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Re: Affixes hatred

Post by Prinsessa » 07 Apr 2012 11:02

Ceresz wrote:Ballen, haha. You know what that means in Swedish, right [:P]?
Since the Norwegian word he used is from ball and not balle it doesn't have the same pitch accent as Swedish ballen (which, for comparison, doesn't have the same pitch accent as Swedish bollen), so they can't really be mixed upp in speech anyway.

Also, don't forget that balle means buttocks in Scania.

Let's also not forget that nobody actually says ballen in Sweden because it's the dorkiest word ever!*

* Unfortunately, lots of people in certain places do. :_:

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Re: Affixes hatred

Post by MrKrov » 24 Jun 2012 00:59

:con: Pag-buum
K'ip nim ta̤s sum nim sep hap nim selk.
/kʰip nim təs sum nim sep xap nim selk/
run DEF girl go.around DEF tree kick DEF ball
The girl ran around the tree and kicked the ball.

Nine words, nine syllables, isolating.
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Re: Affixes hatred

Post by Ilaeriu » 24 Jun 2012 07:39

(I hope you don't mind if I re-do the Korean.)

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소년이 나무 주위에서 달리고 공을 찼어요.
sonyeon-i namu juwi-eseo dalli-go gong-eul chass-eoyo
girl-SUBJ tree around-LOCATION.ACTION run-and ball-OBJ kick-PRES.POLITE
The girl ran around the tree and kicked the ball.

6 words, 17 syllables. Heavily agglutinative.
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Re: Affixes hatred

Post by Nortaneous » 24 Jun 2012 12:52

The girl ran around the tree and kicked the ball.

Kannow (polysynthetic):
Hecqptàkŗùnr roņekàmcpakr lŗotʼóŗ.
[heçqftʷɔxrʷuɳɖʐ ɖʐəɲekʷʰɔmçpɑxʂ ɮrətʼəo̯rʷ]
hec-ģ`-ptàk-ŗùn-r ro-ņe-kàmc-pag-r lŗotʼ-ŗ`
INFER.NRPAST-around-tree-run-C2.A.SG NONF.PAST-LOC-ball-kick-C2.A.SG girl-C2.DEF
Three words, nine syllables.

Arve (historically isolating, beginning to shift toward agglutinativity):
Tegnar gou löyn rei kes tjenn, je kes tegnar pack grout.
[t͡seŋ ɡʊ lø̃y̯ rʌi̯ çɪ cʌ̃n jɪ çeŋɐ pʌʔ ʀɔu̯ʔ]
PST-3S around tree run girl and 3S\PST-3S kick ball
As spoken, nine words, eleven syllables. As written, eleven words, thirteen syllables.

Cherun (isolating):
Jieh saa llid ger tod herllyd ban.
[ci̤ə̯ sɑː ɬʲiʔ ŋe˞ː toʔ hḛ˞ːɬʲ pˠã]
girl do run go_around tree kick-SBJZ ball
Seven words, seven syllables, eleven morae.

Insular Kett: (slightly agglutinative)
Héman léyen cal ḩaréit em pángri ḩapéyst.
[ˈχɛmɐn ˈɫɵɥɵn dzɐɫ hɐˈrɪjtɕ ɪm ˈpʰaŋʑi hɐˈpɵɥst]
girl=TOP tree=around PST-run-ACT and ball PST-kick-ACT
Six or seven words, twelve syllables.

Continental Kett: (slightly agglutinative)
Hénm lýň co mrííč pánci mýst.
[hénm ly̋n dzô mɾǐi̋tʃ pǎndzî mýst]
girl<TOP> tree=around PST-run-ACT ball PST\kick-ACT
Five or six words, eight syllables.

I'm kind of surprised that these are all so concise. Part of it might be that none of my langs have definite articles (although I'm considering adding some to Cherun), but I would've expected at least Insular Kett to be longer. Arve normally looks pretty long, but it doesn't allow more than one unstressed syllable in a row, so it'll occasionally drop syllables altogether. And it'll get longer once I add more particles, since it likes forcing everything into trochees.

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Re: Affixes hatred

Post by Maraxxus » 24 Jun 2012 14:40

The girl ran around the tree and kicked the ball.

:con: Maxédri:
Leb deman leb damálWyTirkestqéz te leb móxUyluqéz.
DEF.ART girl DEF.ART tree-around-run3SG-PST and DEF.ART sphere-kick-3SG-PST

10 words, 16 syllables.

