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Re: The Landau Core Vocabulary

Post by HJH » 11 Apr 2019 22:10

Khemehekis wrote:
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You're welcome! Hope you're enjoying it!
It's really useful: very comprehensive.

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Re: The Landau Core Vocabulary

Post by CarsonDaConlanger » 12 Apr 2019 15:41

Khemehekis wrote:
08 Mar 2015 05:49
Lao Kou wrote:half-siblings? widower?
I should probably add "widower". Widowers will become nearly as common as widows as technology goes on.

Come to think of it, I should probably add "orphan" too.

Half-siblings, I'm less sure about.
I would guess that widowers would become less common as technology advanced, since less women would die in childbirth.

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Re: The Landau Core Vocabulary

Post by Khemehekis » 15 Apr 2019 05:08

HJH wrote:
11 Apr 2019 22:10
Khemehekis wrote:
07 Apr 2019 08:53
You're welcome! Hope you're enjoying it!
It's really useful: very comprehensive.
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Re: The Landau Core Vocabulary

Post by Khemehekis » 15 Apr 2019 05:09

CarsonDaConlanger wrote:
12 Apr 2019 15:41
Khemehekis wrote:
08 Mar 2015 05:49
Lao Kou wrote:half-siblings? widower?
I should probably add "widower". Widowers will become nearly as common as widows as technology goes on.

Come to think of it, I should probably add "orphan" too.

Half-siblings, I'm less sure about.
I would guess that widowers would become less common as technology advanced, since less women would die in childbirth.
This is quite likely.

However, i would imagine the gap between male longevity and female longevity to narrow, especially after life extension technology gets invented for Earth's humans.
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Re: The Landau Core Vocabulary

Post by Khemehekis » 23 Apr 2019 08:27

Today I added 120 new entries to the LCV:
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after (in pursuit of)
alternative (politics, culture)
alternative (school, education)
alternative (film, literature)
alternative (energy)
alternative (medicine)
barge
base (army ~)
bizarre
to blow out (candles, flame)
branch (of a company)
branch (of a bank)
branch (of a library)
branch (of a union)
to break down (of a vehicle)
to break down (of an engine)
to break out (of protests, violence, war)
to break out (of a fire)
to bring up (introduce a topic of discussion)
bucket
to check in (at airport)
to check in (at hotel)
to check out (at hotel)
to clean up
to come over (to someone's home)
to come over (to another place)
commerce
to cut off, to sever (with scissors)
to cut off, to sever (with knife or other strong blade)
debit (amount)
debit (entry in an account)
debit card
diagonal (in pattern or design)
to donate (money)
to donate (clothes, toys, books)
to donate (blood, sperm, organs)
donation (amount donated)
donation (of money)
donation (of clothes, toys, books)
donation (of blood, sperm, organs)
donor (of money)
donor (of blood, sperm, organs)
down (the sun is ~)
duration
duration (of a film)
encyclopedia
euro
to extract, to pull (a tooth)
to feel like (I ~ a popsicle)
fictional
fictional (character)
to get back (I never got back the skateboard Nicole borrowed)
to go on, to be happening (What is going on here?)
to go on (continue speaking)
to grow (become larger in size)
to hang out (with one's friends)
to hang out (at the mall)
to hinder (a person)
to hinder (movements, negotiations)
to hinder [X from doing Y]
horizontal
identical
impressive
to judge (don't ~ me by my clothes)
kayak
kiss
to line up (one in front of another)
to line up (side by side)
to live on (a food)
to look up
to look up (a phone number)
mainstream (politics, culture)
mainstream (school, education)
mainstream (film, literature)
to make up, to come up with (invent)
to make up (fabricate)
nature (the way a thing is)
nature (human ~)
neglect (of child, pet)
neglect (of duty)
neglect (of work)
neglect (of house)
to neglect (a child, pet)
to neglect (one's duty)
to neglect (work)
to neglect (a house)
phobia; phobic
to point out (Emma pointed out that Natalie had worn the same dress yesterday)
to point out (an error)
to point out (a sign or tourist attraction)
publisher (company)
publisher (newspaper owner)
to put away (into storage)
to run over
to shrink
to shrink (of clothes)
to sign up for (work)
to sign up for (a class)
to sign up for (a club, a team)
to stand up for (a person)
to stand up for (one's rights)
to stay out
to stay up
to substitute X for Y
tack
tendency (inclination)
at a time (one ~)
trophy
to try on
to try out (Try it out!)
to turn down
to turn down (music)
to turn up
to turn up (music)
umpire, referee
unemployed
up (the sun is ~)
up to (What are you ~?)
vertical
waffle
While we're on the topic of LCV revisions and updates, I have a question for those of you who have a copy. Are there any important concepts that you've noticed missing from my list . . . that I don't have, but you think I should?
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Re: The Landau Core Vocabulary

