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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by k1234567890y » 03 Aug 2018 21:22

KaiTheHomoSapien wrote:
03 Aug 2018 21:08
I codified the medio-passive endings in Lihmelinyan. I've been avoiding even getting near the medio-passive voice, but it's time to put on the gloves and work on it :)

Singular: -her, -fer, -tar
Dual: -waza, -htā, -htē
Plural: -maza, -zwe, -rar

sándaher "I wash (myself), I am washed"
sándazwe "you are cleansed"
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Lambuzhao » 04 Aug 2018 14:05

I codified the medio-passive endings in Lihmelinyan. I've been avoiding even getting near the medio-passive voice, but it's time to put on the gloves and work on it :)

Singular: -her, -fer, -tar
Dual: -waza, -htā, -htē
Plural: -maza, -zwe, -rar

sándaher "I wash (myself), I am washed"
sándazwe "you are cleansed"
Nice, indeed! [:)]

Now sándawaza : may it mean 'we washed ourselves' or also 'we washed each other' (¿?)

Will you be considering making some kind of Reciprocal pronoun like :grc: ἀλλήλων, a phrase like :eng: 'one another' or :grc: ἄλλος ἄλλον , or an adverb like :got: misso :?: :wat:

Or will you perhaps tweak the above verbal desinences for Reciprocity?

I'll try not to be too pushy ~ [:x]

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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by KaiTheHomoSapien » 04 Aug 2018 18:19

Thanks guys [:D]

I haven't thought much about reciprocity yet, but I do think the middle, especially the middle dual, can be used in a reciprocal sense. My intent is to eventually have a reciprocal pronoun (which would be used with the middle voice and would avoid ambiguity), though I haven't created one yet.
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by k1234567890y » 04 Aug 2018 20:43

I worte something about the Mata people, the speakers of the Mayato language:

viewtopic.php?f=24&p=280458#p280458
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by elemtilas » 04 Aug 2018 22:46

k1234567890y wrote:
04 Aug 2018 20:43
I worte something about the Mata people, the speakers of the Mayato language:

viewtopic.php?f=24&p=280458#p280458
I had a quick look. It's a good start! And don't worry about basing these folk on a real culture. Ultimately it's not what you copy from the primary world, but what you do with what you copy from the primary world that counts! So, you based the Mata on the Nivkh: take that as a basis and make it your own! Change some things, giving them your wicked little twists and incorporate your own ideas. That's where your creativity will shine.
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by k1234567890y » 04 Aug 2018 23:13

elemtilas wrote:
04 Aug 2018 22:46
k1234567890y wrote:
04 Aug 2018 20:43
I worte something about the Mata people, the speakers of the Mayato language:

viewtopic.php?f=24&p=280458#p280458
I had a quick look. It's a good start! And don't worry about basing these folk on a real culture. Ultimately it's not what you copy from the primary world, but what you do with what you copy from the primary world that counts! So, you based the Mata on the Nivkh: take that as a basis and make it your own! Change some things, giving them your wicked little twists and incorporate your own ideas. That's where your creativity will shine.
ok thanks ;-;
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Ahzoh » 06 Aug 2018 02:21

I have formulated the sound changes from Old Onschen to Modern Onschen:
1a.i) æ ɑ e ø ɤ o > æ̃ ɑ̃ ẽ ø̃ ɤ̃ õ / _n%
1a.ii) æː ɑː eː øː ɤː oː > æ̃ː ɑ̃ː ẽː ø̃ː ɤ̃ː õː / _n%
1b.i) n > 0 / V_%
1b.i) ŋ > n
2a.i) æ ɑ e ø ɤ o > ʲa a ʲe ʲo e o
2a.ii) æː ɑː eː øː ɤː oː > ʲai̯ ai̯ ʲi ʲu i u
2a.iii) æe æø æɤ æo > ʲei̯ ʲoi̯ ei̯ oi̯
2a.iv) ɑe ɑø ɑɤ ɑo > ʲei̯ ʲoi̯ ei̯ oi̯
2a.v) æ̃ ɑ̃ ẽ ø̃ ɤ̃ õ > ʲã ã ʲẽ ʲõ ẽ õ
2a.vi) æ̃ː ɑ̃ː ẽː ø̃ː ɤ̃ː õː > ʲãi̯ ãi̯ ʲĩ ʲũ ĩ ũ
2a.vii) æẽ æø̃ æɤ̃ æõ > ʲẽi̯ ʲõi̯ ẽi̯ õi̯
2a.vii) ɑẽ ɑø̃ ɑɤ̃ ɑõ > ʲẽi̯ ʲõi̯ ẽi̯ õi̯
2b.i) ʲai̯ ai̯ ʲei̯ ei̯ ʲoi̯ oi̯ > ʲe e ʲi i ʲu u / _C%
2b.ii) ʲãi̯ ãi̯ ʲẽi̯ ʲõi̯ ẽi̯ õi̯ > ʲẽ ẽ ʲĩ ʲũ ĩ ũ / _C%
2c) ʲã ã ʲãi̯ ãi̯ > ʲẽ ẽ ʲẽi̯ ẽi̯
2d) ʲĩ ʲũ ĩ ũ > ʲẽ ʲõ ẽ õ
3a) ʲẽ ʲõ ẽ õ > ʲẽː ʲõː ẽː õː
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Post by felipesnark » 06 Aug 2018 02:46

