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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Lambuzhao » 21 Aug 2014 14:55

Fonts of Connspiration:
[tick] Morning Constitutional
[tick] Cooking
[tick] making pishy
[tick] Showering
[tick] dropping the deuce
[tick] Listening to tunes

Wow - Ahzoh. Do you hear or speak :con: words in your dreams? Or does something in your dreams (i.e. visual, kinesthetic, otherwise nonverbal) inspire you to get cracking with the Connominalbildung when you wake up? :wat:

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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Thrice Xandvii » 21 Aug 2014 18:53

Thanks to the brilliant assistance (and probably patience) of Click, I have crafted my first word in Zæslajé... which will likely have it's name changed as a result.... again.

The word is from the Latin for "cave" plus the -er ending: spēluncatōrem → isλętæλa! (Adding an /a/ at the end that wouldn't have been there otherwise to correct for syllable structure) The inspiration for the choice of words was in that the word Cherokee is thought to derive from a word meaning "cave-dweller," so I thought it fitting to coin my first word after the origin of the name for this language's inspiration.

Written in the conlang's script, that'd be:

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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Ear of the Sphinx » 21 Aug 2014 20:32

Wow, another Georgian-Armenian-Tengwar-like conscript? [:P]
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by shimobaatar » 22 Aug 2014 01:19

XXXVII wrote:Thanks to the brilliant assistance (and probably patience) of Click, I have crafted my first word in Zæslajé... which will likely have it's name changed as a result.... again.

The word is from the Latin for "cave" plus the -er ending: spēluncatōrem → isλétæλa! (Adding an /a/ at the end that wouldn't have been there otherwise to correct for syllable structure) The inspiration for the choice of words was in that the word Cherokee is thought to derive from a word meaning "cave-dweller," so I thought it fitting to coin my first word after the origin of the name for this language's inspiration.

Written in the conlang's script, that'd be:

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So it's a romlang? Or did I misunderstand? Either way, it looks cool.

And I for one like the look of the script.

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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by shimobaatar » 22 Aug 2014 01:22

Lao Kou wrote:
XXXVII wrote:I for one find it affirming that I'm not the only person who seems to come up with good ideas in the shower, or while dropping a deuce.
Ah, the shower! A veritable shrine of inspirations and new connections! Less so the other ablutions.
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Most of my best ideas for conlangs or unrelated fiction writing come to me while I'm in the shower. As for the less clean acts mentioned above… not at all, in my personal experience.

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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Thrice Xandvii » 22 Aug 2014 07:16

Ear of the Sphinx wrote:Wow, another Georgian-Armenian-Tengwar-like conscript? [:P]
Tengwar!? You take that back! [:P] As for the others, well, it is distincly Georgian in shape, which I freely admit. To further odderize things, it's actually based on the Cherokee Syllabary (sorta)!
shimobaatar wrote:So it's a romlang? Or did I misunderstand? Either way, it looks cool.

And I for one like the look of the script.
Indeed, Isλętæλa is a romlang. Albeit a very odd one, methinks. It takes Latin words and mutates them to fit an approximation of the Cherokee phonology. Fun stuff, if I do say so myself. (And I do.)

Also, thanks! [:D]
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by shimobaatar » 23 Aug 2014 00:18

XXXVII wrote:Indeed, Isλętæλa is a romlang. Albeit a very odd one, methinks. It takes Latin words and mutates them to fit an approximation of the Cherokee phonology. Fun stuff, if I do say so myself. (And I do.)
Fun stuff indeed! How exactly do you pronounce Isλętæλa? And I hope we get to see the sound changes one day.

As for the script, it reminds me of the Cherokee syllabary for some reason. It's what you intended, but I say "for some reason" because I have no idea what part of it in particular reminds me of the syllabary.

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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Ahzoh » 23 Aug 2014 02:12

I decided to make the word for "language" as "ʾīšaddū" [ʔiçadːu], thus "ʾĪšaddū Yat-Vṛḵaẕīkam".