Post by eldin raigmore » 24 Apr 2019 00:25

Khemehekis wrote:
08 Mar 2015 05:49
Lao Kou wrote:half-siblings? widower?
I should probably add "widower". Widowers will become nearly as common as widows as technology goes on.
Come to think of it, I should probably add "orphan" too.
Half-siblings, I'm less sure about.
In olden times giving birth was 2.5 times as dangerous as going into battle.
Widowers were quite common.

Re-marriage was also quite common.
A widower who was also a father would likely re-marry and have more children by the next wife.
Or a father with one living wife might also marry another wife and have children by her.
So agnate half-siblings were pretty common.

Or a widow who was also a mother might remarry and have more children by the second husband.
So enate or uterine half-siblings were pretty common too.

And a widower who was a father might marry a widow who was a mother. That happened in Cinderella, for instance. So step-siblings were also quite common.
I suppose a father whose first wife was still living with him, might marry a widowed mother; maybe because she was his brother’s widow, or because of something like what happened to the Mormons in the 19th century.

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Whether you want these relationships in the “core” vocabulary, may depend on something else than how common they are. But if there’s an obstacle, lack of commonness isn’t it.

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Re: The Landau Core Vocabulary

Post by Khemehekis » 24 Apr 2019 03:21

Oh, steprelationships are definitely part of the core vocabulary of many human languages. I do have them on my list . . . as you pointed out here. Like the Stiefmutter and Stiefschwester from Cinderella. (IIRC, step- and Stief- come from the Germanic word for death, and are related to German sterben and English starve -- of course, the etymology will likely be different in your or my conlang.)

As for "half-brother" and "half-sister", the words appear in my German, French, Spanish, Italian, Russian, Arabic, and Japanese dictionaries, but not in my Portuguese, Chinese, Korean, or Vietnamese dictionaries. Of the seven languages for which I have them, only my Russian dictionary mentions a distinction: different mother vs. different father, for both "half-sister" and "half-brother". Surprisingly, my Japanese dictionary does not mention an older/younger distinction, and the terms are missing from both my Korean and Vietnamese dictionaries, which I think might make interesting distinctions. And I'm not sure if brother-of-a-brother-versus-brother-of-a-sister languages would distinguish "half-brother (of a half-sister)" from "half-brother (of a half-brother)".

EDIT: I just checked the dictionaries at www.collinsdictionary.com . Chinese makes the same distinction as Russian. The Portuguese dictionary at that website, offly enough, has "half-brother", but no entry for "half-sister".
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Re: The Landau Core Vocabulary

Post by eldin raigmore » 24 Apr 2019 09:13

There are languages which, instead of having one term for a full sister (sharing both parents) and another for a half-sister (sharing just one parent, don’t care which),
have one term for a daughter of your father (whether or not she shared your mother) and a different term for an enate or uterine half-sister.
Others have one term for a daughter of your mother (whether or not she also shared your father) and a different term for an agnate half-sister.

Some languages, instead of distinguishing between a male sibling (brother) and a female sibling (sister), distinguish between a same-sex sibling and an opposite-sex sibling.

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Do any of the languages you’re looking at do any of those things?

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Re: The Landau Core Vocabulary

Post by Khemehekis » 24 Apr 2019 09:26

eldin raigmore wrote:
24 Apr 2019 09:13
There are languages which, instead of having one term for a full sister and another for a half-sister,
have one term for a daughter of your father (whether or not she shared your mother) and a different term for an enate or uterine half-sister.
Others have one term for a daughter of your mother (whether or not she also shared your father) and a different term for an agnate half-sister.

Some languages, instead of distinguishing between a male sibling (brother) and a female sibling (sister), distinguish between a same-sex sibling and an opposite-sex sibling.

