Ordering Coffee

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Ordering Coffee

Post by Andlat » 23 Jan 2014 00:29

:eng: I would like my coffee with two cream and one sugar.

:con: Kwëpta
Mína halutas míno hlava pe lëpatai lë ewö murú mëna.
miː.nɑ hɑ.lʌ.dɑs miː.nɔː hlɑ.vɑ leɪ.pɑ.tɑ.ɪ leɪ eɪ.woʊ mʌ.ruː meɪ.nɑ
1S would.like.PRES 1S.GEN coffee two cream.PL and one sugar have.INF.

lit.I would like my coffee to have two creams and one sugar.

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Re: Ordering Coffee

Post by k1234567890y » 23 Jan 2014 02:27

:con: Lonmai Luna/Liunan:

se dalep kafi-gadawakai-se akem ta-laipis roum-kalaip fo hi-laipis baf-kalaip
1.SG hope Coffee-drink-1.SG contain two-CLF cream-block and one-CLF sugar-block
lit. I hope my coffee to contain two creams and one sugar
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Re: Ordering Coffee

Post by Pirka » 23 Jan 2014 05:03

:gle:
Ba mhaith liom mo chaife le dhá chuid uachtair agus aon chuid amháin siúcra.
ba.L=maith liom mo.L=caife le dhá.L=cuid uachtair agus aon.L=cuid amháin siúcra
COND.COP=good with.me my=coffee.NOM with two=part.NOM cream.GEN and any=part.NOM one sugar.GEN

:rus:
Я хочу кофе с двумя порциями сливок и с одной порцией сахара.
я хоть-у кофе-0 с двумя порций-ами сливок и с одн-ой порций-ей сахар-а
1.SG.NOM want.IPFV-1.SG.NPST coffee-SG.ACC with two.INSTR portion-PL.INSTR cream.PL.GEN and with one-SG.INSTR portion-SG.INSTR sugar-SG.GEN
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Re: Ordering Coffee

Post by Thakowsaizmu » 23 Jan 2014 05:16

:tan: Tafadhali, naomba kawaha yenye mitindi mbili na sukari moja
/tɑ.fɑ.'ðɑ.li nɑ.'ɔ.mbɑ kɑ.'hɑ.wɑ 'jɛ.ɲɛ mi.'ti.ndi 'mbi.li nɑ su.'kɑ.ɾi 'mɔ.ʄɑ/
tafadhali na-omba kawaha y-enye mi-tindi m-bili na sukari moja
please PRES-ask CL9_coffee CL9-having CL4-cream CL4-two and CL9_sugar CL9_one

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Re: Ordering Coffee

Post by Micamo » 23 Jan 2014 11:01

:con: Haneko

Haneko is particularly bad at this type of sentence because of the syntactic restrictions on desiderative expressions and numeral expressions combining to create a perfect storm of awful. The closest I can get to a literal translation is the following:

hoka nanahi pakahi kai mika teya'ayita hoi ma kalim nanahi pakahi kai mika teya'ayita pina
hoka nana-hi po-kahi kai mika ti-a-o-i=ta hoi ma kalim nana-hi po-kahi kai mika ti-a-o-i=ta pina
sugar [3]give-NMLZ 1.POSS-coffee POST:3n DESID 2.P-be-NEXP.NPST-F.SG=1s.ERG once and [3]give-NMLZ 1.POSS-coffee POST:3n DESID 2.P-be-NEXP.NPST-F.SG=1s.ERG twice
I would like you to give my coffee sugar once and I would like you to give my coffee cream twice.

An actual speaker however would be more likely to say something like this:

hoka kananai hoi ma kalim kananai pina
hoka ko-nana-i hoi ma kalim ko-nana-i pina
sugar 2.A-give-F.SG once cream 2.A-give-F.SG
You give sugar once, and you give cream twice.

Both of these examples assume the person preparing the coffee (the addressee) is female: A male addressee is slightly different.
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Re: Ordering Coffee

Post by Xing » 23 Jan 2014 12:44

Andlat wrote::eng: I would like my coffee with two cream and one sugar.
Ea taima imma kopi me poa katingeli e teki katikali.
OPT give DEM coffee GEN 1s with two cream and one sugar
"Give (me) this coffee (of mine) with two (units of) cream and one (unit of) sugar."

Ea imma poa katingeli e teki katikali i kopi o mai.
OPT put two cream and one sugar LOC coffee GEN 1s
"Put two (units of) cream and one (unit of) sugar in my coffee."

