What did you accomplish today?

A forum for all topics related to constructed languages
User avatar
loglorn
mayan
mayan
Posts: 1882
Joined: 17 Mar 2014 03:22

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by loglorn » 17 Jan 2018 10:47

Thrice Xandvii wrote:
17 Jan 2018 08:22
Why oh why do your posts say "clongo!" For what purpose do you change the abbreviation!?
Pretty sure there's a joke somewhere.
Diachronic Conlanging is the path to happiness, given time. [;)]

Gigxkpoyan Languages: CHÍFJAEŚÍ RETLA TLAPTHUV DÄLDLEN CJUŚËKNJU ṢATT

Other langs: Søsøzatli Kamëzet

User avatar
DesEsseintes
mongolian
mongolian
Posts: 4609
Joined: 31 Mar 2013 13:16

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by DesEsseintes » 17 Jan 2018 10:56

Thrice Xandvii wrote:
17 Jan 2018 08:22
Why oh why do your posts say "clongo!" For what purpose do you change the abbreviation!?
I use “morfofo” for morphophonological processes. Words in -oCo are the best. [xD]

User avatar
Lao Kou
korean
korean
Posts: 5665
Joined: 25 Nov 2012 10:39
Location: 蘇州/苏州

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Lao Kou » 17 Jan 2018 11:54

DesEsseintes wrote:
17 Jan 2018 10:56
Thrice Xandvii wrote:
17 Jan 2018 08:22
Why oh why do your posts say "clongo!" For what purpose do you change the abbreviation!?
I use “morfofo” for morphophonological processes. Words in -oCo are the best. [xD]
I may be a product of my time, and I understand what Des is talking about when he says "morfofo", but when I see it, I can't help but think back to Oprah's (and others') "vajaijai" in reference to the "vadge". Also "morfofo" makes me think of "muff", another referent to the vadge.

As for "clongo", well, we've been given a link offering conlang criticism that rhymes with "Congo". Whatevs. Whether they're called "conlangs" (what we in the day used to call 'em), or "clongos" (is the term even actually catching on-go ?), some of us would like to see fully fleshed-out langs beyond just phonological sleight of hand, or others, langs manifest in fleshed-out worlds/cultures.
道可道,非常道
名可名,非常名

User avatar
alynnidalar
roman
roman
Posts: 1037
Joined: 17 Aug 2014 03:22
Location: Michigan, USA

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by alynnidalar » 17 Jan 2018 15:52

After a bit of a vacation from conlanging, I started working on my new Tirina grammar again yesterday. I've got some phonology, morphology, and a good chunk of a chapter on nouns together; when I finish the chapter on nouns ("finish", I say, as if one could ever finish such a thing) I might post it up and let you all have a look. (on an orthogonal note, apparently ProWritingAid thinks my writing is too complex. Look, it's a reference grammar. It's supposed to have technical terms in it)

My old Tirina grammar is just... so sadly out of date. It's interesting from the perspective of seeing how much Tirina has changed over time... but every time I look at it, it's all "oh, skip that section, skip that section, I completely forgot I was going to do that at one point, OK here's the useful bit". It's completely useless to anyone but me, because I'm the only one who knows which parts of it are out of date!

User avatar
elemtilas
runic
runic
Posts: 3512
Joined: 22 Nov 2014 04:48

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by elemtilas » 17 Jan 2018 16:56

Fluffy8x wrote:
17 Jan 2018 05:39
Launched a new blog where I review clongos.
I don't see where you're actually "reviewing" all the hoary, slatty beaches that have ever wronged you over the course of your life.

Unless I missed a key memo, a clongo (also klongo) is really a not very civil word for a maniser. Of course, manising (like womanising) is a very uncivil behaviour to engage in!

Might want to take that into consideration especially when reviewing other peoples' invented languages. They may not appreciate their works being associated with a gutter slang name.

shimobaatar
korean
korean
Posts: 11710
Joined: 12 Jul 2013 23:09
Location: PA → IN

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by shimobaatar » 17 Jan 2018 19:47

Fluffy8x wrote:
17 Jan 2018 05:39
Launched a new blog where I review clongos.
You can do whatever you want with the name, of course, and feel free to ignore this first sentence, but for whatever small amount it's worth, I'm personally not a fan of the sound of the word "clongo", and I can't imagine why you would use that word instead of the more recognizable and generally accepted "conlang", especially if you're trying to attract readers to your blog. However, I have never, ever heard anyone use "clongo" as a derogatory term for a woman. I've never heard anyone use it at all, actually. The only evidence I can find for "clongo" being used that way is a single Urban Dictionary entry from 2009. My point is that, if you really want to call them "clongos", I don't think anyone will read that and think you're using a derogatory term, especially since you have the words "constructed languages" in the description of your blog.

