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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Frislander » 11 Jan 2019 15:23

Well my IE lang has taken off a bit, and it seems I've gone full Ugric. *l now goes to a voice velar fricative /ɣ/, which contrasts with a new /x/ which doesn't come about by RUKI, and *s now is fully lateralised. I've also gone down full throttle on the aspiration > velarisation shift, and this now interacts with palatalisation, such that "I carry" is now /pɕəɾen/ from bʰéroh2-nu and "I carried" is /pɕəɾɑ/ from *(e)bʰérom (essentially the new past tense is a mix of old imperfects and root aorists, both minus the augment).

So here's an example sentence.

xul ɕəwɑt kŏnim keɕtəjɑt neləsĭn.
xul ɕəw-ɑt kŏne-i-m keɕtəj-ɑt nel-əsĭn
fish eat-ACT.PRT woman-DAT-1s.POSS please-ACT.PRT be_not-3s.PRES
My wife doesn't like eating fish

(Bonus point for those who can spot the Ugric loan).

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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by DesEsseintes » 11 Jan 2019 17:53

For the past 28 hours or so, I’ve been working on a new conlang that I’m calling Project Narwhal until I come up with a proper name. It has some shocking features such as a voicing contrast in stops, /d/, and both of /r l/. It has no fewer than 20 consonants, but only three vowels /a e o/. Here are some words:

láttáw·gaś
rajéw·teyo
kayegewgál·ja
áreyjòlo
hózo

Limestone is also coming along nicely.

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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by gestaltist » 11 Jan 2019 21:56

DesEsseintes wrote:
11 Jan 2019 17:53
new conlang that I’m calling Project Narwhal until I come up with a proper name
Which is never judging by Project Limestone
. It has some shocking features such as a voicing contrast in stops, /d/, and both of /r l/. It has no fewer than 20 consonants, but only three vowels /a e o/. Here are some words:

láttáw·gaś
rajéw·teyo
kayegewgál·ja
áreyjòlo
hózo
Love these forms. Quite different from your usual aesthetic.

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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by DesEsseintes » 12 Jan 2019 02:25

Thanks, gestaltist. [:D]
Frislander wrote:
11 Jan 2019 15:23
xul ɕəwɑt kŏnim keɕtəjɑt neləsĭn.
xul ɕəw-ɑt kŏne-i-m keɕtəj-ɑt nel-əsĭn
fish eat-ACT.PRT woman-DAT-1s.POSS please-ACT.PRT be_not-3s.PRES
My wife doesn't like eating fish

(Bonus point for those who can spot the Ugric loan).
I know very little about Ugric, but I’m guessing the ɕəwɑt is related to Finnish syöda?

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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Khemehekis » 12 Jan 2019 05:16

Frislander wrote:
11 Jan 2019 15:23
Well my IE lang has taken off a bit, and it seems I've gone full Ugric. *l now goes to a voice velar fricative /ɣ/, which contrasts with a new /x/ which doesn't come about by RUKI, and *s now is fully lateralised. I've also gone down full throttle on the aspiration > velarisation shift, and this now interacts with palatalisation, such that "I carry" is now /pɕəɾen/ from bʰéroh2-nu and "I carried" is /pɕəɾɑ/ from *(e)bʰérom (essentially the new past tense is a mix of old imperfects and root aorists, both minus the augment).

So here's an example sentence.

xul ɕəwɑt kŏnim keɕtəjɑt neləsĭn.
xul ɕəw-ɑt kŏne-i-m keɕtəj-ɑt nel-əsĭn
fish eat-ACT.PRT woman-DAT-1s.POSS please-ACT.PRT be_not-3s.PRES
My wife doesn't like eating fish

(Bonus point for those who can spot the Ugric loan).
Is it "xul", the word for fish? Reminds me of words like "hal" and "kal".
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Squirrels chase koi . . . chase squirrels

My Kankonian-English dictionary: 60,137 words and counting

31,416: The number of the conlanging beast!

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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Frislander » 12 Jan 2019 17:15

DesEsseintes wrote:
12 Jan 2019 02:25
I know very little about Ugric, but I’m guessing the ɕəwɑt is related to Finnish syöda?
Nope, it's from PIE *ǵyeuH- "chew", the semantic shift being like Tocharian. syödä according to wiktionary is from Proto-Uralic *sewe-, which gives (across dialects) forms such as tij-/tāj-/täj-/tēŋkwe- in Mansi (I will admit to this language being a bit more Mansi-like than Khanty-like, but either way it's still definitely Ugric and not just general "Uralic" in evidence here).
Khemehekis wrote:
12 Jan 2019 05:16
Is it "xul", the word for fish? Reminds me of words like "hal" and "kal".
Correct! It's based mainly off of Mansi forms like /xuːl/.

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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Ehesh » 12 Jan 2019 23:47

Today I created the numerals 1-9 for my conscript.

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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by elemtilas » 13 Jan 2019 04:50

Ehesh wrote:
12 Jan 2019 23:47
Today I created the numerals 1-9 for my conscript.
Spoiler:
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Nice!

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Post by lsd » 13 Jan 2019 14:31

very exotic excpt for the denary system...

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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Ehesh » 13 Jan 2019 21:04

I am thinking of making it a 12 base that collapsed into 10.