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Do any of the languages you’re looking at do any of those things?
None of the 12 languages (including English) that I'm looking at do that, but I am familiar with the same-sex sibling vs. opposite-sex sibling distinction. Some indigenous Latin American languages distinguish "sister (of a sister)" from "sister (of a brother)".

In Maori, the sister of a brother is tuahine, and the brother of a sister is tungāne. The older brother of a brother and the older sister of a sister are both tuakana. The younger brother of a brother and the younger sister of a sister are both teina or taina.
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Re: The Landau Core Vocabulary

Post by Khemehekis » 26 Apr 2019 04:17

I've wanted to add "to launch (a rocket)" ever since I've added the other kinds of launching a month or two ago. However, I can't fit it into any of my existing categories.

So I'm considering adding a new category for space travel. The only problem is that I can't think of enough potential words to give it its own category. Besides "to launch", I can think of "to land (of a spacecraft)", "to take off, to blast off", "countdown", and "shuttle". I don't think "to spacewalk" is core enough to belong in the LCV. Can all of you think of any other words for Space Travel?

(I already have "astronaut" under people.)
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Re: The Landau Core Vocabulary

Post by eldin raigmore » 28 Apr 2019 00:13

Will “vast” and “waste” be etymologically related in your vocabulary?
How about “waist” and “vest”?

I’m betting “waist” and “coat” will be core vocabulary but “waistcoat” and “weskit” and “vest” won’t be.
How about “invest”, “divest”, “vestige”, “devastate”?

Will “waste”(land) in the sense of “uninhabitable place” and “waste”(land) in the sense of “place no-one’s using yet” be homonyms? Maybe near-synonyms?

Will the phrase “vast wasteland” be a redundancy?

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Re: The Landau Core Vocabulary

Post by Khemehekis » 01 May 2019 04:56

Yačay256 wrote:
20 Aug 2010 17:48
I forgot to mention some things that you may wish to consider in your Landau core vocabulay:

In many parts of New Guinea, body parts and numbers are very closely related (by means of the extended body part system); thus, many body parts and numbers could overlap.

If I do remember correctly, on wiki it says that body parts and function words partially overlap by means of relational nouns in Mesoamerica in particular.

These are just some things you may wish to consider, but I think your list is a great piece of work.
eldin raigmore wrote:
28 Apr 2019 00:13
Will “vast” and “waste” be etymologically related in your vocabulary?
How about “waist” and “vest”?

I’m betting “waist” and “coat” will be core vocabulary but “waistcoat” and “weskit” and “vest” won’t be.
How about “invest”, “divest”, “vestige”, “devastate”?

Will “waste”(land) in the sense of “uninhabitable place” and “waste”(land) in the sense of “place no-one’s using yet” be homonyms? Maybe near-synonyms?

Will the phrase “vast wasteland” be a redundancy?
The LCV says nothing about which concepts are etymologically related.

"Waist" and "coat" are both Part IV words. "Vest" is core vocabulary too, but is part of Part V instead of Part IV.

"To invest" is core vocabulary, under the category Money in Part IV.

The LCV only deals with (a) which words to include, (b) what distinctions languages can make with the concepts, and (c) what category each concept goes under.

So the question isn't "Should 'vast' be related to 'wasteland'?", but "Which category would 'wasteland' go under?" Places, probably.
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Re: The Landau Core Vocabulary

Post by Khemehekis » 01 May 2019 05:03

Back to space travel.

The unwritten minimum number of words for a category in the LCV seems to be 13 -- the number of entries under Simple Life-forms, and the number of entries under Mail.

I have come up with new 10 items I could place under Space Travel (and that are core, unlike "to spacewalk" or "space junk"): countdown, to launch (rocket), launching pad, to orbit, rover, shuttle, spaceflight, space station, spacesuit, and to take off/to blast off.

In addition, I've found three items that are already on the list that could be moved to a new Space Travel category: to land (of a spacecraft), rocket, and satellite (artificial).

These words aren't quite common enough to be a Part IV category; much like Sea Travel and Air Travel, they'd go in Part V.

Does anyone have any more suggestions before I do the checking-against-dictionaries for the next batch of words?

Meanwhile, I'm considering adding "hedgehog" to the More Animals section in Part V. "Hedgehog" appears in the First Thousand Words books, and is an everyday word in many Eurasian languages. Many hedgehogs exist in the popular culture, from Beatrix Potter's Mrs. Tiggy-winkle to Hepzibah the Hedgehog on the Hebrew Sesame Street to the video game character Sonic the Hedgehog. Not as often used in American English as the majority of animal words already on the list, but the LCV was never supposed to be U.S.-centric.