:con: Faljüdax:
DippaLe mubotLe wes fukasikays teh utraLe iklinikays.
girl-DEF.ART tree-DEF.ART around run-3SG-PST and sphere-DEF.ART kick-3SG-PST

7 words, 19 syllables.
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Re: Affixes hatred

Post by CMunk » 24 Jun 2012 15:23

Skógvur wrote:
Ceresz wrote:Ballen, haha. You know what that means in Swedish, right [:P]?
[...]Also, don't forget that balle means buttocks in Scania.[...]
Oh, it means buttocks in Danish too. What does it mean in (standard) Swedish and Norwegian then?
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Re: Affixes hatred

Post by Ceresz » 24 Jun 2012 17:17

Stop being silly, Skógvur.
CMunk wrote: Oh, it means buttocks in Danish too. What does it mean in (standard) Swedish and Norwegian then?
From Wiktionary:
  • (vardagligt) penis
    (vardagligt) testikel, ofta i plural
    (sydsvenskt dialektalt) skinka (i betydelsen en halva av rumpan, ej styckningsdetaljen skinka hos gris), gump
    en del av hoven på en häst

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Re: Affixes hatred

Post by Ear of the Sphinx » 24 Jun 2012 18:33

Some interactive graphs I've made up:
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Re: Affixes hatred

Post by Chagen » 24 Jun 2012 19:58

:con:Pazmat:

"Gjmc Nkīdh fistglezjtha n Zaltos irwazjtha."
[girl tree-LOC around-run-PST-3.SG.F and ball-ACC kick-PST-3.SG.F]

6 words, 12 syllables. Extremely synthetic.
Nūdenku waga honji ma naku honyasi ne ika-ika ichamase!
female-appearance=despite boy-voice=PAT hold boy-youth=TOP very be.cute-3PL
Honyasi zō honyasi ma naidasu.
boy-youth=AGT boy-youth=PAT love.romantically-3S

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Re: Affixes hatred

Post by Lambuzhao » 26 Jun 2012 19:44

Historical Present as Past (gracias Skogkvur!)

:con: Rozwi -


yō`ai yaza obol θičlman šeltēk

[girl CO around tree.GEN run-3SG]
/jɔ:.ʔɒj jɒ.zɒ ʔo.bol θɪ.ʧəl.mɒn ʃel.tɛ:k/
A girl both around a tree runs

a qerænek qiqšiθauθ.
[CO kick-3SG ball.ACC]
/ɒ qə.ræ.nɛ:k qyq.ʃi.θɒʊθ/
and kicks a ball.

8 wds, 18 syll. fusional

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Re: Affixes hatred

Post by Lambuzhao » 26 Jun 2012 20:02

:con: Sadraas-

Qarod þe Joungeße ründt ye Trun
[run.PAST DEF.f.NOM maiden around DEF.n.OBJ tree]
/qa.ʀɒd θə jaʊŋ.ge.sə ʀynt jə tʀun/
ran the girl around the tree

Ent küched ye Bællen.
[CO kick.PAST DEF.n.OBJ ball]
/ent ky.ɣəd jə bɛ:.lən/
and kicked (she) the ball


10 wds. 15 syll. – slight fusional

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Re: Affixes hatred

Post by taylorS » 27 Jun 2012 03:11

Mekoshan, Highly Fusional

Širen lél ciga ronné tsre dlan šivkaik lél bó
[ˈʃɪʁɛn leːlˈʧˈiɡɑ ʁɔnːeːˈʦʰχɛ dlan ˈʃifkʰai̯cʰ leːlˈboː]
ši-ren lél=ciga ronné=tsre dlan ši-v-kaikh-t lél=bó
3SG.F-run.AOR DEF.ERG=girl around.DEF=tree and.then 3SG.F-AOR-run-AOR DEF.ERG=ball

6 words (clitics don't count as separate words)
13 syllables

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Re: Affixes hatred

Post by Hacek » 23 Sep 2012 00:38

Novun lùsidà sakdra ąŕų ją hŕęn posút. :con: Vharun, 7 words, 13 syllables. Agglutinating.
[noβʷũn lʷu˩ʂidɐ˩ sakdrɐ ɔɾʷʊ ʝɔ ɾ̥ɛ̃n posʷu˥t]
novu-n lùsidà sak-dra ąŕų ją hŕę-n posú-t
run-IND girl tree-LOC around and kick-IND ball-ACC.IN


Βάλιϥάς ϩύλό παρι δὰῠϥι σέϩ καωδουϩαω πάδαμίῠϥι. :con: Swallonian, 7 words, 17 syllables. Fusional.
Bálifás hűlau pari dàvfi saih kãduhã pádamívfi.
[ˈbaːlɪfaːs ˈɦyːlɔː ˈpari ˈdɑːʋfi sai̯ːɦ ˈkɑ̃dʊɦɐ̃ paːˈdamiːʋfi]
bálifá-s hűle-au pari dàv-fi saih kãduh-ã pádamív-fi
girl-NOM.F tree-LOC.F around run-3SG.PRES.IND and ball-ACC.M kick-3SG.PRES.IND


