): b
6 (1a sibilants): b
7 (1a /h/): a
8 (1a /ɫ/): c
9 (1c): c (p t k b d g > b~bʲ d~d͡ʒ g~d͡ʒ v~vʲ ð~j ɣ~j)
10 (1e): b

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Re: American English Derived Collablang!

Post by idov » 09 Mar 2018 15:23

1a. Velars:B
Nasals:C (Apparently it has happened in Lealao Chinantec)
Sibilants: D
h:A
l:A
1c. A
1e. A
The accusative of <emo> is <eminem>. :lat:

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Re: American English Derived Collablang!

Post by Cavaliers327 » 09 Mar 2018 22:06

1a.
Velars : B
Nasals: B
Sibilants: D
With H: A
With l: C

1c: B

1e. B

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Re: American English Derived Collablang!

Post by CarsonDaConlanger » 10 Mar 2018 05:11

The Internet at my house is broken [:'(] , and I have a forensics tournament tomorrow, so the next round of voting will be put off until further notice.

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Re: American English Derived Collablang!

Post by shimobaatar » 10 Mar 2018 16:45

No worries! Take all the time you need.

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Re: American English Derived Collablang!

Post by CarsonDaConlanger » 11 Mar 2018 20:25

Thanks for the patience! The internet is working and our lang is now rolin'!

The results for the last round of voting are as follows:
k,g>kʲ,gʲ/_E
n,ŋ>ɲ/_E
*s,z>ʃ,ʒ/_E
*ʃ,ʒ>ɕ,ʑ/_E*
h>ç/_E
ł>ʎ/_E
b,d,g>ʋ,ð,ɣ/V_V
f,θ,s,ʃ,ɕ>ʋ,ð,z,ʒ,ʑ/V_V
h>Ø/V_V
v,w>ʋ
ɾ>r(tap to trill for those who have trouble reading it)

*this may need to be worked on more do to there essentially being a phonemic difference between ʃ and ʃ (and ʒ and ʒ) now.

Now for the next round of voting:
1: s/z/ʃ/ʒ/ɕ/ʑ
Should we
A) Have ʃ,ʒ>ɕ,ʑ unconditionally, then have s,z>ʃ,ʒ/_E
B) Something else
C) Leave it
2: θs/ðz
Should they
A) change to ts,dz
B) reduce to θ,ð
C) reduce to s,z
D) something else
E) leave them
3: Rhotics Pt1
What should happen to clusters of rɹ as in the new form of water: ʋɑrɹ̩?
A) merge them to r:
B) drop the ɹ̩
C) drop the r
D) insert a ǝ
E) something else
F) leave it
4: Rhotics Pt2
Should we palatalize r and ɹ?
A) yes
B) no
C) r but not ɹ
D) ɹ but not r
5: h between vowels
Should h>Ø/V_V occur before or after palatalization?
A) before: dahi>dai
B) after: dahi>daçi
6: clusters
Should clusters of non palatalized/palatalized consonants be allowed?
A) no antʰʲi>aɲtʰʲi
B) not in the same syllable stʰʲił>sʲtʰʲił
C) yes
7: ʎ and j
Should ʎ and j merge in front of a front vowel(or depending on 6 a palatalized consonant)?
A) yes jɛs>ʎɛs
B) no
Finally 8: should j palatalize the preceding consonant?
A) yes
B) no

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Re: American English Derived Collablang!

Post by shimobaatar » 11 Mar 2018 20:31

1: c
2: b
3: d
4: b
5: a
6: a
7: b
8: a

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Re: American English Derived Collablang!

Post by Ælfwine » 12 Mar 2018 17:36

1. C
2. C
3. E - insert schwa and then drop ɹ̩
4. D
5. B
6. A
7. B
8. B
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Re: American English Derived Collablang!

Post by vo1dwalk3r » 12 Mar 2018 18:06

1. C
2. C
3. E (Ælfwine's suggestion)
4. B
5. A
6. B
7. B
8. A

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Re: American English Derived Collablang!

Post by Nachtuil » 12 Mar 2018 20:28

Will these sound changes be implemented in order or simultaneously?

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Re: American English Derived Collablang!

Post by CarsonDaConlanger » 13 Mar 2018 04:51

Nachtuil wrote:
12 Mar 2018 20:28
Will these sound changes be implemented in order or simultaneously?
In order.

I am suspending the vote count till tomorrow morning, partially because I am lazy, and partially because we need more votes.

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Re: American English Derived Collablang!

Post by idov » 13 Mar 2018 15:43

1. C
2. B
3. (Ælfwine's suggestion)
4. C
5. B
6. B
7. B
8. A
The accusative of <emo> is <eminem>. :lat:

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Re: American English Derived Collablang!

Post by spanick » 13 Mar 2018 17:47

1. A
2. C (but they become geminates)
3. E (Ælfwine's suggestion)
4. D
5. B
6. A
7. B
8. A

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Re: American English Derived Collablang!

Post by CarsonDaConlanger » 15 Mar 2018 16:10

Sorry guys for the delay, got busy. The results are in, and now we have the following changes:
1(C)Nothing will happen to the sybillants.
2(C)θs,ðz>s:z:
3(E)rɹ̩>rǝ
4(B)nothing happens, no palatalization of rhotics
5(B)h>Ø/V_O, h>ç/V_E
6(A)CCʲ>CʲCʲ
7(B)Nothing
8(A)Cj>Cʲj

Now back to vowels.
1 Should we have a major vowel shift?
A: Yes, towards more vowels
B: Yes, towards fewer/roughly the same amount of vowels
C: No
2 Should we monophthongize eɩ oʊ?
A: Yes, to e: o:
B: Yes, to e o
C: No
3 Should we monophthongize aɩ aʊ ɔɩ ju?
A: Yes all
B: Only aɩ
C: Only aʊ
D: Only ɔɩ
E: Only ju
F: A combination of BCDE(say which)
G: No

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Re: American English Derived Collablang!

Post by vo1dwalk3r » 15 Mar 2018 16:13

1. B
2. B
3. B

Are we using Canadian raising?

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Re: American English Derived Collablang!

Post by CarsonDaConlanger » 15 Mar 2018 16:21

No, just GA diphthongs for now.

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Re: American English Derived Collablang!

Post by shimobaatar » 16 Mar 2018 03:15

1: b
2: a
3: f ([aɪ̯] and [aʊ̯])

Why do the question numbers go back to 1 every round? Just a personal preference of the organizer?

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