EDIT: And I just remembered "telescope". I've been considering adding that word for a while, but could never find a category to put it in.
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Re: The Landau Core Vocabulary

Post by Khemehekis » 03 May 2019 09:10

NEW WORDS:

to blast off, to take off
to carry on, to go on (give me the strength to ~)
to continue, to go on
to continue, to go on (with an activity)
to continue, to go on (of rain)
to continue, to go on (of fighting)
to continue, to go on (of negotiations)
to go on (of time, the night)
to go on (the list goes on)
countdown
half-sister (older, of a half-sister, same mother)
half-sister (older, of a half-sister, same father)
half-sister (older, of a half-brother, same mother)
half-sister (older, of a half-brother, same father)
half-sister (younger, of a half-sister, same mother)
half-sister (younger, of a half-sister, same father)
half-sister (younger, of a half-brother, same mother)
half-sister (younger, of a half-brother, same father)
half-brother (older, of a half-sister, same mother)
half-brother (older, of a half-sister, same father)
half-brother (older, of a half-brother, same mother)
half-brother (older, of a half-brother, same father)
half-brother (younger, of a half-sister, same mother)
half-brother (younger, of a half-sister, same father)
half-brother (younger, of a half-brother, same mother)
half-brother (younger, of a half-brother, same father)
hedgehog
injustice (state of being unjust)
injustice (an ~)
keyboard (for computer)
to launch (rocket)
launching pad
to orbit
to please (make happy)
to please (hard to ~)
rover
shuttle
spaceflight
space station
spacesuit
telescope
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Re: The Landau Core Vocabulary

Post by Khemehekis » 05 May 2019 09:50

Newest words added to the LCV:
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achievement (the students at Weber High are known for their academic ~)
achievement (Joan has been praised for her ~s)
achievement (it was quite an ~)
agenda (for a meeting)
agenda (Mr. Wright has a conservative ~)
announcer
antibiotic
assembly (at school)
audition (for movie actor)
audition (for theatrical actor)
audition (for singer)
audition (for dancer)
audition (for instrumentalist)
to audition (movie actor)
to audition (theatrical actor)
to audition (singer)
to audition (dancer)
to audition (instrumentalist)
benevolent
benevolent (~ dictatorship)
briefly
circuit
coincidence (a strange ~)
compliment
to compliment
conscience
conscience (of a pacifist, etc.)
to convert (intransitive)
to convert (transitive)
corrupt (dishonest)
corrupt (bribable)
court (of a monarch)
criticism (disapproval)
criticism (one ~ of this theory is that . . .)
criticism (of literature, film, music)
to crown
decoration (on cake, for party)
deficit
devotion (to friend, family)
devotion (to cause, party, leader)
devotion (to job)
devotion (to religion)
discrimination
distinction (difference)
distinction (make a ~)
elsewhere
elsewhere (to elsewhere)
from elsewhere
establishment (place of business)
Establishment, the system
Establishment (ruling class)
execution
to exploit (a worker)
to exploit (kids)
faith, trust
forecast (of weather)
forecast (economic)
format
format (of software, recording)
format (of radio station)
frankly
gluten
to govern
harmful
harmful (plant)
harmful, hurtful (~ words)
hormone
humanity, Man, mankind
inspector (weapons ~)
inspector (of factory, bar)
inspector (police ~)
invitation
lobby
marble
mentor
nap
nap (after lunch)
to navigate, to steer (ship)
to navigate, to steer (aircraft)
to navigate, to steer (spacecraft)
neutral (country, position)
neutral (voice, language, look)
neutral (in chemistry or electricity)
obesity; obese
obstacle (physical)
obstacle (to reaching a goal)
painter (artist)
perception (with senses)
perception (of different, importance, facts, someone's character)
pledge (promise)
pledge (donation)
to pledge
to pledge (money)
priority
probe
progressive
provider (healthcare ~)
provider (for Internet service)
racial
radar
retirement home
soy
to steer
stimulating (mentally ~)
stimulating (conversation)
stimulating (atmosphere, environment)
stimulating (shower, exercise)
to take advantage of (positive, a thing)
to take advantage of (negative, a thing)
to take advantage of (negative, a person)
to testify (bear witness)
to testify (declare under oath)
theft (serious)
theft (petty)
throne (physical seat)
throne (position of monarch)
trauma / traumatized / traumatic / – / to traumatize
to vacuum (the room)
to vacuum (the carpet)
versus, vs. (up against, as in sports)
versus, v. (in a legal case)
versus, vs., as opposed to
I calculated that if you were to conlang using the entire Landau list, with approximately the same degree of hypernymy, polysemy, and synonymy as English, your conlang would end up with about 6,500 lemmata in its dictionary.
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Re: The Landau Core Vocabulary