लड़की पेड़ चारों ओर दौड़ी और गेंद लात मारी. :hin: Hindi, 9 words, 13 syllables.
laṛkī peṛ cāroṁ or dauṛī aur gend lāt mārī.
laṛkī peṛ cāroṁ.or dauṛ-ī aur gend lāt.mār-ī
girl tree around run-PST.F and ball kick-PST.F
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Re: Affixes hatred

Post by Creyeditor » 23 Sep 2012 12:18

Das Mädchen rannte um den Baum und schoss den Ball. 10 words, 12 syllables :deu: German, fusional

Ma klatshof nol dent mut tis tsip ta kruf. 9 words, 10 syllables
:con: Pøplish, isolating
[ma ˈklatʃɔf nɔl dɛnt mut tis tsip ta kruf]
FEM child walk LOC tree and foot OBJ ball
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Re: Affixes hatred

Post by Batailleur » 23 Sep 2012 14:39

:con: Veletan

Vo'tsamsecuzl netferugm halutl niluzluvj tilro'xugm jumvo'tutl.
[vœtsamsɛkuzl nɛtfɛrugm halutl niluzluvʒ tilrœʃugm ʒumvœtutl]
circle.speed.go.RCNT-PST child.female.ERG tree.ABS hit.RCNT-PST.COM one.3rd-PRS-SNG.ERG nonabstract.circle.ABS
Ran-around girl tree kick-and she ball.

6 words, 17 syllables - Agglutinative.
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Re: Affixes hatred

Post by Click » 01 Oct 2012 14:06

:con: Jke ur ng (Chȫng), mildly agglutinative

Stab sk ba y koong fep sk a tre b j yaa. - 7 syllables
Ca vāi kōng fé háthe jā.
/ʦʰà βâî̯ kʰôŋ fé xá.ʈʰè ʨā/
[ʦʰà ɸâî̯ kʰɔ̃̂ŋ fé xɑ́.ʈè ʨā]
stab sk-ba-y koong fep sk-atre-b j-yaa
Ca h-pà-◌̂i kōong fé h-áthè-◌ zh=yāa
tree PRF-run-around girl and PRF-kick-3SG.ANIM ACC=ball
The girl ran around the tree and kicked the ball.
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Re: Affixes hatred

Post by kiwikami » 02 Oct 2012 00:36

:con:Pa Co Tseng Fe Cun

Hei mun kwe po pim slaing pei noin tang kwe pi hai skam pu slain.

female child-[noun] PST speed move-[verb] circle-[modifier] height plant-[noun] and-[modifier] PST move part strike-[verb] play circle-[noun]
The girl ran around the tree and kicked the ball.

15 words, 15 syllables - Isolating

Should really do this for HyPry. Too darn busy. But the sheer number of words... yes. I will do it. Eventually.
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Re: Affixes hatred

Post by Ossicone » 02 Oct 2012 00:54

:con: Uskra:
Nimuk hipi aniskai pun nai śimur na nikum humra aprar.
10 words, 18 syllables.
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nima      hipi  aniska-i    pun     nai  śim-ur
be.3.PST  run   girl-DEF.A  circle  on   tree-DEF.LOC 

na   nikum           humra  aprar
and  have-3A.OP.PST  kick   ball

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Re: Affixes hatred

Post by Click » 02 Oct 2012 14:01

Ossicone wrote:Nimuk...
Spoiler:
nima
be.3.PST
Shouldn't nimuk be written in the gloss instead of nima?

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Re: Affixes hatred

Post by Jackk » 02 Oct 2012 17:01

:con: Chudihr - moderately fusional

deinaol şuigheis ainfai adech eşu sifemi punkalkeis.
deina<o>l şuigh-eis ain-fai adech eşu sife<m>-i punkalk-eis.
/dejnawl ʂwiɰejθ ajnɸaj adex eʂu θiɸemi puŋkalkejθ/
girl<DEF> run-3s.PERF tree-DEF.ACC around and ball-<DEF>-ACC kick-3s.PERF
The girl ran around the tree and kicked the ball.

16 syllables, 7 words

:con:-descendant: Chüi Baris

denau o enf aechs şuigets eşon sivri em punkauks.
denau o en-f aech-s şuig-ets eşon sivr-i em punkauk-s.
/denɔ: ɛ̃f aːxs ʃygets eʒɔ̃ sivʀjɛ̃ pɔ̃kɔks/
girl DEF tree-ACC around-3s.PERF run-ADV and.DUR ball-ACC DEF kick-3s.PERF
The girl ran around the tree and kicked the ball.

12 syllables, 9 words
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