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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Ahzoh » 25 Sep 2014 13:32

Well then I guess "cursive hebrew" isn't really cursive either, considering it too doesn't have connecting lines.
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by eldin raigmore » 25 Sep 2014 15:51

Ahzoh wrote:Well then I guess "cursive hebrew" isn't really cursive either, considering it too doesn't have connecting lines.
To me, it looks like it does have a few joined letter-sequences, but it looks like those are exceptions rather than a rule, and (it looks to me like) most words of three or more letters aren't written without lifting the pen.
So, yeah, I guess, I wouldn't call it "really cursive" either.

But any modification of writing-style in which the number of times the writer has to "pick up the pen" is significantly reduced, is a step towards "cursive".
(Maybe we could call it "jogging writing" as opposed to "running writing"? [;)] )

The term "semi-cursive" is already used for some such scripts;
"quasi-cursive" could be for scripts that are "almost" cursive;
and we might make up (or maybe someone already has made up) some other term for scripts that are less-than-semi cursive but still noticeably more "cursive" than some other version.

It's starting to look, to me, like one meaning of "cursive" is a comparative term; within any given characterset, one writing-style can be more cursive than another.

Anyway I like the sample you posted.

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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Ear of the Sphinx » 25 Sep 2014 16:06

eldin raigmore wrote:I don't think Image counts as cursive; the writing-instrument is lifted from the writing-surface between characters in the same character-group.
It could be handwriting and/or longhand -- and is, if you say so, I suppose.

But to be cursive you must connect the characters in the same group (the letters in the same word, if it's an alphabet, or the syllable-symbols in the same word, if it's a syllabary, or the morphemes in the same word, if characters mostly represent morphemes and most utterances contain at least one word with at least two morphemes).
In other words, "cursive" is synonymous with "running writing", and implies "joint writing" or "joined-up writing".
… unless you are writing Hebrew.
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Keenir » 25 Sep 2014 17:42

Ahzoh wrote:I have 237 words defined so far.
I wonder what a good number is for everyday speech.
as a tourist or a native?
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Chagen » 25 Sep 2014 19:18

I have decided to write all Pazmat personal names in their definite singular forms, since they are inflected in the definite. Thus what was once Kārō shall be written as Kārarā.

This results in a funny situation: in most Romance languages, especially, say, Spanish and Italian, masculine names end in -o while feminine ones end in -a. In Pazmat it's the EXACT opposite; most male names are -ar stems or ablauting suffix stems, so they end in -ā: Kārarā, Jirganā, Kārīyarā, Yēśanā, Ibantatā, Naudhanā, Vajramarā, Dumarā, Urbarā...

In the meanwhile, most female names are -er stems, so they end in -o: Śṛdūyo, Śrēyamūyo, Ātīyūyo, Ikṇsūyo, Śirdamūyo, Narūyo, Nērīyūyo, Ayamūyo, Vṛsūyo...

Note that those male names up there usually undergo syncope, you'd hear Kārrā, Jirgnā, Kārīṣrā, Yēśnā, Ibanttā, Naudhnā, Vajramrā, Dumrā, and Urbrā instead of the longer forms. er-stem nouns do not undergo any type of the syncope so what I wrote up there would be what you hear in speech.

(There are a few female -ar stem names like Dumrīyarā/Dumrīṣrā, but there are almost no male -er stem names)
Nūdenku waga honji ma naku honyasi ne ika-ika ichamase!
female-appearance=despite boy-voice=PAT hold boy-youth=TOP very be.cute-3PL
Honyasi zō honyasi ma naidasu.
boy-youth=AGT boy-youth=PAT love.romantically-3S

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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Lambuzhao » 25 Sep 2014 20:22

Chagen:

That sounds perfectly Greco-Latin to me:

There are many Latin names/cognomina that end in -a but are masculine:

Agrippa
Caligula
Caracalla
Cinna
Galba

And a ton of Greek imports with NOM.SG /as/ or /es/:

a very few include:
Aeneas
Gygas
Gorgias
Hermes
Leonidas
...etc.