Post by Khemehekis » 28 May 2019 00:25

Khemehekis wrote:
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Ossicone wrote: trick (prostitution) - lol. active entertainment :roll:
You know, I was considering a "Sex" category, but all the words that would go there find neatly under other classes.
Well, I finally did it.

I added a SEX category.

I was never completely comfortable with having "to masturbate" under Bodily Functions, nor with having "adultery" under Crime.

My new category fits neatly between Medicine and Life, Philosophy, Religion.

Words under Sex (Part IV):
Spoiler:
sex
sexuality
to have sex, to sleep with, to make love, to copulate, to fornicate, to screw, to do it
to menstruate, to have one’s period
to masturbate
to ejaculate
vagina
penis
testicle
egg (as reproductive device)*
lust
adultery
to cheat (on)
to rape
rape
sexual harassment
sexual orientation
straight, heterosexual
lesbian
gay
bisexual
sexy
pornography, porn
Words under More Sex (Part V):
Spoiler:
pubic hair
clitoris
hymen
cervix
ovary
scrotum
foreskin
prostate gland
womb, uterus
placenta
umbilical cord
semen
sperm (single cell)
sperm (mass)
tampon
sanitary towel, pad
birth control
birth control, contraception (methods)
condom
incest
to molest
asexual
bordello, brothel
sexually transmitted disease, STD
gonorrhea
herpes
syphilis
to castrate
to circumcise
bondage
fetish
orgy
orgasm
Bonus points to the long-time users of the LCV who can spot the brand-new words on the above lists.
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Re: The Landau Core Vocabulary

Post by Khemehekis » 28 May 2019 00:57

Also, the Basic 200 list has been retweaked. It now reads:

left (opposite of right)
right (opposite of left)
good (in quality)
bad (in quality)
white
black
short (opposite of long)
long
wide
thin
thick
small
big
round
heavy
cold (water)
warm (water)
hot (water)
low (in altitude)
high (in altitude)
deep (vertically)
dry
wet
soft
hard
slow
fast
new
old (opposite of new)
straight
top (of mountain, hill)
bottom (of mountain, hill)
front (of house)
back (of house)
to play (a game)
to meet (for the first time)
to think (cogitate)
to know (information)
to know (a person)
to love (romantically, eros)
to love (as a friend)
to speak, to talk
to say
to ask (a question)
to thank
to sing
to build (construct)
to take (pick up and carry)
to give
to pull
to push
to touch
to blow (breathe out)
to throw
to break (glass, plate)
to cut (with knife)
to dig
to sit, to be sitting
to stand, to be standing
to lie (on back)
to fall
to cry
to laugh
to close (one’s eyes)
to open (one’s eyes)
to breathe
to eat (of people)
to drink
to sleep
to see (with the eyes)
to hear
to feel (with the sense of touch)
smooth (of surface)
rough (of surface)
to wash (body parts)
to go (on foot)
to come (towards third party)
to turn (change direction)
to climb (a tree)
to climb (a mountain, hill)
to dance
to fly
to run
to swim
to walk
to bite (of mammal)
to hurt (injure)
to kick
to kill (person)
to scratch (skin)
to fight (physically, intransitive)
world
sun
star
moon
sky
wind
rain
cloud
water (cold, moving)
water (hot, moving)
water (cold, not moving)
water (hot, not moving)
ice
air
light (natural)
fire
earth (ground, dirt)
wood
dust
rock, stone
salt
sand
soil, dirt
mountain
sea (ocean)
river (flowing into the sea)
river (flowing into another river)
lake
to flow (move in a stream)
morning (6:00 a.m. to 10:00 a.m.)
morning (10:00 a.m. to noon)
day, daytime
evening
night
to freeze (transitive)
to burn (transitive)
food (I need ~ and water)
to cook
meat
fruit (as food)
home, house
music
wall (of a building)
clothes
leaf (on plant)
leaf (fallen off)
seed (to be planted)
seed (inside apple, watermelon, etc.)
stick
wing (of vertebrate)
body
hair (mass, on head)
head
face
eye
nose
mouth
tooth
tongue
ear
neck
arm
hand
finger
nail
knee
foot
skin (as an organ)
heart
blood
tear
egg (as reproductive device)
life (experience of living)
to live (be alive)
mind (center of thoughts and emotions)
to grow (intransitive)
to die (of a person)
happy
sad
afraid
angry
plant
flower
tree
mother
father
older sister (of a sister)
older sister (of a brother)
younger sister (of a sister)
younger sister (of a brother)
older brother (of a sister)
older brother (of a brother)
younger brother (of a sister)
younger brother (of a brother)
child (reciprocal of parent)
daughter (of a mother)
daughter (of a father)
son (of a mother)
son (of a father)
person/people
baby
child (prepubescent person)
girl (female child)
boy (male child)
girl (young woman)
boy (young man)
woman
man (as distinguished from woman)
friend
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Re: The Landau Core Vocabulary

