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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Posted: 11 Aug 2014 18:49
by DesEsseintes
Reading about Blackfoot, I now have some ideas for pronominal agreement endings for Enello. Maybe I'll revive it. We'll see. [:)]

Furthermore, I now fancy making another highly agglutinative lang with the same inventory as Blackfoot with the sole addition of /ɬ/.

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Posted: 11 Aug 2014 22:16
by Lambuzhao
Ahzoh wrote:I decided to get rid of the uvularized /s z/ in my phonemic inventory. Too difficult to pronounce. They ended up sound like sequences of /sX/ and /zX/.

Also, I came up with a weird sentence:
čak čadad čar-jīmnatam
some cow-PL PST=run-JUSS-PL
some cows had to run.
The sentence is almost alliterative...
ʾīšar čad jīmnat.
this cow run-JUSS
This cow has to run.
What's so weird about these sentences? The cows were on fire, weren't they?

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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Posted: 11 Aug 2014 23:05
by Ahzoh
It's weird because there are three successive words starting with "ča" and the roots are monosyllabic, namely; čak čad čar.

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Posted: 12 Aug 2014 07:15
by Ahzoh
Today, I decided to phonetically realize my pre-aspirated nasals as simply voiceless nasals, however, they are still phonemically pre-aspirated

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Posted: 13 Aug 2014 04:14
by taylorS
Fleshed out Future English's Tense-Aspect-Mood-Voice system:

V = the verb root
Ø = zero morpheme

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TAM Active    | Perfective | Imperfective |
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Realis NPST   | Ø-V-Ø      | Ø-V-n        |
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Realist PST   | f-V-Ø      | vàs-V-n      |
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Irrealis NPST | ya-V-Ø     | ya-V-n       |
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Irrealis PST  | d-V-Ø      | d-V-n        |
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TAM Passive   | Perfective | Imperfective |
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Realis NPST   | gá'-V-Ø    | gá'-V-n      |
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Realist PST   | ffá'-V-Ø   | vàssá'-V-n   |
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Irrealis NPST | yáá'-V-Ø   | yáá'-V-n     |
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Irrealis PST  | ddá'-V-Ø   | ddá'-V-n     |
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Posted: 13 Aug 2014 16:11
by lhykv
I am building up my lexicon as well as developing the prefix system.

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Posted: 15 Aug 2014 02:39
by thaen
DesEsseintes wrote:Reading about Blackfoot, I now have some ideas for pronominal agreement endings for Enello. Maybe I'll revive it. We'll see. [:)]

Furthermore, I now fancy making another highly agglutinative lang with the same inventory as Blackfoot with the sole addition of /ɬ/.
Thanks to you, I looked up Blackfoot. And I will steal harvest use some of the features there. :mrgreen:

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Posted: 16 Aug 2014 00:59
by Egerius
I have expanded the Proto-Umbric page in the Teles-Wiki and I have a faint about the Proto-Umbric word for ‘to be‘: *h2es- /aːs/ or *h2ejs- /aːis/.

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Posted: 16 Aug 2014 03:32
by Ahzoh
I made some roots for colour words:
Black = q-ẕ-d (from qẕad 'onyx')
Red = z-w-l (from zūl 'earth')
Crimson = ḏ-y-m (fromḏīm 'blood')
Yellow = h-q-l (from hīqal 'sun')
Turquoise = m-ḵ-b (what could this come from?)
Blue = q-w-h (from qaẇwa 'sky')

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Posted: 16 Aug 2014 03:35
by shimobaatar
I could imagine turquoise coming from words having to do with either water or some kind of gemstone.

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Posted: 16 Aug 2014 03:37
by Ahzoh
shimobaatar wrote:I could imagine turquoise coming from words having to do with either water or some kind of gemstone.
Or it could come from the French word for "Turkish" [xD]

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Posted: 16 Aug 2014 03:38
by shimobaatar
Ahzoh wrote:
shimobaatar wrote:I could imagine turquoise coming from words having to do with either water or some kind of gemstone.
Or it could come from the French word for "Turkish" [xD]
It most certainly could. [:)] But how would your conpeople get to France, I wonder?

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Posted: 16 Aug 2014 03:40
by Lao Kou
shimobaatar wrote:I could imagine turquoise coming from words having to do with either water or some kind of gemstone.
Like, say, turquoise? ("onyx" is already in the mix, so why not? Don't know if that pulls the conculture in weird directions.).

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Posted: 16 Aug 2014 03:45
by Ahzoh
Lao Kou wrote:
shimobaatar wrote:I could imagine turquoise coming from words having to do with either water or some kind of gemstone.
Like, say, turquoise? ("onyx" is already in the mix, so why not? Don't know if that pulls the conculture in weird directions.).
I don't think "turquoise" the gemstone can be found in my concountry. Though, maybe it is. I don't know the geographic prevalence of gemstones in desert regions.