Conversely, there's a number of Greek/Latin female names that end in /o/ (stem *-on-)
Auxo
Callisto
Calypso
Ceto
Clio
Clotho
Dido
The Three Grey Sisters: Deino, Enyo, and Pemphredo
Gorgo
Juno
Leto
Peitho
Pytho
Sthenno (the eldest Gorgon)

Though they end in /na/, these nouns are also related because of nasal stem:

Annona (Roman goddess of the year)
Bellona (Roman goddess of war)
Epona (Gallo-Latin goddess of equids)
Latona (Lat. form of 'Leto')
Pomona (Roman goddess of fruits)

A very interesting reversal of the more familiar Italo-Hispano-Portuguese expected dichotomy.
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by atman » 25 Sep 2014 23:48

Lambuzhao wrote:Conversely, there's a number of Greek/Latin female names that end in /o/ (stem *-on-)
Auxo
Callisto
Calypso
Ceto
Clio
Clotho
Dido
The Three Grey Sisters: Deino, Enyo, and Pemphredo
Gorgo
Juno
Leto
Peitho
Pytho
Sthenno (the eldest Gorgon)
Indeed, how many female :grc: names ended with omega. God(s) know(s) whether they're still used in Atlántika...

In particular, I'm thinking of Σαπφώ > Atl. Sapo. It's a weird case, because in Atlántika's Iberian neighbors (Spanish, Portuguese...) "sapo" ended up meaning "toad". What a shameful decline for the great Lesbian poetess! [:S]
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Ahzoh » 26 Sep 2014 05:59

@atman, or maybe it is an honor for toads to be compared to a great dead poetess?
I now have words for common interjections.

Baḻam [ba'ɬam] - hello/hi/greetings
Mataǧlil [mataɣ'lil] - goodbye/see ya

Saẕẕil [saʑ'ʑil] - thanks/thank you
ʾIs nušaẏ/ jinšaẏ [ʔis nuɕae̯] or [d͡ʑinɕae̯] - you're welcome, literally "be sated" or "be satisfied"
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Ashucky » 26 Sep 2014 17:52

I've finally added Old Persian cuneiform to my custom font, yay! [:D] Still have to add Avestan and a few other scripts. Apart from the regular scripts (Latin, Cyrillic, Greek, etc.) it so far supports the entire cuneiform range, Egyptian hieroglyphs, Gothic, all three Georgian scripts, Tengwar and other Tolkien's runes, and now also Old Persian. Hm, it seems I haven't added Glagolitic and runes yet, though [O.o]
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Hūmantit kuēte esti kirītu-met – ūg apēn harmi samnāntā nu ūg apān ēlhami. Nēbetar mi arsanti nu dēvei istahantar gengei par amāt.

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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Ahzoh » 26 Sep 2014 18:10

Ashucky wrote:I've finally added Old Persian cuneiform to my custom font, yay! [:D] Still have to add Avestan and a few other scripts. Apart from the regular scripts (Latin, Cyrillic, Greek, etc.) it so far supports the entire cuneiform range, Egyptian hieroglyphs, Gothic, all three Georgian scripts, Tengwar and other Tolkien's runes, and now also Old Persian. Hm, it seems I haven't added Glagolitic and runes yet, though [O.o]
Add my conscript..? [:D]
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Ashucky » 26 Sep 2014 18:20

If you send me your font along with the desired private use area unicode points, sure [:D] I've been thinking of adding my conscript, too.
The whole world is my garden - I have created it and I rule it. The heavens envy me, and the gods stand before me humble.
Hūmantit kuēte esti kirītu-met – ūg apēn harmi samnāntā nu ūg apān ēlhami. Nēbetar mi arsanti nu dēvei istahantar gengei par amāt.

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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Keenir » 27 Sep 2014 08:50

Where C and V are word-final.