I'm not very good with stress near geminate consonants.
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by quadrilabial » 23 Aug 2014 03:08

I worked on a proof of concept for some phonological rules that insert epenthetic vowels/syllabic timing slots into a language analyzed as having only consonant phonemes. I'm using the Sound Change Applier 2 on zompist.com, which is great because it applies all rules consistently without any thought on my part, but has the downside that I'm not really sure why some but not all word-final aspirated stops are missing the epenthetic schwa that's supposed to follow, or why some of the pharyngeal glides that I'm expecting to syllabify to /a/ aren't. It might be an ordering problem? I'll have to fiddle with it more later.
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quadrilabial wrote:I worked on a proof of concept for some phonological rules that insert epenthetic vowels/syllabic timing slots into a language analyzed as having only consonant phonemes. I'm using the Sound Change Applier 2 on zompist.com, which is great because it applies all rules consistently without any thought on my part, but has the downside that I'm not really sure why some but not all word-final aspirated stops are missing the epenthetic schwa that's supposed to follow, or why some of the pharyngeal glides that I'm expecting to syllabify to /a/ aren't. It might be an ordering problem? I'll have to fiddle with it more later.
That sounds really cool!

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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by quadrilabial » 23 Aug 2014 04:03

shimobaatar wrote:That sounds really cool!
Thanks! It gets less cool the closer you look at the details- it's kind of kludgey, actually. The rules as they stand now begin by, essentially, syllabifying all sonorants (many of which are later desyllabified), which is logically equivalent to 'all sonorants are underlyingly syllabic', which isn't the same as 'all of the phonemes are consonants (implicitly, non-syllabic)' at all. But the more I work on it the neater it'll get, I think. : )
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Thrice Xandvii » 23 Aug 2014 04:33

shimobaatar wrote:Fun stuff indeed! How exactly do you pronounce Isλętæλa? And I hope we get to see the sound changes one day.

As for the script, it reminds me of the Cherokee syllabary for some reason. It's what you intended, but I say "for some reason" because I have no idea what part of it in particular reminds me of the syllabary.
Like this: /is.ɬɛ̃.tɑɪ̯.ɬɑ/.

Well, each character was inspired, to a greater or lesser degree, by a character from Tsalagi. Most where chosen due to phonological similarity between the syllables in my syllabary and ones in Tsalagi. However, I wanted to minimize the occurrence of similar characters, and also ones I didn't like aesthetically, so some are markedly different in my script.

For the language name, these are the characters that were chosen as inspiration (along with a transliteration, which may be off since I am not a scholar of Cherokee):
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* <v> represents a nasalized schwa in Tsalagi, by the way...
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Xing » 23 Aug 2014 11:37

I've decided that the antipassive and causative prefixes in Gaku shall no longer be productive. Word that have them will remain in the language as fixed lexical entries, but no new words will be formed. A simple intransitive verb can be used transitively with a causative meaning. As for the antipassive, there will be a sharper distinction between transitive and intransitive verbs. If one has no particular patient in mind, one might use a dummy object of some kind.

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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Ahzoh » 24 Aug 2014 13:26

As I was laying on my Dad's futon, I realized how considerably easier it was to produce uvularized consonants.
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

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Futons help?
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Post by Dezinaa » 24 Aug 2014 15:59

I've decided to 'revive' Nyui. I did a phoneme frequency test (i.e., I did ctrl+f for every grapheme), and I'm going to start making more words with the less common phonemes. I might also revise the grammar a little.