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Re: Ordering Coffee

Post by Lao Kou » 27 Jan 2014 15:00

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Sí la chö kawabsöt sa fkerensan síl löngölsíg zhö sü íéraksün kalaf.
[si ˈla tʃø kaˈʋabsøt sa fkɛˈɾɛ̃san sil løˈŋølsig ʒø sy jeˈɾaksyn kaˈlaf]
1SG-NOM DEF coffee-ACC INDEF cream-INSTR INDEF.DUAL jigger-INSTR.DUAL and INDEF sugar-INSTR would.like
I would like my coffee with two cream and one sugar.
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Re: Ordering Coffee

Post by Bagliun Edar » 27 Jan 2014 16:27

:eng: I would like my coffee with two cream and one sugar.

:con:Obulamga
Arni thilādeunyor thiblalemyorzu govithazu amtha gremazu altha uboaibazu.
[ˈaɾni ˈðilaːdɛˌunʎɔɾ ˈðiblalɛmˌʎɔɾzu ˈgɔviˌðazu ˈamða ˈgɾemazu ˈalða ˈubɔaiˌbazu]
ar-ni thilādeun-yor thiblalem-yor-zu govi-tha-zu am-tha grema-zu al-tha uboaiba-zu
give-PREC.POL3 cup-SG.INTRO_INDF.NEUT-[ACC] mix-SG.INTRO_INDF.NEUT-REL coffee-and-REL two-and cream-REL one-and sweetener-REL
give(request) [me] a cup of a mix of coffee, two cream and one sugar

POL3: extremely polite

EDIT:
Corrections for the one above:
Arni thilādeunyor thiblalemyorzu govibothazu airojorthazu am gremabozu airoyortha al uboaibabozu.
[ˈaɾni ˈðilaːdɛˌunʎɔɾ ˈðiblalɛmˌʎɔɾzu ˈgɔvibɔˌðazu ˈaiɾɔʒɔɾˌðazu am ˈgɾemaˌbɔzu ˈaiɾɔʎɔɾða al ˈubɔaibaˌbɔzu]
ar-ni thilādeun-yor thiblalem-yor-zu govi-bo-tha-zu airo-jor-tha-zu am grema-bo-zu airo-yor-tha al uboaiba-bo-zu
give-PREC.POL3 cup-SG.INTRO_INDF.NEUT-[ACC] mix-SG.INTRO_INDF.NEUT-REL coffee-INDF.NEUT-and-REL measure-DU.INTRO_INDF.NEUT-and-REL two cream-INDF.NEUT-REL measure-SG.INTRO_INDF.NEUT-and one sweetener-INDF.NEUT-REL
give(request) [me] a cup of a mix of coffee, two measures of-cream and one measure of-sugar

A bit more Obulamgishly:
Thilādeunyor govibozudo thiblalemyorzu amjorthazu gremabozu alyortha uboaibabozu arni.
[ˈðilaːdɛˌunʎɔɾ ˈgɔvibɔˌzudɔ ˈðiblalɛmˌʎɔɾzu ˈamʒɔɾˌðazu ˈgɾɛmaˌbɔzu ˈalʎɔɾða ˈubɔaibaˌbɔzu ˈaɾni]
thilādeun-yor govi-bo-zu-do thiblalem-yor-zu am-jor-tha-zu grema-bo-zu al-yor-tha uboaiba-bo-zu ar-ni
cup-SG.INTRO_INDF.NEUT-[ACC] coffee-INDF.NEUT-REL-TOP mix-SG.INTRO_INDF.NEUT-REL two-DU.INTRO_INDF.NEUT-and-REL cream-INDF.NEUT-REL one-SG.INTRO_INDF.NEUT-and sweetener-INDF.NEUT-REL give-PREC.POL3
About-a-cup of-coffee, a-mix of-two-cream-and one-sweetener-and give [me]

Even more Obulamgishly:
Thilādeunyordo gremajorthazu uboaibayortha arni.
[ˈðilaːdɛunˌʎɔɾdɔ ˈgɾɛmaʒɔɾˌðazu ˈubɔaibaˌʎɔɾða ˈaɾni]
thilādeun-yor-do grema-jor-tha-zu uboaiba-yor-tha ar-ni
cup-SG.INTRO_INDF.NEUT-[ACC]-TOP cream-DU.INTRO_INDF.NEUT-and-REL sweetener-SG.INTRO_INDF.NEUT-and give-PREC.POL3
About-a-cup [of-coffee], [a-mix] of-[two]-cream-and [one]-sweetener-and give [me]
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Re: Ordering Coffee