[]an
V-blan
thannablan [Tan:.ab.lan] I run now
V-gnan
thannagran [Tan:.aŋ.ran] I ran earlier
V-hran
thannahran [Tan:.a:.ran] I run now and again
.
thennablan [Ten:.ab.lan] we run now

[]ig the number...
C-tig (x1)
stestig [ste.stig] 1
hrastig [hra.stig] 3
dirtig [dir.tig] 5
bletig [ble.tig] 7
C-xig (x2)
stesxig [stes.xig] 2
dapxig [dap.xig] 4 (8 is also attested)
hrasxig [hras.xig] 6
C-ligg (x3)
hesligg [hes.lig:] 9
V-brigg (x10)
stesbrigg [ste.sbrig:] 10
kabrigg [ka.brig:] 20
hrasbrigg [hra.sbrig] 30
.
... steestig [ste:.stig] I count one...
.
stenen steestig [sten.en ste:.stig] I count one stone.
stenan [sten.an] pebble
stenin [sten.in] boulder
stenen [sten.en] {a building} stone
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Keenir » 27 Sep 2014 21:16

Working on the uses of [h]-

Given what I'm aiming to emulate...
Wiki's Old English wrote:h /h/ and its allophones [ç, x]. In the combinations 〈hl〉, 〈hr〉, 〈hn〉, 〈hw〉, the second consonant was certainly voiceless.
[h] word-initially,
[x] word-medially;
There are no known cases of [h] or its allophones word-finally.

hriddak [hrid:.ak] - a mosquito-ish fly.
Gech hriddak [geC hrid:.ak] eater of those flies. {as in, The events of that childhood dare would never fully leave him, for ever since, he has been known as Malcolm-Gech-Hriddak}
Gechxiddak [geC.xrid:.ak] a tiny species of spider which specializes upon those flies. {it may be a full genera; the paper about its taxonomy hasn't been published}

[x]C is not very productive, and is found mostly in numbers and counting words, where it tended to become either C[x] or the voiceless consonant was lost entirely. (see, for example, the [xig] suffix in the numbers, where the [x] forms a consonant pairing with )
[hr] is one of the few still-productive uses for [r] which does not involve placement word-finally to make plurals.
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Egerius » 28 Sep 2014 00:55

I continued refining my first Romanz dialect with Zompist's SCA2.