It is very difficult creating a mathematical notation system that is not a relex. And math is by far my forte

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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Khemehekis » 14 Jan 2019 02:12

Frislander wrote:
12 Jan 2019 17:15
Khemehekis wrote:
12 Jan 2019 05:16
Is it "xul", the word for fish? Reminds me of words like "hal" and "kal".
Correct! It's based mainly off of Mansi forms like /xuːl/.
Awesome!

I remember reading a list of words for fish several years back, and I recalled how the Uralic languages had forms like the Hungarian hal, the Finnish kala, and the Vogyl xul.
♂♥♂♀

Squirrels chase koi . . . chase squirrels

My Kankonian-English dictionary: 60,137 words and counting

31,416: The number of the conlanging beast!

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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Frislander » 14 Jan 2019 12:21

Khemehekis wrote:
14 Jan 2019 02:12
Frislander wrote:
12 Jan 2019 17:15
Khemehekis wrote:
12 Jan 2019 05:16
Is it "xul", the word for fish? Reminds me of words like "hal" and "kal".
Correct! It's based mainly off of Mansi forms like /xuːl/.
Awesome!

I remember reading a list of words for fish several years back, and I recalled how the Uralic languages had forms like the Hungarian hal, the Finnish kala, and the Vogyl xul.
Indeed, proto-Uralic *kala - the Ugric forms (Hungarian, Khanty and Mansi/Vogul - those two mean the same) feature their characteristic spirantisation of *k before back vowels, a change which has spread to my IE-lang.

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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Reyzadren » 18 Jan 2019 23:41

I published my 10th griuskant book (1 textbook + 5 translated novels + 4 general fiction), and added it to the bibliography list on frathwiki.
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Post by Keenir » 19 Jan 2019 06:10

I went to hospital for removal of gall bladder mine; and when I woke up, I was pro-dropping everything. Mostly articles and pronouns (then adding one or two later in my statements), but the occasional verb and noun. In hindsight it was fun; at the time, it was probably as close as I've ever come to being woozy.

I'm fine now, in both health and speech. I hope you all are as well.
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by elemtilas » 19 Jan 2019 17:19

Reyzadren wrote:
18 Jan 2019 23:41
I published my 10th griuskant book (1 textbook + 5 translated novels + 4 general fiction), and added it to the bibliography list on frathwiki.
Awesome!

(And thanks for keeping the bibliography updated!)

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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Frislander » 19 Jan 2019 19:01

Well my new Ugricised IE-lang continues to expand, and I now have a proper name for it: Khomsener, from the native term Xŏmsəńər Kele, "Words of the marsh-island people", etymologically from Khanty χŏməs "tree-covered area on a moor" plus PIE *h2ner "man" plus Ugric kel- "word", which of course is related to Finnish kieli "language".

ɣək wəktəm putəpś jəla
sturgeon gut-PPRT pot-INST boil-1SG.PST
Upon gutting the sturgeon I boiled it in the pot

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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Ahzoh » 20 Jan 2019 06:31

Reworked Vrkhazhian nominal derivation system leading to:

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Agent:    C₁uC₂C₃-   / C₁aC₂waC₃
Tool:     NaC₁C₂uC₃e / NaC₁C₂uC₃
Action:   C₁əC₂C₃awe / C₁əC₂C₃u

Patient:  C₁iC₂C₃-   / C₁aC₂yaC₃
Object:   NaC₁C₂iC₃a / NaC₁C₂iC₃
Place:    C₁əC₂C₃aya / C₁əC₂C₃i

Agitator: C₁əC₂C₂uC₃-   / C₁əC₂C₂awaC₃
Concrete: NaC₁əC₂C₂uC₃e / NaC₁əC₂C₂uC₃
Abstract: C₁əC₂C₂uC₃awe / C₁əC₂C₂uC₃u

State:    C₁əC₂taC₃C₃a / C₁əC₂taC₃aC₃
Then I wrote a small passage of some guy describing the founder of Vrkhazh:
"...It was in this year of the 35th day of Nasfiha, that ʾIxmeke, son of Ḳaryap-Mime, gained the favour of the Ssəlya tribe by marrying their leader's beautiful daughter, ʾOša.

With this marriage, ʾIxmeke had united all of the tribes living in the land that he called Yat-Vərxaža (The Great Land), and thus he became ruler of that land and took the name ʾAraš-Hurṗin (Vessel of the Creators).

By ʾOša he fathered seven children; all but two had died in the Demon War. One that survived was his eldest daughter, Šat-Zmira. She became heir to his throne and was renamed as ʾAraš-Hijun (Vessel of the Gods). Shortly after, her father disappeared..."
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Post by bbbourq » 23 Jan 2019 17:26

I am creating a "how-to" guide for Lortho's writing system, dhadakha:
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https://lortho.conlang.org

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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by elemtilas » 23 Jan 2019 18:33

bbbourq wrote:
23 Jan 2019 17:26
I am creating a "how-to" guide for Lortho's writing system, dhadakha:
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Definite yay!!

Lortho's script is, by far, one of favouritest, natural, invented, controlled or otherwise. Definitely in the top five!

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Post by bbbourq » 23 Jan 2019 19:07

elemtilas wrote:
23 Jan 2019 18:33
Definite yay!!

Lortho's script is, by far, one of favouritest, natural, invented, controlled or otherwise. Definitely in the top five!
Aww schucks [:$] Thank you!
https://lortho.conlang.org

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