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Re: British Romance Language Collablang

Post by gokupwned5 » 07 Apr 2019 23:23

131) B
132) E
133) B

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Re: British Romance Language Collablang

Post by shimobaatar » 08 Apr 2019 01:06

131: b c
132: e
133: b

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Re: British Romance Language Collablang

Post by GoshDiggityDangit » 08 Apr 2019 02:19

131)b
132)a
133)a

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Re: British Romance Language Collablang

Post by this_is_an_account » 08 Apr 2019 08:13

131: B
132: E
133: B

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Re: British Romance Language Collablang

Post by gokupwned5 » 16 Apr 2019 16:20

The results are in!

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131) It is 1473 CE, and King Enri VI has died without an heir. There are several contenders for the Brettaniot throne. Who should be the next king?
b) Afonso V of Portugal - 2nd Cousin of Enri VI (His claim is more legitimate since he is actually descended from a previous Brettaniot monarch, Blanque II and her husband John II)

132) In what year (within this alternate timeline) should we stop this thread?
e) Present Day

133) What should happen to the sounds /ɲ ʎ/ in coda position?
b) /ɲ ʎ/ > /jn jl/

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134) Afonso V of Portugal has now become the King of Britain. Should Britain form a personal union with Portugal?
a) Yes.
b) No.
c) Other.

135) What should happen to unstressed diphthongs?
a) /Vi Vu/ > /iː uː/
b) /ei ou ai au/ > /iː uː eː oː/
c) Nothing
d) Other.

These are the sound changes that have happened so far from Vulgar Latin to Middle Brettaniot.
Spoiler:
Vulgar Latin to Proto-Brettaniot
/ɪ ʊ/ > /i o/
/skʲ/ > /ʃ/
/kkʲ kʲ gʲ/ > /t͡ʃ t͡ʃ j~d͡ʒ/
/Cs Ct/ > /jʃ jt͡ʃ/
/tʲ dʲ/ > /t͡s d͡z/
/i u e o ɛ ɔ a/ > /i u ei ou iə uə æ~iə/ | in open syllables
/p b t d k g/ > /b v d ð g ɣ/ | between vowels
/i u e o ɛ ɔ a/ > /i u ə o ə o ə/ | unstressed
/u o ou ɔ/ > /y u u o/
/j/ > /d͡ʒ/ | word-initially
/jj/ > /d͡ʒ/ | in medial position
/mn kn gn nj/ > /ɲ/
/pl tl kl gl lj/ > /ʎ/
/t d/ > /θ ð/ /_#
Proto-Brettaniot to Old Brettaniot
/ɣ/ > /j/ | after front vowels
/ɣ/ > /w/
/y/ > /i/
/i u/ > /ɪ ʊ/ | unstressed
/iə uə/ > /ɪ ʊ/
/ij uj ɪj ʊj ej oj ɛj aj/ > /i ui ei oi ei oi ei ai/
/iw uw ɪw ʊw ew ow ɛw aw/ > /iu u eu ou eu ou eu au/
/ɪ ʊ/ > /e o/
The phoneme /h/ entered Old Brettaniot through loanwords.
/ə/ > /Ø/ | word-finally
/f θ s/ > /v ð z/ | between vowels
/ui iu/ > /y/
Old Brettaniot to Middle Brettaniot
/y/ > /i/
/ɲ ʎ/ > /ɲ ʎ/, /jɲ~jn jʎ~jl/ after vowels
/ɛ/ > /ea/
/θ ð/ > /d/
/oi eu ei ou ea/ > /we jo je wo ja/
/wj jw/ > /wi ju/ | after consonants
/ai au/ > /ei ou/
The phonemes /ai au/ are reintroduced through loanwords.
/VCə/ > /VːC/
/t͡s d͡z/ > /s z/
/ɲ ʎ/ > /jn jl/ | in coda position
And here's the current phonology of Middle Brettaniot.
Spoiler:
/m n ɲ/ - <m n gn~ni>
/p b t d k g/ - <p b t d c~qu g~gu> (/k g/ are only <qu gu> before the vowels <i>, <y>, and <e>, and /k/ can be written as <c~cq~q> word-finally)
/t͡ʃ d͡ʒ/ - <ci~c gi~g> (/t͡ʃ d͡ʒ/ are only <c g> before the vowels <i>, <y>, and <e>)
/f v s z ʃ/ - <f v s~ss~ç s~z sh~sc> (/ʃ/ is <sc> before front vowels)
/r l ʎ j w/ - <r l gl~li y~i w~u> (the spelling of /ʎ/ is determined etymologically, and /j w/ <i u> except initially, finally, and between vowels)
/kw gw/ - <qu~cu gu>
/i u e ə o a/ - <i~y u e e~a o a> (the distinction between <i~y> /i/ and <e~a> /ə/ is determined etymologically)
/iː uː eː oː aː/ - <i~y u e e~a o a> (Sequences of /VːC/ are written as <VCe>)
/ei oi ai eu ou au/ - <ai~ay oi~oy ae eu~ew au~aw ao>
Voting closes next Saturday at 21:00 EDT, or next Sunday at 01:00 UTC. Results will be posted around 30 minutes after that.