Input:
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bónŭs
dônŭm
ēx-
qŭám
súb
sánctŭs
prómptŭs
ágnŭs
crûdŭs
círcŭs
nóuŭs
ángŭlŭs
íntĕr
úndĕ
áltŭs
súpĕr
gílvŭs
úrsŭs
múltŭm
áxĕm
sómnĭŭm
ăcûtŭs
dŭlcĕ
flámmăm
hĭspânĭăm
vĕntânăm
fĕnéstrăm
síluăm
pîlăm
însŭlăm
pīrâtăm
mĭxtûrăm
mūstêlăm
cúlpăm
spínăm
ópĕrăm
fîlĭăm
têrrăm
vîtăm
stêllăm
adĭûtăm
pœnăm
ĕcclésĭăm
búccăm
cênăm
gĭngîvăm
aŭrícŭlăm
fácĭăm
spáldăm
sêpĭăm
plúvĭăm
símĭăm
vînĕăm
ságmăm
têgŭlăm
scrīptûrăm
váccăm
vîllăm
vĕrēcûndĭăm
gúttăm
cáŭsăm
mēnsûrăm
línguăm
schólăm
spônsăm
cáprăm
ărânĕăm
têlăm
rômăm
fócŭs
jócŭs
cæcŭs
dēnârĭŭs
dīstríctŭs
sĕcúndŭs
căbállŭs
mânŭs
múndŭs
vīcînŭs
ánnŭs
hýmnŭs
ôcŭlŭs
dígĭtŭs
frîgĭdŭs
pāgânŭs
ĭnĭmîcŭs
táxŭs
bássŭs
séruŭs
gĕrmânŭs
cōnsōbrînŭs
córpŭs
témpŭs
dĭrêctŭs
sáxĕŭs
câsĕŭs
dómĭnŭs
pórtŭs
căpĭtánĕŭs
nîdŭs
cáttŭs
gélū
măgístrŭm
dĕôrsŭm
dĭúrnŭm
férrŭm
spécŭlŭm
ărgéntŭm
áŭrŭm
prétĭŭm
mŏnăstêrĭŭm
cælŭm
sæcŭlŭm
rêgnŭm
bráchĭŭm
pérsĭcŭm
pútĕŭm
ĭānŭârĭŭm
sîgnŭm
vádŭm
cýgnŭm
acĭârĭŭm
féltrŭm
ánŭlŭm
ôuŭm
spátĭŭm
dúplŭm
mácrŭm
ĭntégrŭm
fĕrrêŭm
júgŭm
stúdĭŭm
câpŭt
căpítĭă
lēctôrĕm
dŏctôrĕm
cīvĭtâtĕm
cīvîlĕm
lêgĕm
géntĕm
déntĕm
móntĕm
póntĕm
pāgênsĕm
ĭnfántĕm
frátrĕm
ætâtĕm
nātĭônĕm
ratĭônĕm
cŏratĭônĕm
mănsĭônĕm
sórdēs
dúcĕm
cônsŭlĕm
lăbôrĕm
īnscrīptĭônĕm
quæstĭônĕm
pédĕm
sôlĕm
hómō
hómĭnĕm
pártĕm
potĭônĕm
nóctĕm
sítĕm
sôlĕnmĕm
dîĕm
píscĕm
ēvéntŭm
ĕlĕphántĕm
nômĕn
cómĭtĕm
sēssĭônĕm
ănĭmâlĕm
uúlpĕm
cânĕm
vĭrtûtĕm
lĕuĭtâtĕm
sŏrôrĕm
pĕrcŏntârĕ
prĕcŏntârĕ
dēmăndârĕ
sínĕ
antîqŭŭm
vólĕō
quærō
sápĕō
pénsō
crêdŏ
cŏmprĕhéndō
dĭscérnō
cônsŭō
âmō
ĭăctârĕ
fābŭlârĕ
părăbŏlâre
căntârĕ
lăbōrârĕ
cŏăgŭlârĕ
ĕxăggērârĕ
fĭrmârĕ
ŭtĭlĭsârĕ
păssârĕ
pĭscârĕ
ăuscŭltârĕ
ŏblĭgârĕ
nōmĭnârĕ
ĭndĭcârĕ
băptĭzârĕ
hăbêrĕ
vĭdêrĕ
dīcérĕ dîcĕrĕ
mŭlcêrĕ
rĕgérĕ
ŏccīdérĕ
ăpĕrîrĕ
ăŭdîrĕ
cŏmmăndâvĭt
ĕncăntâvī
vĭnĭdcâvī
ămâuĭ
dēlêuī
dóluī
hăbéndŭm
pósĭtŭm
mēdĭânŭs
áltĕrŭs
méŭs
lætŭs
cæcŭs
căptîuŭs
mínŭs
ómnēs
rōmânĭcĕ
sŭbíndĕ
hôdĭĕ
ĭllî
ĭllæ
ûnŭs
égŏ
nôs
qŭômŏdŏ
cŭm
qŭŏd
qŭî
qŭíd
cúĭŭs
nûllŭm
ûnŭs
dúă
três
quáttrŏ
quînquĕ
sêx
séptĕm
óctō
nóuĕm
décĕm
ûndĕcĭm
duódĕcĭm
trédĕcĭm
quăttuórdĕcĭm
quîndĕcĭm
sêdĕcĭm
dĕcĕtséptĕm
dĕcĕóctō
dĕcĕnôuĕm
vīgíntī
trīgíntā
quădrāgíntā
quīnquāgíntā
sexāgíntā
septuāgíntā
ŏctōgíntā
nōnāgíntā
céntŭm
quártŭs
quîntŭs
înfāns
Sound changes:
Spoiler:
#Phonetic transcription
v/w/_
[vuŭ]/w/_V
[vuŭ]/w/_[æœ]
ĭ/j/#_V
ĭ/j/V_V
j/jj/V_V
[cq]/k/_
l/ɫ/_
ɫɫ/ll/_
ɫ/l/_[ĭīîí]
r/ɾ/_
ɾɾ/r/_
ɾ/r/#_
n/ŋ/_[qckg]
n/m/[pbm]
n/ɱ/_f
g/ŋ/_n
x/ks/_
z/ʣ/_
h/ʰ/[kpt]_
kw/kʷ/_
gw/gʷ/_V
ám/ã/_[X#]
ém/ẽ/_[X#]
ím/ĩ/_[X#]
óm/õ/_[X#]
úm/ũ/_[X#]
ām/a᷄/_[X#]
ēm/e᷄/_[X#]
īm/i᷄/_[X#]
ōm/o᷄/_[X#]
ūm/u᷄/_[X#]
ăm/a̰/_[X#]
ĕm/ḛ/_[X#]
ĭm/ḭ/_[X#]
ŏm/o̰/_[X#]
ŭm/ṵ/_[X#]
âm/a᷈/_[X#]
êm/e᷈/_[X#]
îm/i᷈/_[X#]
ôm/o᷈/_[X#]
ûm/u᷈/_[X#]

