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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by qwed117 » 31 Mar 2015 03:45

Created the Imperative form in Akuriga. Thought about a potential merger between the Imperative and Suggestive moods in a descendant; decided to leave it for North East Akuriga.
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Chagen » 31 Mar 2015 06:01

This is like super-minor and barely worthy of a post, but I've realized that the ablocative in Pazmat could easily be used to mean "X-less":

ḥesōsam yēna
home-INDEF.SG-ABLOC be.IMPERF-1S
I'm homeless (right now) (lit. "I am away from a home right now")

trauṣrā bīntōsam
heat-DEF.SG.NOM end-INDEF.SG-ABLOC
This heat is endless
Nūdenku waga honji ma naku honyasi ne ika-ika ichamase!
female-appearance=despite boy-voice=PAT hold boy-youth=TOP very be.cute-3PL
Honyasi zō honyasi ma naidasu.
boy-youth=AGT boy-youth=PAT love.romantically-3S

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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Creyeditor » 31 Mar 2015 11:28

Nice idea, Chagen [:)]
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Khemehekis » 01 Apr 2015 00:39

Added this bit to my Kankonian grammar:



To say that something reaches a maximum or minimum of a number, place "war" between the adjective and the number:

Meyez az nagaras er lei gai*etas argas war 500,000 pokhales alan oiri.
person-PL who work-PRS at here earn-PRS much as 500,000 pokhal-PL per year
People working here make as much as 500,000 pokhales a year.

Welas az en mamiz war 5 nagaren e ham katetoukshakti.
child-PL who PST young as 5 work-PST in that sweatshop
Children as young as 5 were working in that sweatshop.


Edit: Just FYI, katetoukshakti comes from the Kankonian words katetouk, meaning cockroach, and shakti, meaning house.

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Post by DesEsseintes » 01 Apr 2015 18:38

Tentative form for a Limestone verb:

Óónontsíyıpńńanıwa
oo-non-t-ııp-nna-nıwa
1-see-DYN-TA-1p.EXCL-3p.PROX
We (can) see them.

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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Thrice Xandvii » 01 Apr 2015 21:16

I may have just named Project Gravel!

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Which says: Cvaguṭl̦tqə[kʋa.gu.θl̩t.qə]. Eh?


(Also, I just got jankoed a few moments ago.)
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by shimobaatar » 01 Apr 2015 22:24

@DesEsseintes: Looks interesting! Can't wait to see more. [:)]

@Thrice Xandvii: I'm sure I've said how much I like the script before, but I'm also a fan of the new name! Which syllable is stressed?

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Post by J_from_Holland » 02 Apr 2015 21:46

Thrice Xandvii wrote:I may have just named Project Gravel!

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Which says: Cvaguṭl̦tqə[kʋa.gu.θl̩t.qə]. Eh?


(Also, I just got jankoed a few moments ago.)
Woah, that script looks really nice. Looks a bit Cyrillic'ish, but really really cool!
By the way, I haven't translated 'to be jankoed' in Bløjhvåtterskyll. Shall I do that? [xD]
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Post by Egerius » 02 Apr 2015 22:10

Something in conworlding yesterday/today (and it's full of parodies):
Rodentèrra gets its cool-and-overpriced computer company, Amizána, corresponding to our Apple, Inc. but with Wintel market share.
Officially founded in 2976, the company had a succeeding line of computer products which are comparable (and compatible) to the Apple ][ line, slowly migrating to 32 bit systems in early 2984.
The newly introduced Maçón (read: Macintosh) personal computers, based on the Motorola 68000 processor, proved to be a success with better-performing models introduced within the next year.
Laptops followed in 2989, as the needs for portable companions to the modular models arose which were introduced two years earlier.
The Motorola 68000-based models were slowly phased out by models with a Motorola 88000 processor until the mid-2090s.

The model I mentioned over here, the Amizána Maçón ForteLivro G4, a parody of the PowerBook line, is using a fourth-Generation PowerPC processor, introduced in mid-3014, is the most modern piece of computing hardware one could get in contemporary Rodentèrra - hardware specifications will follow later.
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Prinsessa » 02 Apr 2015 22:19

Egerius wrote:Wintel
okay that was pretty punny

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Post by Chagen » 02 Apr 2015 22:43

I have terrible allergies in the spring. Therefore, now's a better time than ever to make terms for Pazmat!