Slowly working on my new project Denkurian:

Gita bach na genca shak bebemut.
Git-a ba-ch n-a genca sh-a-k be~bemu-t
this.INAM-F be-3SG DEF-F fish REL-F-ACC PST~catch.PST-1SG
This is the fish that I caught.
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Lao Kou » 06 Aug 2018 08:46

Pulled Japoné語 out of mothballs and added three words: carob, locust, and foghorn.
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by DesEsseintes » 06 Aug 2018 09:15

Lao Kou wrote:
06 Aug 2018 08:46
Pulled Japoné語 out of mothballs and added three words: carob, locust, and foghorn.
Inago, inago...

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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Lao Kou » 06 Aug 2018 10:21

DesEsseintes wrote:
06 Aug 2018 09:15
Lao Kou wrote:
06 Aug 2018 08:46
Pulled Japoné語 out of mothballs and added three words: carob, locust, and foghorn.
Inago, inago...
稲子豆 inagaumamée - carob
稲子/蝗 inagaue - locust
霧笛 moutéquie - foghorn

(Bringing the English dictionary count to 666 [}:D])
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Post by k1234567890y » 06 Aug 2018 10:42

I started a new conlang project called Culet...which is a verb-initial language with Austronesian alignment and Semitic root...

Also, Culet is geneologically related to Mayato MK2 and I plan to make the Cu people(speakers of Culet) the source of "civilization" and provided Mata people(speakers of Mayato) in the past and Mata people learnt writing from the Cu people, Cu people had complex societies muc earlier due to a more friendly climate of their homeland.

The climate of the homeland of the Mata people(Matamre) has a climate similar to Manchuria and Russian Far East; the climate of the homeland of the Cu people is more similar to the North China Plain and the Yangtze Plain of China.
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by elemtilas » 06 Aug 2018 12:42

Lao Kou wrote:
06 Aug 2018 10:21
DesEsseintes wrote:
06 Aug 2018 09:15
Lao Kou wrote:
06 Aug 2018 08:46
Pulled Japoné語 out of mothballs and added three words: carob, locust, and foghorn.
Inago, inago...
稲子豆 inagaumamée - carob
稲子/蝗 inagaue - locust
霧笛 moutéquie - foghorn
. . . leghorn?
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Lao Kou » 06 Aug 2018 13:23

elemtilas wrote:
06 Aug 2018 12:42
Lao Kou wrote:
06 Aug 2018 10:21
霧笛 moutéquie - foghorn
. . . leghorn?
Ah no, I say, no suh.

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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by ixals » 06 Aug 2018 17:37

I was bored and made a little celticised romlang.

El gclobh dtodzhorn lha vféthar ábht dha shobar.
/el glu dodʒorn ɬa veːθar aːt ða hobar/
[e̞ɫ ˈglu do̞ˈdʒo̞ːn ɬə ˈve̞ːθ.r‿aːtθ ho̞ˈbaː]

"She always closes the window before dining."