#3C BC
ăn/a̰/_X
ĕn/ḛ/_X
ĭn/ḭ/_X
ŏn/o̰/_X
ŭn/ṵ/_X
ān/a᷄/_X
ēn/e᷄/_X
īn/i᷄/_X
ōn/o᷄/_X
ūn/u᷄/_X
án/ã/_X
én/ẽ/_X
ín/ĩ/_X
ón/õ/_X
ún/ũ/_X
ân/a᷈/_X
ên/e᷈/_X
în/i᷈/_X
ôn/o᷈/_X
ûn/u᷈/_X

#2C BC
y̆/ĭ/_
ȳ/ī/_
ý/í/_
ŷ/î/_
pʰ/f/_
ʰ//_

#1C BC
h//_
a̰/a/_#/#C_
a̰/an/#C_#
ã/a/_#
[ḭ]/ī/_#/#C_
[ḛ]/ē/_#/#C_
[ḛḭ]/en/#C_#
[ṵ]/ū/_#/#C_
[o̰]/ō/_#/#C_
[o̰ṵ]/on/#C_#
a̰/ā/_
a᷄/ā/_
e᷄/ē/_
i᷄/ī/_
o᷄/ō/_
u᷄/ū/_
æ/ɛ/_
œ/e/_

#1C AD
ă/a/_
ĕ/e/_
ĭ/i/_
ŏ/o/_
ŭ/u/_
D/W/_
w/β/_/[kg]_
β/w/C_VC/CC_
j/ʝ/_/V_
ss/s/D_
ɾs/ss/_
ts/ss/_
b/β/V_
p/ɸ/_[ts]
k/x/_[ts]
g/ɣ/V_C/_g

#2C AD
a᷈/â/_
e᷈/ê/_
e᷄/ē/_
i᷈/î/_
o᷈/ô/_
o᷄/ō/_
u᷈/û/_
ã/â/_
ẽ/é/_
ĩ/ê/_
õ/ó/_
ũ/ô/_
[iu]//C_ɫV
t/k/_ɫ
[ie]/j/C_V
ā/â/_
ē/ê/_
ī/î/_
ō/ô/_
ū/û/_
[âá]/á/_
é/ɛ/_
ê/é/_
í/ɪ/_
î/í/_
ŋ/n/_/_[nkg]

#3C AD
t/ʦʲ/_j/s_j
s/z/F_V
d/ɟ/V_jV
j/ɟ/Vɟ_V
k/c/_j
j//c_
g/ɟ/V_jV
j/ɟ/Vɟ_V
C/C²/_w
w//C²_
C//#_²
β//CC_V
w//s_V
/i/#_sC
ɫ/l/_
ɪ/é/_
ó/ɔ/_
ô/ó/_
ú/ʊ/_
û/ú/_
*C/C²/_j