Allergy: uldasar (lit. "reaction" from uld- "respond, react")
Allergen: ūldēṣrasī (lit. "that which causes to react")

Nose: serā (ser- "to sniff, smell")
Nasal: sīr-

Sneeze: xacchā ("to sneeze" = xach-, both possibly related to onomatopoeia for sneezing, "XACC'NŪ!"_

Runny nose: serā jrauqā (lit. "wet nose")
Stuffy nose: serā kārītā (lit. "nose which is filled"; often just kārītā alone)

Nasal congestion: mentraḥirū sīrirū

To blow one's nose: serāya dhir- (lit "release the nose")

Sniffle(s): sīrrasā (a diminutive of sīrarā "sniff, smell, whiff"; Pazmat does not use a verb for "to sniffle" but just says sīrrēsya śra- "do a sniffle")
Nūdenku waga honji ma naku honyasi ne ika-ika ichamase!
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Honyasi zō honyasi ma naidasu.
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Fanael » 02 Apr 2015 23:00

Prinsessa wrote:
Egerius wrote:Wintel
okay that was pretty punny
It's a pretty well established term, you know.

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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Ahzoh » 02 Apr 2015 23:03

J_from_Holland wrote:By the way, I haven't translated 'to be jankoed' in Bløjhvåtterskyll. Shall I do that? [xD]
I have the root k-ḏ-k-f meaning: to computerize, or to spontaneously ask for someone's set of numbers from one to ten in a newly created language.

Nukuḏkaf ẕaẏ.
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Khemehekis » 03 Apr 2015 01:15

Did lots of work clarifying use of adverbs and determiners in my Kankonian grammar. I added this clarification on "all" and related words:



The determiners "hali" (every) and "hales" (all) are easily confusable, but "hali" is singular and "hales" is plural. "Hali" is used as a sort of distributive plural adjective, when you are talking about each one individually:

Hales ziyenes na is sapadzen is.
all problem-PL of 1sg get_to-PST 1sg
All of my problems got to me.

Hali ziyen bridretzen mui bridrizen is, khile in.
every problem nag_at-PST and nag_at-PST 1sg each one
Every problem nagged at me, each in its own way.

The word "hal" means "each", but it also means "all" when you are using a mass noun rather than a count noun:

Sharon palaten hal telemis.
Sharon tap_on_the_shoulder-PST each student
Sharon tapped each student on the shoulder.

Hal shalut as bamosh.
all sugar PRS sweet
All sugar is sweet.

"Osales" ("not all" with a count noun) and "osal" ("not all" with a mass noun) work similarly:

Osales bepas as gudum.
not_all apple-PL PRS red
Not all apples are red.

Osal holak as kran.
not_all grass PRS green
Not all grass is green.



I also did this either/or, neither/or stuff:




Two sets of conjunctions that come in pairs ar "hir - yer" (either - or) and "shan - nan" (neither - nor).

With "hir - yer" the "yer" is placed where English "or" would be, and "hir" comes at the latest point where separate words apply, be it the nominals or adjectives themselves:

Is sudeimos hir Fasha yer Tanda.
1sg ask_to_accompany_one-FUT either Fasha or Tanda
I shall ask either Fasha or Tanda to accompany me.

Is azfuiras e hir algas yer hasp.
1sg hope-PRS COP either rich or famous
I hope to be either rich or famous.

Hir tzeimoa yer pholos a*utzkios.
either coffee or pholos suffice-FUT
Either coffee or pholos will do.

or the verbs:

Is trayas hir fremet shalang yer dereyush.
1sg have_to-PRS either take detour or return_home
I must either take a detour or go back home.

Is hir me araten sobum na is, yer as shayam mui shayam houmfi.
1sg either just lose-PST file of 1sg or PRS very and very confused
Either I just lost my file, or I am so very confused.

or even the whole clauses/sentence:

Hir ar alshpitzas, yer Rapa as adaz as zopserd.
either 2sg lie-PRS or Rapa PRS what-that PRS spy
Either you're lying, or it's Rapa who's the spy.

Is ubass az hir ar alshpitzas, yer Rapa as adaz as zopserd.
1sg believe-PRS that either 1sg lie-PRS or Rapa PRS what-REL PRS spy
I believe that either you're lying, or it's Rapa who's the spy.

