Guess the Word in Romlangs

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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Post by Jackk » 06 May 2019 19:09

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Was it a second declension noun?
No, first declension. (both in Classical Latin and, slightly altered, in Vulgar Latin)
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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Post by shimobaatar » 06 May 2019 19:15

Hmm…

Were <p> and <r> both present in the Classical Latin ancestor of the word?

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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Post by Jackk » 06 May 2019 19:15

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Hmm…

Were <p> and <r> both present in the Classical Latin ancestor of the word?
[cross] No, just the <p>.
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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Post by shimobaatar » 06 May 2019 23:03

Does the <r> correspond to a sonorant in Classical Latin?

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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Post by Jackk » 06 May 2019 23:08

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Does the <r> correspond to a sonorant in Classical Latin?
[cross] The <r> was a later addition not present at all in Latin, added through the influence of a nonRomance word
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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Post by shimobaatar » 06 May 2019 23:18

Oh, I see. I thought the influence was only in meaning.

Did the first syllable of the Classical Latin word contain a short, rounded vowel?

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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Post by Jackk » 06 May 2019 23:20

shimobaatar wrote:
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Oh, I see. I thought the influence was only in meaning.

Did the first syllable of the Classical Latin word contain a short, rounded vowel?
Ah - sorry for not clarifying [:D]

[cross] No, a long one.
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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Post by shimobaatar » 06 May 2019 23:25

Oh, no worries.

Was the vowel <ō>?

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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Post by Jackk » 06 May 2019 23:25

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Oh, no worries.

Was the vowel <ō>?
[cross] <ū>
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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Post by shimobaatar » 07 May 2019 19:11

Is it from Classical Latin cūpa?

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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Post by Jackk » 07 May 2019 19:12

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Is it from Classical Latin cūpa?
[tick] Correct! [:D]
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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Post by shimobaatar » 15 May 2019 21:03

Was the word that influenced it from a Germanic language?

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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Post by Jackk » 16 May 2019 06:49

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Was the word that influenced it from a Germanic language?
[tick] Yep, although I have just read that said Germanic word was itself basically borrowed from cūpa, lol. How very incestuous...
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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Post by Jackk » 16 May 2019 18:47

shimobaatar wrote:
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*kuppaz?
Yep [tick] Oh look:
Wiktionary wrote:Note: Descendants of this word were influenced by or conflated with unrelated Latin cūpa, a word of similar form and meaning.
[:D]
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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Post by shimobaatar » 16 May 2019 18:50

Jackk wrote:
16 May 2019 18:47
Wiktionary wrote:Note: Descendants of this word were influenced by or conflated with unrelated Latin cūpa, a word of similar form and meaning.
[:D]
Haha, yeah, that's what tipped me off. [:P]

Does it mean "head"?

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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Post by Jackk » 16 May 2019 19:56

shimobaatar wrote:
16 May 2019 18:50
Jackk wrote:
16 May 2019 18:47
Wiktionary wrote:Note: Descendants of this word were influenced by or conflated with unrelated Latin cūpa, a word of similar form and meaning.
[:D]
Haha, yeah, that's what tipped me off. [:P]

Does it mean "head"?
[cross] It does not. Hint: the meaning goes with the meaning of aiðabr. [:)]
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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Post by shimobaatar » 16 May 2019 20:19

Oh, I can’t believe that slipped my mind.

“cup and bowl”?

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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Post by Jackk » 16 May 2019 20:35

shimobaatar wrote:
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Oh, I can’t believe that slipped my mind.

“cup and bowl”?
[tick] [cross] Very close! :D

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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Post by shimobaatar » 16 May 2019 20:43

“cup and plate/dish”?

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