#4C AD
m//_nj
ʊ/ó/_
k/c/_F
k/c/_c
g/ɟ/_F
g/ɟ/_ɟ
l/ʎ/_j
n/ɲ/_j
j/ʎ/ʎ_
j//[ʎɲ]_
ʎ/ʎʎ/_
ʎʎʎʎ/ʎʎ/_
ɲ/ɲɲ/_
ɟ/j/C_[áéíóúɛɪɔʊ]/#C_
j//C_[áéíóúɛɪɔʊ]/#C_
ʦʲ/tʦ/_j
ɸ/t/_t/_tʦ
ɸ//_tʦ
ɸ/s/_s
j//tʦ_

#5C AD
s/ɕʲ/_[cʨ]
u/o/_#
s/j/V_#
j//V_#
ʨ/ʃʲ/s_
s/ʃʲ/_ʃʲ
ɣ/w/_m
ɟ/j/V_[áéíóúɛɪɔʊ]
ʷ//_F
ʷ//_B
x/ç/_[ts]
ɣ/ʝ/_n
W//OC_CV#/_P
mt/n/_t
mt/nt/_
ɛ/ʲɛ/_/_CC
ʲɛ/ɛ/_[r…A]
ɔ/ʷɔ/_/_CC
ʷɔ/ɔ/_[r…A]

#6C AD
[ɣŋ]/j/_n
n/ɲ/j_
j/ɲ/_ɲ
kl/ʎʎ/_/C_
gl/ʎʎ/_/ŋ_
ʝ/ʑʲ/#_
j/ʝ/_ʝ
ʝʝ/ɟɟ/_
s/ɕʲ/ç_
ç/ɕʲ/_ɕʲ
s/ɕ/_j
j/ʲ/ɕ_
cc/tʨʲ/_
c/ʨʲ/_
ɟɟ/dʥʲ/_
ɟ/ʥʲ/_
ʨʲ/ɕʲ/ɕʲ_
l/ɾ/#M_


#7C AD
d/ð/V_[ŹV]
ðʥʲ/dʣʲ/_
g/ɣ/V_[ŹV]
S/Z/F_[ŹV]
S/Z/V_ɾ
é/í/j_
aj/e/_/_VCV#
j//a_í
eí/ɛ/_
áβ/áɔ/_iC
β//á_i#
i//áɔ_

#8C AD
u/o/_C#
i/e/_C#
o/u/_C[Cʲ]i#
e/i/_C[Cʲ]i#
*C//W_#/#CW_
*áɔ/ɔ/_

#9C AD
*j//Vɾ_
*ʲɛ/jɛ/_
*ʷɔ/wɔ/_
*β/v/_F
*p/pp/_j
*b/bb/_j

#10C AD
*ʑʲ/ʒʲ/_
*ɕʲ/ʃʲ/_
*dʥʲ/dʤʲ/_
*ʥʲ/ʤʲ/_
*tʨʲ/tʧʲ/_
*ʨʲ/ʧʲ/_

#11C AD


#12C AD


#13C AD
*ʲ//[ʧʃʦʤʒʣ]

#14C AD


#Orthography
*k/c/_[aouáóòú]
*ʧ/c/_[eiéèí]
* ʥ ʨ ʑ ɕ
Note: Sound changes/entries which are preceded by an asterisk (*), will not work.

