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Re: Why are you hitting yourself?

Posted: 30 Nov 2014 02:46
by Kungavmorka
Click wrote::con: Areyatta

As wh-movement is optional in Areyatta, there are two different ways this sentence can be translated into it. Of course, one includes wh-movement, and the other one does not.
  • Keva tšıgána zen?
    ke·va tšıgán·na zen
    DAT·what hit·2SG REFL
    Why are you hitting yourself?
  • Tšigána zen keva?
    tšıgán·na zen ke·va
    hit·2SG REFL DAT·what
    Why are you hitting yourself?
I haven’t decided yet whether to keep the person suffixes or not, tell me. [:)]
Honestly up to you, but a good language to look at that doesn't conjugate verbs on person would be swedish. That's where i derived my inspiration for Koharteti, but my language is more of an analytic one. I don't see a problem with it but i can't say much from one sentence.

Re: Why are you hitting yourself?

Posted: 06 Dec 2014 15:51
by Xing
Xing:

Dinni xemme kaja mone?
hit 2s.REFL do what
/tinːi ʃemːe kʰat͡ʃa mone/
[ˈtinːɪ ˈʃemːɛ ˈkʰaːt͡ʃɐ ˈmoːnɛ]

Kaja mone dinni xemme?
do what hit 2s.REFL
/kʰat͡ʃa mone tinːi ʃemːe/
[ˈkʰaːt͡ʃɐ ˈmoːnɛ ˈtinːɪ ˈʃemːɛ]

Re: Why are you hitting yourself?

Posted: 11 Dec 2014 01:16
by masako
:lfn:

Perce tu colpa tu mesma?
Why are you hitting yourself?

Re: Why are you hitting yourself?

Posted: 02 Jan 2015 19:45
by pittmirg
:pol: Czemu sam siebie bijesz?
cz-emu sam siebie bi-j-esz
what-DAT REFL.EMPH[NOMsg] REFL.ACC beat-LINK-2sg.PRES.IND

(sam means 'alone' as an adjective and it also corresponds to certain more peripheral uses of English reflexive pronouns, such as the emphatic 'director himself...' and the one with unexpected agency/no agency 'the door opened by itself')

Re: Why are you hitting yourself?

Posted: 03 Jan 2015 13:47
by Lambuzhao
:con: Sadrås

Vürünj hetta Ðe sjðj?
ADV.INTERR hit<PRS> 2SG.SUB RFLX-2SG.OBJ

One could also say

Vürünj sjhetta Ðe?
ADV.INTERR RFLX=hit<PRS> 2SG.SUB

But this sounds a little archaic.


:con: Rozwi

Wodōm zim ʔihme?

There is a reflexive pronoun in Rozwi / žeič(oa)/, but it sounds pleonastic to use it in this example.



:con: Çedara

¿Odcur tu pujsa te iso?
ADV.INTERR 2SG.NOM hit-PRS.3SG 2SG.OBJ RFLX

Re: Why are you hitting yourself?

Posted: 26 Jan 2015 16:18
by Tuslaven Kukristo
Image Teeverb Kuluxem:
Blango ubhietma tunoi?
Lit: Why you hit you?

:epo: Esperanto:
Kial vi batas vin?

Re: Why are you hitting yourself?

Posted: 21 Sep 2017 08:04
by Iyionaku
:con: Caelian

Lizwye Zang tinfan?
[lisˈʋɛ zan tʰiɱˈβan]
why 2SG.ACC hit.2SG>2SG
Why are you hitting yourself?

You could equally use "Zan" - the 2SG.NOM pronoun. To use both, however, would sound a little unnatural.

:con: Ular

从得头岩着你?
Tōng tā thâ lhó mŏn má?

[tiŋ˧ tɛ˧ tʰɛ˧˦˥ ʟɔ˥ mɔn˥˧ mɑ˥]
follow TOP head hit PROG 2SG
Why are you hitting yourself?

:con: Bath'aso

Shels kralsokz tshennz zhuts krtak kxuzh.
[ʂɛls ˈkrɑlsɔkz̥ ͡tʂɛnːz ʐut͡s ˈkr̩tɑk ͡kxuʐ]
POT have=2SG.ERG reason CONT hit 2SG.INDR
You surely have a reason for why you keep on hitting yourself.

Re: Why are you hitting yourself?

Posted: 21 Sep 2017 09:12
by Lao Kou
Image Japoné語

君 oué pourquoé tu ga 打ttété 自身 au ca?
Quimi oué pourquoé tu ga outtété djichine au ca?
2SG TOP why 2SG NOM hit-PRES.PROG self ACC Q
Why are you hitting yourself?

Re: Why are you hitting yourself?

Posted: 21 Sep 2017 10:16
by Imralu
Thakowsaizmu wrote::tan: Unajipiga kwa nini?
/u.nɑ.ɗʒi.'pi.ɠɑ kʷɑ 'ni.ni/
u-na-ji-piga kwa nini
2ps-PRES-refl-hit for what
Usually kwa nini (or its more emphatic synonym mbona) goes first, and <j> is a pure palatal (usually implosive) not an affricate in the description of native speech.

Re: Why are you hitting yourself?