Post by eldin raigmore » 01 Jun 2019 18:33

Khemehekis wrote:
03 May 2019 09:10
NEW WORDS:
....
half-sister (older, of a half-sister, same mother)
half-sister (older, of a half-sister, same father)
half-sister (older, of a half-brother, same mother)
half-sister (older, of a half-brother, same father)
half-sister (younger, of a half-sister, same mother)
half-sister (younger, of a half-sister, same father)
half-sister (younger, of a half-brother, same mother)
half-sister (younger, of a half-brother, same father)
half-brother (older, of a half-sister, same mother)
half-brother (older, of a half-sister, same father)
half-brother (older, of a half-brother, same mother)
half-brother (older, of a half-brother, same father)
half-brother (younger, of a half-sister, same mother)
half-brother (younger, of a half-sister, same father)
half-brother (younger, of a half-brother, same mother)
half-brother (younger, of a half-brother, same father)
....
In societies with sororal polygyny, it isn’t rare for two people whose mothers are sisters, to share the same father.
These are less closely related than full-siblings, but more closely related than half-siblings, or double-cousins.
Would your core vocabulary need a word or words for such relationships?

In societies with fraternal polyandry, it isn’t rare for two people whose fathers are brothers, to share the same mother.
These are less closely related than full-siblings, but more closely related than half-siblings, or double-cousins.
Would your core vocabulary need a word or words for such relationships?

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Re: The Landau Core Vocabulary

Post by Khemehekis » 01 Aug 2019 08:07

eldin raigmore wrote:
01 Jun 2019 18:33
Khemehekis wrote:
03 May 2019 09:10
NEW WORDS:
....
half-sister (older, of a half-sister, same mother)
half-sister (older, of a half-sister, same father)
half-sister (older, of a half-brother, same mother)
half-sister (older, of a half-brother, same father)
half-sister (younger, of a half-sister, same mother)
half-sister (younger, of a half-sister, same father)
half-sister (younger, of a half-brother, same mother)
half-sister (younger, of a half-brother, same father)
half-brother (older, of a half-sister, same mother)
half-brother (older, of a half-sister, same father)
half-brother (older, of a half-brother, same mother)
half-brother (older, of a half-brother, same father)
half-brother (younger, of a half-sister, same mother)
half-brother (younger, of a half-sister, same father)
half-brother (younger, of a half-brother, same mother)
half-brother (younger, of a half-brother, same father)
....
In societies with sororal polygyny, it isn’t rare for two people whose mothers are sisters, to share the same father.
These are less closely related than full-siblings, but more closely related than half-siblings, or double-cousins.
Would your core vocabulary need a word or words for such relationships?

In societies with fraternal polyandry, it isn’t rare for two people whose fathers are brothers, to share the same mother.
These are less closely related than full-siblings, but more closely related than half-siblings, or double-cousins.
Would your core vocabulary need a word or words for such relationships?
I don't plan on adding such words. I don't even have "co-wide" and "co-husband".



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Re: The Landau Core Vocabulary

Post by Tanni » 01 Aug 2019 09:37

Khemehekis wrote:
28 May 2019 00:57
Also, the Basic 200 list has been retweaked.
What is your definition of "basic" here?
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