Also, looking at your blog, I might be missing something, but I'm not entirely clear on how you choose conlangs to review. Although in your third post you say you do know the creator, and that the creator requested the review, two of the posts say "Requested by no one". Do the creators of the first two conlangs you reviewed know that their languages have been featured on your blog? Did they give you permission to review their work?

User avatar
Fluffy8x
cuneiform
cuneiform
Posts: 89
Joined: 28 Apr 2014 06:38
Contact:

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Fluffy8x » 17 Jan 2018 20:21

shimobaatar wrote:
17 Jan 2018 19:47
Also, looking at your blog, I might be missing something, but I'm not entirely clear on how you choose clongos to review. Although in your third post you say you do know the creator, and that the creator requested the review, two of the posts say "Requested by no one". Do the creators of the first two clongos you reviewed know that their languages have been featured on your blog? Did they give you permission to review their work?
Koten-1 and Phoenixian were chosen by looking around /r/conlangs and picking interesting languages. Timah was requested through the blog comments.

As for your second question, yes, I replied to them on the subreddit. I didn't ask for permission, but the creators of those languages didn't seem to mind that I reviewed their work.
an siina levian t'isorakateez

shimobaatar
korean
korean
Posts: 11710
Joined: 12 Jul 2013 23:09
Location: PA → IN

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by shimobaatar » 17 Jan 2018 20:40

Fluffy8x wrote:
17 Jan 2018 20:21
shimobaatar wrote:
17 Jan 2018 19:47
Also, looking at your blog, I might be missing something, but I'm not entirely clear on how you choose clongos to review. Although in your third post you say you do know the creator, and that the creator requested the review, two of the posts say "Requested by no one". Do the creators of the first two clongos you reviewed know that their languages have been featured on your blog? Did they give you permission to review their work?
Koten-1 and Phoenixian were chosen by looking around /r/conlangs and picking interesting languages. Timah was requested through the blog comments.

As for your second question, yes, I replied to them on the subreddit. I didn't ask for permission, but the creators of those languages didn't seem to mind that I reviewed their work.
I would definitely ask permission in the future, or at least be open to taking down reviews if the creators ask you to. I know that I, personally, wouldn't want to have any of my languages reviewed in this way, and I'm sure I'm not alone. That said, and as you've already seen, I'm sure plenty of conlangers will have no problem with their work being the subject of reviews, so don't be discouraged if a few people say "no". Best of luck with your blog!

User avatar
Fluffy8x
cuneiform
cuneiform
Posts: 89
Joined: 28 Apr 2014 06:38
Contact:

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Fluffy8x » 17 Jan 2018 20:44

shimobaatar wrote:
17 Jan 2018 20:40
I would definitely ask permission in the future, or at least be open to taking down reviews if the creators ask you to. I know that I, personally, wouldn't want to have any of my languages reviewed in this way, and I'm sure I'm not alone. That said, and as you've already seen, I'm sure plenty of conlangers will have no problem with their work being the subject of reviews, so don't be discouraged if a few people say "no". Best of luck with your blog!
Just curious: is there something specific about how I review conlangs that you don't like, or do you not like having your conlangs reviewed in general?
an siina levian t'isorakateez

shimobaatar
korean
korean
Posts: 11710
Joined: 12 Jul 2013 23:09
Location: PA → IN

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by shimobaatar » 17 Jan 2018 20:50

Fluffy8x wrote:
17 Jan 2018 20:44
shimobaatar wrote:
17 Jan 2018 20:40
I would definitely ask permission in the future, or at least be open to taking down reviews if the creators ask you to. I know that I, personally, wouldn't want to have any of my languages reviewed in this way, and I'm sure I'm not alone. That said, and as you've already seen, I'm sure plenty of conlangers will have no problem with their work being the subject of reviews, so don't be discouraged if a few people say "no". Best of luck with your blog!
Just curious: is there something specific about how I review conlangs that you don't like, or do you not like having your conlangs reviewed in general?
Oh, no, sorry, it's nothing personal or about your style of review. It's hard to explain, so I'll just say that when it comes to feedback, I prefer the format of threads on boards like this one. Also, all of the information on my conlangs that's out there at the moment is outdated, and I wouldn't say I'm exactly proud of it.