Posted: 22 Sep 2017 09:01
by Davush
Gulf Arabic does it more or less like English:

ليش تضرب نفسك؟ ليش تضربين نفسج؟
lēsh taḍrǝb nafsik? /lɛ:ʃ tɑðˤrʊbˤ næfsɪk/ (to a male)
lēsh taḍrǝbīn nafsič? /lɛ:ʃ tɑðˤrʊbi:n næfsɪʧ/ (to a female)
why 2P-hit self-2P?

lēsh can also be replaced with sh-ḥaggah (what for).

Re: Why are you hitting yourself?

Posted: 22 Sep 2017 09:57
by Alessio
:ita: Italiano
Perché ti colpisci/picchi da solo?
/per'ke ti kol'piːʃi 'pikki da 'soːlo/
why 2SG.REFL hit.2SG/beat.2SG REFL

"Colpisci" (colpire) is more literally "hit", while "picchi" (picchiare) means "beat, especially with fists".

:ita: Emilian - Dialàt Vgnulěṡ (specific dialect of an Italian local language)
Parchè 't péc-et da par tè?
/par'kε‿t 'petʃet dɐ pɐr 'tε/
why 2SG.REFL hit.2SG+2SG.ATONE REFL

"péc-et" is the question form for "et péc" (you beat), using an inversion system inherited from French.

Re: Why are you hitting yourself?

Posted: 23 Sep 2017 17:40
by Threr
:fra: Good french

Pourquoi te frappes-tu ?

:fra: Casual french

Pourquoi est-ce que tu t'frappes ?
Pourquoi tu t'frappes ?


:con: Deyryck (non marian)

Yo nalfa'pn
oneself hit.GOAL:none.ABS_PL

:con: Deyryck (marian)

'Nond yo nalfa'n
why oneself hit.GOAL:none.PL

Re: Why are you hitting yourself?

Posted: 03 Jan 2018 14:30
by Iyionaku
:chn: Mandarin

你为什么在打你自己?
Nǐ wèishéme zài dǎ nǐ zìjǐ?
2SG why PROG hit 2SG REFL
Why are you hitting yourself?

Re: Why are you hitting yourself?

Posted: 03 Jan 2018 16:59
by Fluffy8x
fšy pon imia, imia idtš.ie tan?
[fʃʉ̜ pʌn imia imia idtʃʔiɛ tan]
underlying form: fšy pon imia, imia ditši.e tan?

fš-y pon im-i-a,
do_what-GENERIC.NONPAST PR.FAR.ND.ACC CONN.CAUS-(i)-EVEN,

im-i-a ditš-i.e tan?
CONN.CAUS-(i)-EVEN hit-ANAPH_OBJ.NONPAST PR.NEAR.ND.ACC

Edit: this is :con: Middle Rymakonian.

Re: Why are you hitting yourself?

Posted: 04 Jan 2018 23:51
by Reyzadren
:con: griuskant (without the conscript)

ost raeda uar ve?
/'ost 'reda 'uar 'və/
2SG hit-V self why

Re: Why are you hitting yourself?

Posted: 11 Jan 2018 13:49
by Anarel
Ikāezin

Wûn Arnīz Zēinerīsrate tēa
/ɰu:n aɾni:z zˈeineɾi:sɾate tˈea/
why yourself-2SG.REFL hit-PROGRESSIVE.REFLEXIVE.2SG.PRES.IND ?-question mark
Why yourself are hitting your own person?

I know it might by kind of redundant, but reflection uses pronouns similar to the Spanish reflexive pronouns (se, te, me) plus a reflexive infix for verbs to indicate that the action is reflective.

Re: Why are you hitting yourself?

Posted: 02 Apr 2018 23:01
by ixals
:con: Cissian

unstressed reflexive:
Зачо ся беш?
/zaˈtʃo sʲa ˈbʲeʃ/
[z̪äˈt͡ʂɔ s̪ʲä ˈbʲeʂ↗]
začó sya b-yeš
why REFL.ACC hit.IMP-2SG

“Why are you hitting yourself?”

stressed reflexive:
Зачо сам себе беш?
/zaˈtʃo sam sʲeˈbʲe ˈbʲeʃ/
[z̪äˈt͡ʂɔ s̪äm s̪ʲeˈbʲe ˈbʲeʂ↗]
začó sam-∅ syebyé b-yeš
why REFL.EMPH-M REFL.ACC hit.IMP-2SG

“Why are you hitting yourself?”

Edit: Added another variant

Re: Why are you hitting yourself?

Posted: 03 Apr 2018 00:09
by spanick
:con: Sortsbergish (Modern Gotski)

Hö slahs tu sek?
/høː slaxs tu sek/
why IPFV.hit-2S 2S.NOM REFL
"Why are you hitting yourself?"

sek is an indeclinable reflexive pronoun used for all persons and numbers.

Re: Why are you hitting yourself?

Posted: 07 Apr 2018 22:28
by Birdlang
Pigeonese
Nyõ kawoë nhäek slį?
/ɲɤ ka.woə ɲɜ.ɤk ɬɨ̃/
[ɲɞ ka.βɵ̜ː ɲ̊ɶʡ ɬɪɨj̃]
Nyõ ka-woë nhäek slį.
Why 2sg-slightly.INF hit self?