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The Tiger

Post by Xing » 12 Apr 2014 12:04

:uk: The tiger is orange with black stripes.

:con: Gaku:

Mera garataike nea kilu lengokko o kia.
mera gara-taike nea kilu le-ngokko o kia
orange cat-tiger COP stripe PL-black GEN 3s

In Gaku, this sentence has to consist of two clauses, since the two kinds of predicates (the adjectival 'orange' and the prepositional 'with black stripes') require different strategies.

Also, 'mera' can mean either 'red' or 'yellow'. (You might of course substite this colour with whatever colour(s) tigroids have in your conworld.)

Note also the construction 'mera garataike' - an unmarked (singular) form of the adjective, but without the singulative article ('ta') in front of the noun. This signifies that we are talking about a general fact. Compare this with:

mera ta garatake ('a/the tiger is orange' - some (particular) tiger satisfies this colour criterion)
meramera garatake ('some/the tigers are orange')

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Re: The Tiger

Post by clawgrip » 12 Apr 2014 13:10

:jpn: Japanese

I had trouble translating it literally from English without sounding super weird, so I have interpreted it:

虎の模様は、黄色と黒の縞々である。
Tora no moyō wa, kiiro to kuro no shimashima de-aru.
tiger GEN pattern TOP yellow and black GEN striped be.FORM
LIT: "The tiger's pattern is black and yellow stripes."

Typically Japanese people consider tigers to be yellow and black, not orange and black. This is weird, because modern Japanese clearly does not lack the concept of orange, but people still persist in calling it yellow.

Check this out: A Japanese-language Google image search for tiger clip art

Most of the tigers are clearly way more yellow than real tigers.
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Re: The Tiger

Post by Sangfroidish » 12 Apr 2014 15:28

Vahai eidänim cag gwl ac eidänim ög czwacen lhaid.
vah(as)-ai eidä-nim cag gwl ac eidä-nim ög czwac(in)-en lhaid
[ˈʋɒɦɑj ˈʔejðænɪm qɒɣ ɣul ɒkʰ ˈejðænɪm øɣ ˈkt͡sʷɒgen l̥ɑjð]
tiger-PL.NOM be-3pl red yellow and be-3pl 3pl.MASC.DAT stripe-PL.NOM black
"Tigers are yellow-red and have black stripes."

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Re: The Tiger

Post by Xing » 06 May 2014 20:12

:con: Nizhmel

C’ậzệ wokô yệ k'ô chện wônukô
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c’ậzệ wo-kô yệ k'ô chện wôn-u-kô
tiger red-COP and black stripe 3s.N-GEN-COP
[ˈʦʼə̀ze ˈɔ́kʰo e ˈkʼo ˈʧʼẽ́ ˈṍukʰo]

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Re: The Tiger

Post by Shyvie » 06 May 2014 20:34

síkoŋ za-voşal ǐŋkeŋeşr mɱyúy ú kácw si çifaş

/ɕiːkʷɐʔ ts'ɰɔʂæʎ ɯɲ̥cɛɲ̥ɛɻ̥ɻ mm̥ɥuːɥ uː cæːsʷ ɕi l̥ifʲæʂ/

[fur GEN.tiger stripe.PL.TOPIC orange and black PRES possess]
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Re: The Tiger

Post by shmittygoatman » 06 May 2014 23:08

Gábir hùnege, vil muneg dom zeng hùnege, herd hib zeng muneg dom.
to-be-orange. tiger. to have. stripes.PLU.ACC. tiger. is black.ACC stripes.PLU
The tiger "oranges", the tiger has stripes, the stripes are black.
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Re: The Tiger

Post by Nortaneous » 09 May 2014 05:35

Gehui: (using 'cat' since there's no word for 'tiger')
nǂa ñɛħ fee nǂa xɛ !ɔ!hɔx mʘoħ
DEF cat be_yellow DEF have PL~stripe be_black

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Re: The Tiger

Post by Click » 09 May 2014 19:52

:con: Ardelian

COR stands for coreferential, which basically means that the referent in question has already been mentioned.
  • Paktár yerıtı otverteso nínər.
    paktár ye·rıtı·Ø·Ø otv̄er·t·Ø·yas·av nínə·rə̆
    tiger red·yellow·PRS·3SG and covered·PAT·PRS·COR3PL stripe·PL
    The tiger is orange with black stripes.