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Re: British Romance Language Collablang

Post by shimobaatar » 16 Apr 2019 17:20

134: a
135: c

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Re: British Romance Language Collablang

Post by HJH » 16 Apr 2019 17:27

134: a
135: b

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Re: British Romance Language Collablang

Post by GoshDiggityDangit » 16 Apr 2019 21:06

134) a
135) b

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Re: British Romance Language Collablang

Post by Herra Ratatoskr » 17 Apr 2019 01:44

134) b
135) b

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Re: British Romance Language Collablang

Post by this_is_an_account » 17 Apr 2019 03:09

134: A
135: A

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Re: British Romance Language Collablang

Post by Artaxes » 17 Apr 2019 21:20

134: b
135: b

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Re: British Romance Language Collablang

Post by gokupwned5 » 22 Apr 2019 01:34

The results are in!

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134) Afonso V of Portugal has now become the King of Britain. Should Britain form a personal union with Portugal?
a) Yes.

135) What should happen to unstressed diphthongs?
b) /ei ou ai au/ > /iː uː eː oː/

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136) Who should John, heir to the Portuguese and Brettaniot thrones, marry?
a) Leonor de Viseu - a good friend of John
b) Margaret Stewart - Princess of Scotland
c) Joan de Francy - Princess of France
d) Mary de Burgyndy - Duchess of Burgundy
e) Other.

137) Should Portuguese loanwords enter Middle Brettaniot?
a) Yes.
b) No.
c) Other.