User avatar
elemtilas
runic
runic
Posts: 3512
Joined: 22 Nov 2014 04:48

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by elemtilas » 17 Jan 2018 23:33

shimobaatar wrote:
17 Jan 2018 19:47
I'm personally not a fan of the sound of the word "clongo" . . . I have never, ever heard anyone use "clongo" as a derogatory term for a woman. I've never heard anyone use it at all, actually.
I agree with you as to gustibuses --- if anything the word "clongo" sounds even worse than "conlang"!

As to the latter, first, I'm glad you haven't heard it used that way before! [:)] I never heard it before seeing it in this thread, either. So naturally, as did you, I looked it up and found that slang reference. To me, that's as good a reason as any to nòt use it in this context.

First of all, no one's ever heard of it, except I guess the folks over at Urban Dictionary. (I did find an obscure reference to "clong" as political slang for a line in a speech that falls flat --- clongo would be an adverbial form and in similarly poor taste for an already misunderstood, often ignored and at times malaligned Art!) So, no one would even know what search term to use to find the reviews in question! And if she did stumble across the blog, she'd naturally look it up and find a rather offensive term.

Just my opinion, but the OP chose perhaps rather less than auspiciously when it came to blog titles!

shimobaatar
korean
korean
Posts: 11710
Joined: 12 Jul 2013 23:09
Location: PA → IN

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by shimobaatar » 17 Jan 2018 23:49

The natural solution would be for one of us board members to make a new entry for "clongo" on Urban Dictionary. [:P]

Khemehekis
mayan
mayan
Posts: 2447
Joined: 14 Aug 2010 09:36
Location: California über alles

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Khemehekis » 18 Jan 2018 03:14

I have a new undertaking with regards to Kankonian today. To find (and fill) gaps in the grammar and lexicon, I've decided to translate my Millennial rock musical The Bittersweet Generation (http://khemehekis.angelfire.com/bittersweetgen.pdf ) into Kankonian. My musical standing at 184 pages, this is quite the undertaking, but I feel Kankonian is robust enough to handle it.
♂♥♂♀

Squirrels chase koi . . . chase squirrels

My Kankonian-English dictionary: 60,137 words and counting

31,416: The number of the conlanging beast!

User avatar
elemtilas
runic
runic
Posts: 3512
Joined: 22 Nov 2014 04:48

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by elemtilas » 18 Jan 2018 03:48

shimobaatar wrote:
17 Jan 2018 23:49
The natural solution would be for one of us board members to make a new entry for "clongo" on Urban Dictionary. [:P]
Please no!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWtYE7k2kSo

User avatar
elemtilas
runic
runic
Posts: 3512
Joined: 22 Nov 2014 04:48

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by elemtilas » 18 Jan 2018 04:01

Khemehekis wrote:
18 Jan 2018 03:14
I have a new undertaking with regards to Kankonian today. To find (and fill) gaps in the grammar and lexicon, I've decided to translate my Millennial rock musical The Bittersweet Generation (http://khemehekis.angelfire.com/bittersweetgen.pdf ) into Kankonian. My musical standing at 184 pages, this is quite the undertaking, but I feel Kankonian is robust enough to handle it.
Great good luck with that project!!

Khemehekis
mayan
mayan
Posts: 2447
Joined: 14 Aug 2010 09:36
Location: California über alles

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Khemehekis » 18 Jan 2018 04:15

elemtilas wrote:
18 Jan 2018 04:01
Great good luck with that project!!
Izar! (Thanks!)

I've already translated the beginning (everything before Act I, Scene 1 gets down to business). See http://khemehekis.angelfire.com/bittersweetgen.pdf for an English translation.