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Post by DesEsseintes » 24 Aug 2014 16:18

XXXVII wrote:Futons help?
Yep. The only reason there is a uvular nasal in Japanese phonology is that the speakers sleep on futons. :mrgreen:

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Post by shimobaatar » 24 Aug 2014 21:32

DesEsseintes wrote:
XXXVII wrote:Futons help?
Yep. The only reason there is a uvular nasal in Japanese phonology is that the speakers sleep on futons. :mrgreen:
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Here is a list of derivational patterns:
Nouns:
ʾīCīnCaC = measure noun
satCūCaC / satCōCC- = method noun
ʾaCCūhaC / ʾahīCCaC- = status noun
CīqaCūC / CīqūCC- = practice noun
maCCīCī / mīCCūC- = object noun
ʾīCCīCar / ʾīCCūCr- = patient noun
CaCkaC / CaCīkC- = agent noun
CarīCeC / CarūCC- = locative noun
nūCC2aC2īC = collective noun (triliteral)
naCC2VC2 = collective noun (biliteral)
ʾūtaCCeC / ʾūtūCCeC- = tool noun
mīrCūCaC / mīrCaCC- = result noun
C(ī)CaCīt / CūCaCt- = product noun

Adjectives:
ʾīdCaCaC / ʾīdCūCCī - = characteristic adjective (triliteral)
CaẏyVC / ʾīCVyīC = characteristic adjective (biliteral)
CīCraCīr / CūCarCīya = comparative/superlative adjective

Also, my current number of root is 166:
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√ʾh - related to fire, war
√ʾhb - to take hostage
√ʾhk - to burn
√ʾhr - to cook
√ʾdh - to pillage

√ʾl - related to seeing, sight
√ʾbl - to be blind
√ʾlm - to watch
√ʾlp - to hallucinate
√ʾjl - to trust
√ḥʾl - to see

√ḵl - related to roundness of shape
√ḵlk - to be round
√ḵlj - to knead (dough)
√ḵlr - to fry (sth. pancake-like)
√ḵml - to circle (in the air)
√yḵl - to smooth, erode, wear down

√ḵn - related to stabbing, piercing
√ḵhn - to drill (a hole)
√ḵsn - to prey
√ḵnḵ - stab, pierce
√ḵnv - to kill, slaughter (intensive)
√ḵnš - (vulgar) to have sex
√ḵnq - to give an evil eye/piercing gaze
√ḵrn - to put up a sign/lay down fence
√ḵšn - to bleed
√mḵn - to peck
√šḵn - to interrogate

√hr - related to sacredness, purity
√qhr - to throw sand (at someone)
√hrd - to purify
√hrm - to bless
√shr - to hallow

√dẕ - separation, isolation
√dgẕ - to shrink
√dẕd - to cut
√dẕl - to fear
√dẕm - to break
√dẕr - to cast out
√dpẕ - to be calm

√dn - heaviness, weighing down
√dbn - to be heavy
√dẕn - to carry
√dnm - to drag
√dnj - to crush
√drn - to sleep
√ḥdn - to burden

√bd - related to reading, studying
√bdn - to archive
√bdš - to read
√bld - to analyze
√sbd - to study, research (intensive)
√rbd - to collaborate (with someone)

√bl - related to determination, a goal
√bhl - to punish, discipline
√bdl - to be ambitious
√bkl - to be obsessed (with something)
√blḵ - to fail
√blj - to quit
√jbl - to be aimless, wandering
√šbl - to grow
√blb - to try, attempt

√sd - related to love, affection, joy
√sdm - to be affectionate
√sld - to love

√ẕn - related to decisions, choices
√bẕn - to be free
√ẕln - to judge
√ẕnj - to think
√ẕnf - to choose
√ẕqn - to act
√nẕn - to reason

√kẕ - related to stealth, silence
√kẕk - to sneak
√kẕm - to die
√kẕr - to be quiet
√kẕq - to be still
√klẕ - to be dark

√kf - related to exchange of goods
√kʾf - to count
√kdf - to sell
√ḍkf - to barter
√kfn - to trade
√kfš - to buy, purchase

√ld - related to protecting, guarding
√ʾld - to guard
√qld - to store
√wld - to expose/weaken