These are the sound changes that have happened so far from Vulgar Latin to Middle Brettaniot.
Spoiler:
Vulgar Latin to Proto-Brettaniot
/ɪ ʊ/ > /i o/
/skʲ/ > /ʃ/
/kkʲ kʲ gʲ/ > /t͡ʃ t͡ʃ j~d͡ʒ/
/Cs Ct/ > /jʃ jt͡ʃ/
/tʲ dʲ/ > /t͡s d͡z/
/i u e o ɛ ɔ a/ > /i u ei ou iə uə æ~iə/ | in open syllables
/p b t d k g/ > /b v d ð g ɣ/ | between vowels
/i u e o ɛ ɔ a/ > /i u ə o ə o ə/ | unstressed
/u o ou ɔ/ > /y u u o/
/j/ > /d͡ʒ/ | word-initially
/jj/ > /d͡ʒ/ | in medial position
/mn kn gn nj/ > /ɲ/
/pl tl kl gl lj/ > /ʎ/
/t d/ > /θ ð/ /_#
Proto-Brettaniot to Old Brettaniot
/ɣ/ > /j/ | after front vowels
/ɣ/ > /w/
/y/ > /i/
/i u/ > /ɪ ʊ/ | unstressed
/iə uə/ > /ɪ ʊ/
/ij uj ɪj ʊj ej oj ɛj aj/ > /i ui ei oi ei oi ei ai/
/iw uw ɪw ʊw ew ow ɛw aw/ > /iu u eu ou eu ou eu au/
/ɪ ʊ/ > /e o/
The phoneme /h/ entered Old Brettaniot through loanwords.
/ə/ > /Ø/ | word-finally
/f θ s/ > /v ð z/ | between vowels
/ui iu/ > /y/
Old Brettaniot to Middle Brettaniot
/y/ > /i/
/ɲ ʎ/ > /ɲ ʎ/, /jɲ~jn jʎ~jl/ after vowels
/ɛ/ > /ea/
/θ ð/ > /d/
/oi eu ei ou ea/ > /we jo je wo ja/
/wj jw/ > /wi ju/ | after consonants
/ai au/ > /ei ou/
The phonemes /ai au/ are reintroduced through loanwords.
/VCə/ > /VːC/
/t͡s d͡z/ > /s z/
/ɲ ʎ/ > /jn jl/ | in coda position
/ei ou ai au/ > /iː uː eː oː/ | unstressed
And here's the current phonology of Middle Brettaniot.
Spoiler:
/m n ɲ/ - <m n gn~ni>
/p b t d k g/ - <p b t d c~qu g~gu> (/k g/ are only <qu gu> before the vowels <i>, <y>, and <e>, and /k/ can be written as <c~cq~q> word-finally)
/t͡ʃ d͡ʒ/ - <ci~c gi~g> (/t͡ʃ d͡ʒ/ are only <c g> before the vowels <i>, <y>, and <e>)
/f v s z ʃ/ - <f v s~ss~ç s~z sh~sc> (/ʃ/ is <sc> before front vowels)
/r l ʎ j w/ - <r l gl~li y~i w~u> (the spelling of /ʎ/ is determined etymologically, and /j w/ <i u> except initially, finally, and between vowels)
/kw gw/ - <qu~cu gu>
/i u e ə o a/ - <i~y u e e~a o a> (the distinction between <i~y> /i/ and <e~a> /ə/ is determined etymologically)
/iː uː eː oː aː/ - <i~y~ai~ay u~au~aw e~ae e~a o~ao a> (Sequences of /VːC/ are written as <VCe>)
/ei oi ai eu ou au/ - <ai~ay oi~oy ae eu~ew au~aw ao>
Voting closes next Saturday at 21:00 EDT, or next Sunday at 01:00 UTC. Results will be posted around 30 minutes after that.

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Re: British Romance Language Collablang

Post by shimobaatar » 22 Apr 2019 02:14

136: a
137: a

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Re: British Romance Language Collablang

Post by GoshDiggityDangit » 22 Apr 2019 02:51

136: a
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Re: British Romance Language Collablang

Post by this_is_an_account » 22 Apr 2019 04:59

136: B
137: A

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Re: British Romance Language Collablang

Post by Herra Ratatoskr » 22 Apr 2019 05:02

136: B
137: A

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Re: British Romance Language Collablang

Post by HJH » 22 Apr 2019 13:46

136: c
137: b

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Re: British Romance Language Collablang

Post by Jackk » 22 Apr 2019 15:16

136 d
137 a
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Re: British Romance Language Collablang

Post by samsam » 23 Apr 2019 16:17

136) a
137) a

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Re: British Romance Language Collablang

Post by gokupwned5 » 29 Apr 2019 03:18

The results are in!

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136) Who should John, heir to the Portuguese and Brettaniot thrones, marry?
a) Leonor de Viseu - a good friend of John (Same wife he had in OTL)

137) Should Portuguese loanwords enter Middle Brettaniot?
a) Yes.

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138) This will be the last sound change in Middle Brettaniot. What sound change would you like to see in Middle Brettaniot?
a) /ei oi eu ou/ > /oi oi eu eu/ > /we we jo jo/ (proposed by shimobaatar)
b) /e o/ > /i u/ (unstressed) (proposed by gokupwned5)
List any proposals here.

139) Should Middle Brettaniot keep the conditional tense?
a) Yes, but it should be retained as a conditional tense
b) Yes, but it should become the new future tense.
c) No.
d) Other.