In Kankonian:
Spoiler:
Bombom Tshiudan
Paangmang mui aphas dyu James Landau
Ozuvwi dyu Gordon Hunrick mui James Landau mui John Hensle


Alpore as vainatz kam sas az kam wan shumiras e.
--Voltaire

ZIE

ABOSPAS

Melanie Hayworth
Bryce Schlitter
Paul Moreno
Alan Isaacs
Trina Evangelisti
Sarah Chiang

EVER STORMANES

Meghan Conlan zash meshi ad Melanie
Lindsay Bricker zash meshi ad Melanie
Tony Mazzocco zash tamin na Unfresh
Danny Sanguinetti zash tamin na Unfresh
Chris Blehm zash storman na dand
Kate Kim zash tamin na Unfresh
Tom Pham zash iu*azhom tamin na Unfresh
Rostam Zavvar zash iu*azhom tamin na Unfresh
Helias Christides zash tamin na Unfresh
Nadia Kirschenbaum zash gathik
Jake Cook zash hoghaf
Jocelyn Poirier zash uagis meaduag

KHOROMES

Gary Burdick zash uigard id Inglish
Judy Dahlgren zash uigard id aidispos
Carol Marciniak zash tastedspladikis
Dazirzis Bill Schurz
Dazirzis Sheldon Malinowitz
Kamakhis George H. Pittman
Leremis Graham Forbes
Meidzha Walter Gabelko zash hekhafis ad JROTC
Raúl Moreno zash hoimas ad Paul
Bamleremis Paulina Blumberg
Sanjay Ghosh
Scott Orozco zash uigard id ishantas
Richard Haddad
Lawanor id na Sellers

ASHMUIUKHES

Babaritas na zapoko
Brogas na zapoko
Lotkares khorom e *ihukh
Sharman
Helemas ad Tom Pham
Tamines na Re-17
Helemas ad Shane Gerber
Bein hel horoboses fompi
Piva hel nephus spibui
Bein hel hakamar na khour
Ireri telemas

LASTRIVIO NAOZUVWI

SHIENG ZASH 1
Duzhinires Drom (hali stormanes)
Roshtu (Paul)
Bayis na Benetton (Sarah)
Vudagam na Ort (Alan mui Melanie mui Bryce)
Wir Wahazas Anayal Muye (Melanie mui Bryce)
Baitzit (Trina)
In Huzhus (Bryce)

SHIENG ZASH 2
16, 18, 21 (Melanie mui Bryce mui Paul mui Alan mui Trina mui Sarah)
Emenos Storman (Melanie mui Bryce mui Paul mui Alan mui Trina mui Sarah)
Kirik Karak mui Oelyowo (Melanie)
Badkas Hapatruas (Alan mui Paul)
Kehedio na Eden (Melanie mui Bryce)
Mahan Apayas Ar Hwikizen Hous (Melanie mui Bryce)
Halis As Khatz (Alan mui Trina)
Vudagam na Ort (loiyayar) (Alan)
Meyez Oor Wir (Re-17)

SHIENG ZASH 3
Ziyen hous Stormanes (Pittman mui Orozco mui Blumberg mui Dahlgren mui Paul mui Alan mui Meghan)
Margess ad Ladases (Pittman)
Se (Melanie)
Bowofrez (Sarah)
Zha Telemas na Bayis, Layinet (hali telemas na Dulcevida syeph Blehm)
Zes Mailes das Kampasov (tzailem)
♂♥♂♀

Squirrels chase koi . . . chase squirrels

My Kankonian-English dictionary: 60,137 words and counting

31,416: The number of the conlanging beast!

User avatar
Thrice Xandvii
mongolian
mongolian
Posts: 3722
Joined: 25 Nov 2012 10:13
Location: Carnassus

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Thrice Xandvii » 18 Jan 2018 18:15

I made a new avatar themed toward the forum design and using the Vingdagese character for 37.
Image

User avatar
gestaltist
mayan
mayan
Posts: 1797
Joined: 11 Feb 2015 11:23

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by gestaltist » 19 Jan 2018 00:16

My Nakarian lexicon has reached 70 entries. Not much, but it's something.

Great avatar, Thrice. :)

User avatar
DesEsseintes
mongolian
mongolian
Posts: 4609
Joined: 31 Mar 2013 13:16

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by DesEsseintes » 19 Jan 2018 02:46

gestaltist wrote:
19 Jan 2018 00:16
My Nakarian lexicon has reached 70 entries. Not much, but it's something.

Great avatar, Thrice. :)
The Núta Lexicon has 25 words, disregarding plural formations and variants.

User avatar
Thrice Xandvii
mongolian
mongolian
Posts: 3722
Joined: 25 Nov 2012 10:13
Location: Carnassus

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Thrice Xandvii » 19 Jan 2018 05:45

gestaltist wrote:
19 Jan 2018 00:16
Great avatar, Thrice. :)
Thanks!
Image

Post Reply