√ḷm - related to motion on a path
√gḷm - to plan
√ḷbm - to commute
√mḷm - to travel by caravan

√mn - related to writing, recording
√mbn - to mark
√mẕn - to measure
√mnḵ - to remember
√mnḏ - to record
√mnš - to write
√ṗmn - to make note of

√mt - related to motion over a surface
√vmt - to shed (tears)
√ḵmt - to crawl
√mʾt - to drive
√mht - to go
√mgt - to move
√mnt - to run
√mft - to blink
√mtb - to depart
√mtk - to approach
√mčt - to follow
√mṉt - to flow
√ṗmt - to walk
√jmt - to escape

√mḥ - related to unifying, becoming one
√mlḥ - to become allies/friends
√mtḥ - to unite
√mḥb - to agree
√mḥr - to amalgamate
√mḥf - to get married
√rmḥ - to mix

√nb - related to kindness, pleasing, wellness
√mnb - to be fair, beautiful
√nbḵ - to help
√nbd - to please
√njb - to plead
√nqb - to be good

√nš - related to possession, gathering
√vnš - to bear
√ynš - to wield
√gnš - to harvest
√ntš - to have
√npš - to possess
√nšḵ - to want
√nšf - to gather, hoard (intensive)
√nšy - to be sated, be satisfied
√nḥš - to get
√nqš - to be in need of

√ǧt - related to motion through medium
√ʾǧt - to sail
√dǧt - to fly
√ǧḵt - to float
√ǧtr - to swim
√šǧt - to fall

√ǧm - related to describing, naming
√sǧm - to summarize
√yǧm - to narrate, tell
√ǧlm - to describe
√ǧmt - to name

√pd - related to devotion, giving-up, kindness
√pyd - to sacrifice
√pdč - to worship
√psd - to follow
√špd - to bow


√pl - related to giving, sharing
√plḵ - to sow (seeds)
√plm - to steal
√ptl - to allow
√pḫl - to take
√pṟl - to give

√ṗb - related to sound, hearing
√ṗnb - to perceive
√ṗtb - to hear

√fd- related to guiding, leading
√fld - to lead
√šfd - to guide, light (the way)

√šd - related to speaking, communication
√mšd - to command
√šḵd - to warn
√šdd - to speak
√šdk - to boast
√šrd - to assure
√šhd - to pronounce, produce (sound)

√šb - related to motion of a "mass/aggregate"
√ḅšb - to mobilize (an army)
√mšb - to invade (a country)
√šhb - to sweep away, carry along
√šbj - to drive (a herd)
√šlb - to flood
√šwb - to migrate

√šk - related to anger, harm, damage
√ʾšk - to anger
√šlk - to destroy
√pšk - to harm

√šm - related to structure, supporting
√jmš - to construct (abstract)
√šdm - to hold
√šlm - to balance
√šṉm - to build (physical)
√šmr - to know
√šmš - to support
√tšm - to divorce
√šḵm - to remain (in a state of)

√šr - related to corruption, desecration, malice
√gšr - to corrupt
√ṗšr - to curse
√švr - to antagonize
√škr - to hate
√šrl - to spoil
√šrj - to hollow out
√šfr - to desecrate

√ḥv - related to greeting, introducing
√ḥtv - to introduce
√sḥv - to salute

√ḥl - related to bending, arching, leaning
√ḥlj - to lean
√ḥlt - to flatten (something)
√ḥql - to bend
√mḥl - to sit

√ql - related to sensing, touching, taste
√qdl - to suffer
√qlg - to eat, gorge (intensive)
√qlm - to feel
√qql - to experience

√ṉr - relate to lifting, strength
√ṉrb - to be strong
√ṉrm - to lift
The number of roots I have tried to post is enough to crash my phone...
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by eldin raigmore » 25 Aug 2014 18:02

Oh, heck, Ahzoh, you're faster than me. I'm jealous.

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