140) It is 1485 CE, and a Genoese man named Cristofor Colombu has proposed an idea on how to get to East Asia and bypass the Ottomans. He proposes that King John III give him three ships and a year's time to sail across the Atlantic to find a route to East Asia. Should John III accept?
a) Yes.
b) No.
c) Other.

These are the sound changes that have happened so far from Vulgar Latin to Middle Brettaniot.
Spoiler:
Vulgar Latin to Proto-Brettaniot
/ɪ ʊ/ > /i o/
/skʲ/ > /ʃ/
/kkʲ kʲ gʲ/ > /t͡ʃ t͡ʃ j~d͡ʒ/
/Cs Ct/ > /jʃ jt͡ʃ/
/tʲ dʲ/ > /t͡s d͡z/
/i u e o ɛ ɔ a/ > /i u ei ou iə uə æ~iə/ | in open syllables
/p b t d k g/ > /b v d ð g ɣ/ | between vowels
/i u e o ɛ ɔ a/ > /i u ə o ə o ə/ | unstressed
/u o ou ɔ/ > /y u u o/
/j/ > /d͡ʒ/ | word-initially
/jj/ > /d͡ʒ/ | in medial position
/mn kn gn nj/ > /ɲ/
/pl tl kl gl lj/ > /ʎ/
/t d/ > /θ ð/ /_#
Proto-Brettaniot to Old Brettaniot
/ɣ/ > /j/ | after front vowels
/ɣ/ > /w/
/y/ > /i/
/i u/ > /ɪ ʊ/ | unstressed
/iə uə/ > /ɪ ʊ/
/ij uj ɪj ʊj ej oj ɛj aj/ > /i ui ei oi ei oi ei ai/
/iw uw ɪw ʊw ew ow ɛw aw/ > /iu u eu ou eu ou eu au/
/ɪ ʊ/ > /e o/
The phoneme /h/ entered Old Brettaniot through loanwords.
/ə/ > /Ø/ | word-finally
/f θ s/ > /v ð z/ | between vowels
/ui iu/ > /y/
Old Brettaniot to Middle Brettaniot
/y/ > /i/
/ɲ ʎ/ > /ɲ ʎ/, /jɲ~jn jʎ~jl/ after vowels
/ɛ/ > /ea/
/θ ð/ > /d/
/oi eu ei ou ea/ > /we jo je wo ja/
/wj jw/ > /wi ju/ | after consonants
/ai au/ > /ei ou/
The phonemes /ai au/ are reintroduced through loanwords.
/VCə/ > /VːC/
/t͡s d͡z/ > /s z/
/ɲ ʎ/ > /jn jl/ | in coda position
/ei ou ai au/ > /iː uː eː oː/ | unstressed
And here's the current phonology of Middle Brettaniot.
Spoiler:
/m n ɲ/ - <m n gn~ni>
/p b t d k g/ - <p b t d c~qu g~gu> (/k g/ are only <qu gu> before the vowels <i>, <y>, and <e>, and /k/ can be written as <c~cq~q> word-finally)
/t͡ʃ d͡ʒ/ - <ci~c gi~g> (/t͡ʃ d͡ʒ/ are only <c g> before the vowels <i>, <y>, and <e>)
/f v s z ʃ/ - <f v s~ss~ç s~z sh~sc> (/ʃ/ is <sc> before front vowels)
/r l ʎ j w/ - <r l gl~li y~i w~u> (the spelling of /ʎ/ is determined etymologically, and /j w/ <i u> except initially, finally, and between vowels)
/kw gw/ - <qu~cu gu>
/i u e ə o a/ - <i~y u e e~a o a> (the distinction between <i~y> /i/ and <e~a> /ə/ is determined etymologically)
/iː uː eː oː aː/ - <i~y~ai~ay u~au~aw e~ae o~ao a> (Sequences of /VːC/ are written as <VCe>)
/ei oi ai eu ou au/ - <ai~ay oi~oy ae eu~ew au~aw ao>
Voting closes next Saturday at 21:00 EDT, or next Sunday at 01:00 UTC. Results will be posted around 30 minutes after that.
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