Pod-thu bpálar bplu chlarmhét ?
/pod θi baːlar bli xlarβeːt/
[ˈpo̞.d͡ði baˈlaː bli xlaˈβe̞ːt ↗]

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Post by WeepingElf » 06 Aug 2018 18:03

I often find the answer to a conlang design question late at night while waiting to fall asleep. Last night, I got an idea of how tones work in Lo Dang, a monosyllabic, isolating and tonal IE language spoken in northwestern China. Lo Dang has six tones - low, high, falling, rising, falling-rising and rising-falling. These tones arise from up to three "tone components", associated with the onset, nucleus and coda. The syllable nucleus (the vowel) always contribute one, L or H, according to the ablaut grade it had in PIE: e-grade gives H, o-grade gives L. I don't know yet about zero grade, but it probably gives L, too. The onset contributes either L or H, or nothing. Likewise, the coda. The list of which onsets and codas give which tone components is yet to be determined. This results in 14 different possibilities of tone component strings, which give the six tones as follows:

L > low
H > high
LL > low
LH > rising
HL > falling
HH > high
LLL > low
LLH > rising
LHL > rising-falling
LHH > rising
HLL > falling
HLH > falling-rising
HHL > falling
HHH > high
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Creyeditor » 06 Aug 2018 18:35

An idea for the zero grade: how about making it toneless. Tone languages often have toneless syllables that get their tone from somewhere else. You could argue that the zero grade gives you just the tonal combination of onset+coda then, or only one of them if the other one is missing. If there would be no tone at all in a syllable (you could add that as 0 to your list of possible tone component strings) the syllable gets the last tone component of the preceding syllable, i.e. low after low/falling/rising-falling and high after high/rising/falling-rising. Sequences of toneless syllables would get their tone from the preceding syllable, spread out over several otherwise toneless syllables. Initially these toneless syllables might get a default low tone. Just an idea on how to keep o-grade and zero-grade differentiated.
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Post by WeepingElf » 06 Aug 2018 19:53

Creyeditor wrote:
06 Aug 2018 18:35
An idea for the zero grade: how about making it toneless. Tone languages often have toneless syllables that get their tone from somewhere else. You could argue that the zero grade gives you just the tonal combination of onset+coda then, or only one of them if the other one is missing. If there would be no tone at all in a syllable (you could add that as 0 to your list of possible tone component strings) the syllable gets the last tone component of the preceding syllable, i.e. low after low/falling/rising-falling and high after high/rising/falling-rising. Sequences of toneless syllables would get their tone from the preceding syllable, spread out over several otherwise toneless syllables. Initially these toneless syllables might get a default low tone. Just an idea on how to keep o-grade and zero-grade differentiated.
Thank you! That should work. As I see it, there are not many syllables that have zero grade but neither onset or coda.
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by shimobaatar » 06 Aug 2018 21:09

(Post #9992.)
Lao Kou wrote:
06 Aug 2018 10:21
DesEsseintes wrote:
06 Aug 2018 09:15
Lao Kou wrote:
06 Aug 2018 08:46
Pulled Japoné語 out of mothballs and added three words: carob, locust, and foghorn.
Inago, inago...
稲子豆 inagaumamée - carob
稲子/蝗 inagaue - locust
霧笛 moutéquie - foghorn

(Bringing the English dictionary count to 666 [}:D])
So nice to see Japoné語 again, even if the Beast is tagging along!

ixals wrote:
06 Aug 2018 17:37
I was bored and made a little celticised romlang.
Looks like a nice start to me!
ixals wrote:
06 Aug 2018 17:37
El gclobh dtodzhorn lha vféthar ábht dha shobar.
/el glu dodʒorn ɬa veːθar aːt ða hobar/
[e̞ɫ ˈglu do̞ˈdʒo̞ːn ɬə ˈve̞ːθ.r‿aːtθ ho̞ˈbaː]

"She always closes the window before dining."
Ah, a classic.

WeepingElf wrote:
06 Aug 2018 18:03
I often find the answer to a conlang design question late at night while waiting to fall asleep.
Same here. I also get a lot of my ideas in the shower, which can be quite inconvenient as well.
WeepingElf wrote:
06 Aug 2018 18:03
Last night, I got an idea of how tones work in Lo Dang, a monosyllabic, isolating and tonal IE language spoken in northwestern China.
Sounds like a cool project! Given the language's location, is there any close relation to Tocharian (apart from both being Indo-European)? What's the etymology of the language's name, if I might ask?

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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Keenir2 » 06 Aug 2018 23:07

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tried to work out how the Classical Greek words "nix" / "nyx" would evolve if given an island where they'd go nuts from sheer isolation have the place to themselves for forever and all time (*g*)...thus far, its at [nytS] / [nAs] though I'm not wild about either.

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