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V=âêîôûŷāēīōūȳáéíóúýăĕĭŏŭy̆a̰ḛḭo̰ṵa᷄e᷄i᷄o᷄u᷄ãẽĩõũa᷈e᷈i᷈o᷈u᷈aeiouɛɪɔʊy
D=âêîôûāēīōū
A=âêîôûáéɛíóɔú
K=áéɛíóɔúaeiou
W=āēīōūaeiou
O=ɛɔ
F=iíɪéeɛ́ɛ
B=oóɔuúʊ
E=eiɛɪ
U=ouɔʊ
C=ptckqbdgmnŋlɫrɾhszjβðɣçzwjʧʃʦʤʒʣʥʨʑɕʎɲçx
S=ptks
Z=bdgz
J=βðɣz
P=ʧʃʦʨɕcʤʒʣʥʑɟʎɲ
L=rɾlɫ
N=mnŋɱ
M=pbckgf
H=wj
X=szfh
Ś=ptcksʦʃʧɕʨɸfθçxh
Ź=bdɟgzʣʒʤʑʥβvðʝɾrlʎmɱnɲŋ
Not perfect and not quite finished, but you get the direction.
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Khemehekis » 28 Sep 2014 07:28

Maybe you can add Kankonian letters, punctuation, numerals and mathematical symbols too!

http://khemehekis.angelfire.com/kankalph.htm
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Thrice Xandvii » 28 Sep 2014 08:33

I found out that there exists a language that actually had a system of regular vowrl metathesis among its sound changes. As such, I added a system of regular vowel metathesis in the final two syllables of Islhenti.

The language in question is called Hawu, which is Austronesian in origin.
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by DesEsseintes » 28 Sep 2014 08:50

XXXVII wrote:I found out that there exists a language that actually had a system of regular vowrl metathesis among its sound changes. As such, I added a system of regular vowel metathesis in the final two syllables of Islhenti.

The language in question is called Hawu, which is Austronesian in origin.
No sharing of details/sources? [:(]

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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Thrice Xandvii » 28 Sep 2014 13:10

Well, basically I wanted to do something with Islhenti's sound changes that would further differentiate it from Latin, from which it derives, specifically I always wanted to move the vowels around. So, I went looking for something like that. Well, I stumbled upon a reference to Hawu in a Google search. To my surprise, it not only had metathesis, but completely regularly at that!

I guess it's the only such language yet documented. Therefore, I had precedence and decided to include it. Beyond that, there isn't much, really. Islhenti is very underdeveloped and in fact I am nowhere near done with the sound changes even, so I can't even do much with examples. All that I do have is available on Frath through the link in my sig.

I can link ya to the page I discovered via Google though: http://muse.jhu.edu/login?auth=0&type=s ... blust.html
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Chagen » 29 Sep 2014 21:36

Work has been begun on a new set of participles for Pazmat. Unfortunately this is harder than I thought; I've already exhausted a lot of potential suffixes and I don't want these to be too long.

A preliminary present active I have is in -ar: matar- "speaking", subar- "learning", jṛgar- "feeling". The past active will possibly end in -ur with a lengthened root: mētur- "having spoken", soybur- "having learned", jirgur- "having felt".

Man I am just stuck. The inflections for this lang are so goddamn long that I have to keep my suffixes short. The -er stem plural definite dative is -ūyeyyīm. This results in stuff like cṛsūyeyyīm kirarūyeyyīm "to the dancing girls" or "to the girls who are dancing". Ugh. This is with but simple -VC suffixes.

It's really just the -er stems too, they are comically long :v:. I need to change them because the other classes aren't as bad; wufrīyyīm kirarrīyyīm :to the boys who are dancing", najiddarat kiraraddarat "to the adults who are dancing"
Nūdenku waga honji ma naku honyasi ne ika-ika ichamase!
female-appearance=despite boy-voice=PAT hold boy-youth=TOP very be.cute-3PL
Honyasi zō honyasi ma naidasu.
boy-youth=AGT boy-youth=PAT love.romantically-3S

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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by thaen » 30 Sep 2014 02:43

A little late, but I translated some sweet nothings into Nillaehimmae as a surprise for my girlfriend. [B)]

I also got inspired to make some phonemes do fun allophony in Nillaehimmae when juxtaposed just so, especially /j w/, and also for /p t k/ to be voiced when not word-initial, and have them do fun things too.
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:con: Øð!
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