Birdlang wrote:Why syllabic stops? Those to me are hard to pronounce
They syllabic stop is in there to pattern with the syllabic fricatives… that's just where the diachronics led me, so to speak.
And I can't pronounce them myself, either. In fact, I'm pretty sure that true syllabic stops are impossible for any human being to pronounce (I could be wrong about that, but they're at least extremely uncommon if not unattested in natlangs)… anyway, I said this:
shimobaatar wrote:The true realization of the phoneme is probably a sonorant like /ʡ̯̩/ or /ᴙ̩/ (a syllabic epiglottal flap or syllabic epiglottal trill).
In my conversation with wintiver on the previous page of this thread. I transcribe it as a syllabic stop for my own purposes (symmetry mostly), but it's not really even an obstruent.
Birdlang wrote:and I cannot pronounce epiglottals, but my conlangs that use them can substitute for pharyngealized uvulars.
I can't pronounce them either. I don't aim to pronounce any of my conlangs, really, at least not the protolangs from my conworld's ancient history.
Funny you should mention (pharyngealized) uvulars, though. The set of (glottal) phonemes that I call "laryngeals" in Proto-Ypsilon become the epiglottals of Proto-Western-Ypsilon, but they become pharyngeals in Proto-Eastern-Ypsilon, uvulars in Proto-Continental-Ypsilon, and remain glottal in Proto-Central-Ypsilon.
As for the capital/lowercase thing, I figure I could make some substitutions and work everything out if I wanted to. Maybe <Ɔ> for the capital <ɤ> and <Ɨ> for <ɪ>, with <Ɔ̃> and <Ɨ̃> for the nasalized versions? There are other letters that don't have conventional upper case forms, but you get the idea.
But I do personally prefer the aesthetic of using all lowercase letters, as I believe we've discussed before. For me, it gives a language a little bit more of a "reconstructed protolang" feel to it, if that makes any sense.