Speedlang VIII (May 4, 5, 6)

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Speedlang VIII (May 4, 5, 6)

Post by Nachtuil » 28 Apr 2018 17:37

I think the last speedlang was in the fall. I could really go for another one next weekend or the one after. I am more than happy to set some terms myself but does anyone who hasn't set the terms for one before or in a while want to take the lead? I like these a lot for forcing me to explore new grammatical concepts and sometimes sounds.

Past Speedlangs (Because I like context I guess)

i. http://www.aveneca.com/cbb/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5222
ii. http://cbb.aveneca.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5485
iii. http://cbb.aveneca.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5737
iv. viewtopic.php?f=6&t=6032&hilit=speedlang#p251198
v. viewtopic.php?f=6&t=6079&hilit=speedlang
vi. viewtopic.php?f=6&t=6169&hilit=speedlang
vii. viewtopic.php?f=6&t=6346&hilit=speedlang

Edit: I'll post the terms on what is for me, Friday afternoon on the 4th.

Edit:
Terms provided by gestaltist:
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OK, I have defined the rules and I'm not sure if I'll have the time to pop by during the weekend so here it goes:

I have felt for a long time that prosody is a topic that a lot of conlangers ignore or don’t really work on, so I want to make it central to this speedlang. I don’t want to be too restrictive, however, so them’s the rules:

-at least one prosodic element (tone, pitch, stress...) needs to fulfill an important grammatical function
-mora-based prosody is encouraged but not required
-there needs to be at least one morphophonological process motivated by prosody (e.g.: weight-sensitive vowel reduction, tone sandhi, etc.)

And now onto some rules not related to prosody:
-the language should be at least moderately non-configurational (have flexible word order)
-there should be at least 10 phonemic vowel qualities (including diphthongs and length distinction)
-there should be at least two coronal POAs in consonants
-there should be at least one post-velar consonant
-there should be a romanization and it should be underspecified (i.e., there should be some phonemic distinction not marked in the romanization)
Have fun!
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Re: Speedlang VIII

Post by k1234567890y » 28 Apr 2018 17:41

you can start one (:
I prefer to not be referred to with masculine pronouns and nouns such as “he/him/his”.

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Re: Speedlang VIII

Post by Keenir » 29 Apr 2018 07:42

I'll take part; though not the lead.
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Re: Speedlang VIII

Post by Creyeditor » 29 Apr 2018 13:46

I also want to take part, probably with De̤tselo.
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Re: Speedlang VIII

Post by DesEsseintes » 29 Apr 2018 17:24

I’m here to state my genuine interest, along with my likely failure to participate.
Creyeditor wrote:
29 Apr 2018 13:46
I also want to take part, probably with De̤tselo.
Isn’t the whole point to come up with a new language? [O.O]

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Re: Speedlang VIII

Post by Creyeditor » 29 Apr 2018 17:29

DesEsseintes wrote:
29 Apr 2018 17:24
I’m here to state my genuine interest, along with my likely failure to participate.
Creyeditor wrote:
29 Apr 2018 13:46
I also want to take part, probably with De̤tselo.
Isn’t the whole point to come up with a new language? [O.O]
Dump me, took speedlang for conlang relay [:D]
Anyway, I still want to take part [:D]
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Re: Speedlang VIII

Post by Scytheria » 30 Apr 2018 07:36

Sounds interesting - count me in.
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Re: Speedlang VIII (May 4, 5, 6)

Post by Nachtuil » 01 May 2018 23:03

Ok. I'll set it for this coming weekend :) It looks like I'll probably set the terms. I'd like to participate too though. haha

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Re: Speedlang VIII (May 4, 5, 6)

Post by CarsonDaConlanger » 02 May 2018 02:30

Sounds fun!

♫Dear Maria, count me in!♫

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Re: Speedlang VIII (May 4, 5, 6)

Post by gestaltist » 02 May 2018 09:01

Nachtuil: I can gladly set the terms for the speedlang if you don't want to. If you already have something in mind, I will participate and speedlang instead.

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Re: Speedlang VIII (May 4, 5, 6)

Post by Jampot911 » 02 May 2018 18:58

CarsonDaConlanger wrote:
02 May 2018 02:30
Sounds fun!

♫Dear Maria, count me in!♫
I would also like to take part, and it's my first time, so I'll just wing it!

Also, my girlfriend is called Maria, and I sing her that to annoy her all the time, so I will share your enthusiasm through that song.
What can I say? I like making stuff up.

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Re: Speedlang VIII (May 4, 5, 6)

Post by kiwikami » 02 May 2018 19:14

I'll take part - should have a couple of free hours this weekend.
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Re: Speedlang VIII (May 4, 5, 6)

Post by spanick » 02 May 2018 20:00

I think I’ll try to participate too. Should be able to piece together enough time over a couple days.

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Re: Speedlang VIII (May 4, 5, 6)

Post by Nachtuil » 02 May 2018 21:46

gestaltist: Go for it! I don't mind at all. :)

I am excited to see new people up for this!

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Re: Speedlang VIII (May 4, 5, 6)

Post by shimobaatar » 02 May 2018 22:44

What's stopping anyone from setting the parameters and also participating? Have there been rules against that in the past?

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Re: Speedlang VIII (May 4, 5, 6)

Post by DesEsseintes » 03 May 2018 02:11

shimobaatar wrote:
02 May 2018 22:44
What's stopping anyone from setting the parameters and also participating? Have there been rules against that in the past?
Nothing, and no.

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Re: Speedlang VIII (May 4, 5, 6)

Post by Nachtuil » 03 May 2018 03:26

Shimobaatar: You're right on that. For me personally I guess part of the fun is the spontaneity and not ruminating about it before hand but I guess no, it isn't a problem. If I run one again maybe I will contribute myself.

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Re: Speedlang VIII (May 4, 5, 6)

Post by idov » 03 May 2018 05:21

Well, I said I was going to even if only jokingly to loglorn, and I guess the last time when I participated was technically lucrative for me, so I'll try to do this one too.
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Re: Speedlang VIII (May 4, 5, 6)

Post by gestaltist » 03 May 2018 17:30

Cool, I will set the rules for the speedlang. Will probably add them later today.

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Re: Speedlang VIII (May 4, 5, 6)

Post by gestaltist » 03 May 2018 18:29

OK, I have defined the rules and I'm not sure if I'll have the time to pop by during the weekend so here it goes:

I have felt for a long time that prosody is a topic that a lot of conlangers ignore or don’t really work on, so I want to make it central to this speedlang. I don’t want to be too restrictive, however, so them’s the rules:
  • at least one prosodic element (tone, pitch, stress...) needs to fulfill an important grammatical function
  • mora-based prosody is encouraged but not required
  • there needs to be at least one morphophonological process motivated by prosody (e.g.: weight-sensitive vowel reduction, tone sandhi, etc.)
And now onto some rules not related to prosody:
  • the language should be at least moderately non-configurational (have flexible word order)
  • there should be at least 10 phonemic vowel qualities (including diphthongs and length distinction)
  • there should be at least two coronal POAs in consonants
  • there should be at least one post-velar consonant
  • there should be a romanization and it should be underspecified (i.e., there should be some phonemic distinction not marked in the romanization)
Have fun!

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