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Posted: 16 Aug 2014 03:46
by shimobaatar
Lao Kou wrote:
shimobaatar wrote:I could imagine turquoise coming from words having to do with either water or some kind of gemstone.
Like, say, turquoise? ("onyx" is already in the mix, so why not? Don't know if that pulls the conculture in weird directions.).
Yeah, I wanted to be less specific than just saying "the gemstone turquoise" because I don't know much about their conculture/congeography.

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Posted: 16 Aug 2014 03:51
by Ahzoh
shimobaatar wrote:
Lao Kou wrote:
shimobaatar wrote:I could imagine turquoise coming from words having to do with either water or some kind of gemstone.
Like, say, turquoise? ("onyx" is already in the mix, so why not? Don't know if that pulls the conculture in weird directions.).
Yeah, I wanted to be less specific than just saying "the gemstone turquoise" because I don't know much about their conculture/congeography.
It's a desert region, why the hell not. It apparently existed in Ancient Egypt.
I'll make the word mūḵeb.

Now, I'm wondering what could be a suitable word stem for colours.

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Posted: 16 Aug 2014 03:53
by shimobaatar
Ahzoh wrote:
Lao Kou wrote:
shimobaatar wrote:I could imagine turquoise coming from words having to do with either water or some kind of gemstone.
Like, say, turquoise? ("onyx" is already in the mix, so why not? Don't know if that pulls the conculture in weird directions.).
I don't think "turquoise" the gemstone can be found in my concountry.
According to Wikipedia (not saying it's the best source, but…), turquoise has been found in parts of Earth's Middle East (Iran and the Sinai Peninsula, specifically), so if you're basing your concountry/congeography/congeology/conwhatever off of the Middle East as much as you're basing your conlang off the Semitic languages (just a note: I'm not trying to say it's a bad thing that parts of your conlang were inspired by Semitic), then I might consider having turquoise be found in your concountry.
Edit: Whoops, posted this a little too late.

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Posted: 16 Aug 2014 03:55
by Ahzoh
shimobaatar wrote:
Ahzoh wrote:
Lao Kou wrote:
shimobaatar wrote:I could imagine turquoise coming from words having to do with either water or some kind of gemstone.
Like, say, turquoise? ("onyx" is already in the mix, so why not? Don't know if that pulls the conculture in weird directions.).
I don't think "turquoise" the gemstone can be found in my concountry.
According to Wikipedia (not saying it's the best source, but…), turquoise has been found in parts of Earth's Middle East (Iran and the Sinai Peninsula, specifically), so if you're basing your concountry/congeography/congeology/conwhatever off of the Middle East as much as you're basing your conlang off the Semitic languages (just a note: I'm not trying to say it's a bad thing that parts of your conlang were inspired by Semitic), then I might consider having turquoise be found in your concountry.
Edit: Whoops, posted this a little too late.
Still good information.
I should say to you now that I am basing my coneverything on desert regions and desert peoples and desert languages. I have always been fascinated by deserts, and the nomadic peoples that traverse them. I also like ancient civilizations like Akkad and Egypt. I try to generalize my influences, but I'm more familiar with Hebrew, Akkadian and Arabic.

Just for future reference.

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Posted: 16 Aug 2014 05:05
by Lao Kou
shimobaatar wrote:if you're basing your concountry/congeography/congeology/conwhatever off of the Middle East as much as you're basing your conlang off the Semitic languages, then I might consider having turquoise be found in your concountry.
Particularly if turquoise makes the first cut on your lang's color wheel and you're going to have a color root word that distinguishes it from (sky) blue,
Ahzoh wrote:Turquoise = m-ḵ-b (mūḵeb 'turquoise')
Blue = q-w-h (from qaẇwa 'sky')
which to my eye is the difference of the slightest dash of green to the former.

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Posted: 16 Aug 2014 05:10
by Ahzoh
Lao Kou wrote:
shimobaatar wrote:if you're basing your concountry/congeography/congeology/conwhatever off of the Middle East as much as you're basing your conlang off the Semitic languages, then I might consider having turquoise be found in your concountry.
Particularly if turquoise makes the first cut on your lang's color wheel and you're going to have a color root word that distinguishes it from (sky) blue,
Ahzoh wrote:Turquoise = m-ḵ-b (mūḵeb 'turquoise')
Blue = q-w-h (from qaẇwa 'sky')
which to my eye is the difference of the slightest dash of green to the former.
Not to me, however. I perceive turquoise to be as different from green and blue as red is from yellow.
My language also makes the basic categorical distinction between the colour of blood (crimson) and a "perfect" red(I do not know to what degree of nm.)