"Shan - nan" works the same way:

Is as shan talwan nan *a*athis.
1sg PRS neither hungry nor thirsty
I am neither hungry nor thirsty.

Deir trayas shan alshpitz nan dartz.
2pl have_to-PRS neither lie nor steal
You must neither lie nor steal.




And finally, this point:




A noun inserted into such a phrase comes after the determiner and before the "na az", not at the end as in English:

Mem gu ien nalosh az is as leflu mui az is as merz, pleos naloshiz na az as eosa.
3pl likely would assume that 1sg PRS shy and that 1sg PRS nerd neither assumption of REL PRS true
They would likely assume that I was shy and that I was a nerd, neither of which assumption would be true.

Tshaka wafinen az is hir satendos va abam shalut yer hakos kadiak kam hali blahatz, khile sati*as na az taglisen is.
Tshaka suggest-PST that 1sg either stop-FUT VA-PARTICLE eat sugar or hit-FUT gym on every day both proposition-PL of REL scare-PST 1sg
Tshaka suggested that either I stop eating sugar, or I hit the gym every day, both of which propositions scared me.
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Thrice Xandvii » 03 Apr 2015 04:11

shimobaatar wrote:@Thrice Xandvii: I'm sure I've said how much I like the script before, but I'm also a fan of the new name! Which syllable is stressed?
I meant to answer this question a while ago... but I guess I never did.

Honestly, I haven't even begun to think about stress in that language yet. I think it will be based on the weight of syllables, so the long vowel will have an impact on stress, as will final consonant clusters and such. Then, should there be a tie, I think I'll have the one furthest to the front of the word win out.

So, in the case of the example word, I think it would be: [kʋa.gu.'θl̩t.qə]

This aspect of Gravel isn't set in stone... pun intended. [:)]
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Post by shimobaatar » 03 Apr 2015 04:19

Thrice Xandvii wrote:I meant to answer this question a while ago... but I guess I never did.
No worries. That happens to me, too.
Thrice Xandvii wrote:Honestly, I haven't even begun to think about stress in that language yet. I think it will be based on the weight of syllables, so the long vowel will have an impact on stress, as will final consonant clusters and such. Then, should there be a tie, I think I'll have the one furthest to the front of the word win out.

So, in the case of the example word, I think it would be: [kʋa.gu.'θl̩t.qə]
Stress and related topics can often be difficult to pin down for me too. I like the ideas you've thrown out here, though, and the pronunciation of the word feels "natural" to me.
Thrice Xandvii wrote:This aspect of Gravel isn't set in stone... pun intended. [:)]
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Post by Linguifex » 03 Apr 2015 07:10

Over on the ZBB, I've started on a project I've been wanting to do for a long time. Via the Internet Archive, I have a copy of Sir Harry Hamilton Johnston's A Comparative Study of the Bantu and Semi-Bantu Languages. For a while now, I've wanted to try my hand at figuring out the sound changes between the various languages. I'm posting things in the ZBB's Correspondence Library thread; currently I only have sound-change lists for a few of the Nyanza languages. They're probably somewhat incorrect, but I figure they're a start (and maybe I can gain some actually-useful experience out of doing this).
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

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Decided to represent my pre-aspiration series with a zigzag above diacritic:

<p͛ t͛ k͛ q͛ l͛ m͛ n͛ r͛ č͛>

It more accurately corresponds to the pre-aspiration diacritic which looks zigzagy.
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Post by J_from_Holland » 04 Apr 2015 22:16

Ahzoh wrote:Decided to represent my pre-aspiration series with a zigzag above diacritic:

<p͛ t͛ k͛ q͛ l͛ m͛ n͛ r͛ č͛>

It more accurately corresponds to the pre-aspiration diacritic which looks zigzagy.
I call the mark mammid.
Let's find fonts with a mammid...
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Post by Ahzoh » 04 Apr 2015 22:40

J_from_Holland wrote:
Ahzoh wrote:Decided to represent my pre-aspiration series with a zigzag above diacritic:

<p͛ t͛ k͛ q͛ l͛ m͛ n͛ r͛ č͛>

It more accurately corresponds to the pre-aspiration diacritic which looks zigzagy.
I call the mark mammid.
Let's find fonts with a mammid...
The mammid exists only in Vrkhazhian native script. As for visibility, I believe Arial and Microsoft Sans Serif shows it.

Mammid [mam.miD] means "that which dashes"
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