Post by Prinsessa » 27 Jan 2014 19:22

wth is two cream supposed to mean

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Re: Ordering Coffee

Post by Lao Kou » 27 Jan 2014 19:40

Skógvur wrote:wth is two cream supposed to mean
http://forum.wordreference.com/showthre ... &langid=22

doesn't really explain the usage, but has several speakers using it with aplomb. I myself didn't bat an eye until I thought about it. Now I'm back to batless eye.
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Re: Ordering Coffee

Post by Valosken » 27 Jan 2014 20:59

:con: Dorska:
Jarai mei Kaven sun assi kermar ja onno ose.
Jar-ai mei Kave-n su-n assi kerma-r ja onno ose
have-1:SBJV 1:GEN coffee-ACC ADOR*-ADJ two cream-PL and:NMZ** one sugar


*ADOR = Adornative
**NMZ is used with this because the conjunction is used as "and" for connecting nouns alone, and not verbs.
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Re: Ordering Coffee

Post by Prinsessa » 27 Jan 2014 21:25

Lao Kou wrote:
Skógvur wrote:wth is two cream supposed to mean
http://forum.wordreference.com/showthre ... &langid=22

doesn't really explain the usage, but has several speakers using it with aplomb. I myself didn't bat an eye until I thought about it. Now I'm back to batless eye.
It's so weird how plurals seem to disappear in restaurant language. It happens in Sweden too. I've never had the habit myself, though, so I react every time. Can't bring myself to go there. I still inflect.

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Re: Ordering Coffee

Post by Bagliun Edar » 28 Jan 2014 13:23

Lao Kou wrote:
Skógvur wrote:wth is two cream supposed to mean
http://forum.wordreference.com/showthre ... &langid=22

doesn't really explain the usage, but has several speakers using it with aplomb. I myself didn't bat an eye until I thought about it. Now I'm back to batless eye.
I *assumed* it means two measures of cream, whatever that measure is.
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Re: Ordering Coffee

Post by Andlat » 29 Jan 2014 19:25

Yeah, two cream means two packets of cream. Restaurant language is really strange sometimes.

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Re: Ordering Coffee

Post by Bagliun Edar » 30 Jan 2014 16:13

Andlat wrote:Yeah, two cream means two packets of cream. Restaurant language is really strange sometimes.
In the specific case of my conlang, it is pro-drop.

"two cream" would be "airoyor am gremabozu" (two measures of cream). But we may drop the "airo" word (measure) in which case, the number (am, two) takes its declension. It'd be:

"amyor gremabozu" (two of cream).

EDIT: I made an error, "airoyor am gremabozu" (two measures of cream) is wrong. "Airo";s declension, "-yor", is singular. It should be dual: "airojor am gremabozu" (two measures of cream). Since it's dual, the number "am" (two) can be dropped: "airojor gremabozu" (measures[dual] of cream). As said above, "airo" (measure) can also be dropped: "gremajor" (creams[dual]).
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Re: Ordering Coffee

Post by valiums » 31 Jan 2014 08:10

Nloya:

Nakóhìta zinyójínga nláshíso hilyáínga yúísoma lóújo ngóírí.
I-coffee/LOC-into 2-packet/DIR-ADJ cream/DIR-ACC 1-dash/DIR-ADJ sugar/DIR-ACC-and I/DIR-NOM desire.want/PRS.

Or, if you're in a hurry:

Nakóhíta zínga nláshí hínga yúímanshi narírìvi.
I-coffee/LOC-into | 2-ADJ cream/DIR | 1-ADJ sugar/DIR-and-this | I-want/INST-ELA

Or if you're really in a hurry, which most people buying coffee in Nloyaland would be:

Kohi-ta zi nlashi hi yui, mele!
Twocreamsonesugarinthecoffee thanks!

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Re: Ordering Coffee

Post by Visinoid » 02 Feb 2014 20:04

:fra:

Je voudrais /prendrais /aimerais mon café avec deux crèmes /deux laits, (et) un sucre.

[ʒə vu.dʁɛ / pʁɑ̃.dʁɛ / ɛm(ə). ʁɛ mɔ̃ ka.fe a.vɛk dø kχɛm / dø lɛ (e) œ̃ sykχ]
"I would want/would take/would like my coffee with two cremes/two milks, (and) one sugar."
1SG want.COND /take.COND / like.COND my.MASC coffe with two cremes / two milks (and) one sugar

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Re: Ordering Coffee

Post by k1234567890y » 02 Feb 2014 20:09

:roc: :zho: Chinese(Mandarin):

我希望我的咖啡能加兩顆奶球和一包糖
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