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Re: The Tiger

Post by All4Ɇn » 03 Jun 2014 07:42

:con: Niijerj

Li tígè ì œranjo ín dy rigeux nboros
The tiger is orange with of the stripes black

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Re: The Tiger

Post by Jojo87 » 14 Jun 2014 19:14

:con: Maurs

More natural translation would be:
Asturjavik orannar ki kisisk varnile ir ta o.
a-sturjavik o-ranna-r ki kisi-sk var-nile i-r ta o
the-tiger it-be.orange.PRS and be.black-PTCP PL-stripe COP.they-PRS LOC it
The tiger is orange and has black stripes.

Somewhat more literal version:
Asturjavik kisisk varnileik orannar.
a-sturjavik kisi-sk var-nile-ik o-ranna-r
the-tiger be.black-PTCP PL-stripe-ADV it-be.orange-PRS
The tiger is black-stripe-ish orange.

I took the liberty of translating tiger as sturjavik: big-cat
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Re: The Tiger

Post by loglorn » 18 Jun 2014 19:50

:con: Proto-Gigxkpoyan:
miʐ kʰuɣt' ɥutʰɥutʰ ev ʁiʐ tʰɺoʁ ɣɳøtʰɣɳøtʰ
mi-ʐ kʰuɣt' ɥutʰɥutʰ ev ʁi-ʐ tʰɺoʁ ɣɳøtʰɣɳøtʰ
be-GNO tiger orange and has-GNO stripes black


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Re: The Tiger

Post by cntrational » 18 Jun 2014 21:16

:con: Faction Gachran
Tiŋriɛ akä arami akä larhan mkə fränjɛya.
tiger-DEF.SG EXIST.3SG orange EXIST.3SG black is.appearance.of stripe-INDEF.PL
The tiger is orange with black stripes.

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Re: The Tiger

Post by Iyionaku » 19 Jun 2014 09:04

Yélian:

A'murar ienbit fecun'goli∙ydanarák. << outdated
A'murar ienbit fecun golîydanarák.
A'-murar ien-bit fecun'-goli∙yda-n-arák.
[a'murajɛnbitfɛkʊn'goliʃdana'rak]
ANIM-tiger orange-be-ACT-3-PS-SG with-GRAMMATICAL-ACCENT-stripe-PL-black

The tiger is orange with black stripes.
Edit: This is outdated. Today one one would write fecun goliydanarák instead of fecun'goli∙ydanarák. Also, the pronounciation has changed from [goliʃdana'rak] to [golʃdanrak].
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Re: The Tiger

Post by Xing » 06 Jun 2016 12:28

:con: Mīrna

Kāran nivkavīrka mīyanna valliya nilkik.
kāran nivka-vīrka mīyanna valliya nilkik
tiger yellow-red have-ACTIVE.PTCPL black stripe
[kaːrɐn nɪvkɐviːrkɔ miːʝɐnːɔ valːɪʝɔ nɪlkɪç]

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Re: The Tiger

Post by Iyionaku » 03 Jul 2017 10:46

Enough time passed to be relevant for a new reply:

A'murar bit o'salien fecun golîydanarákan.
[ɐˈmuːrɐd̟ bɨt ɔˈsalɪ̯ən ˈɸeːkʉn ˈgolɨɕdɐnɐˌrakɐn]
DEF.ANIM=tiger COP.3SG.ANIM DEF.GEN=colour-orange with stripe-black-PL
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Re: The Tiger

Post by Imralu » 03 Jul 2017 18:25

:tan: Swahili:

Chui-milia ana rangi ya machungwa na milia nyeusi.

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chui-milia                  a-na         rangi      y-a    machungwa   na   milia        ny-eusi
leopard(9)-stripe(s)(9/10)  3s.ANIM-COM  colour(9)  9-GEN  oranges(6)  COM  stripes(10)  10-black
Literally: "The striped-leopard has the colour of oranges and black stripes."
Glossing Abbreviations: COMP = comparative, C = complementiser, ACS / ICS = accessible / inaccessible, GDV = gerundive, SPEC / NSPC = specific / non-specific, AG = agent, E = entity (person, animal, thing)
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Re: The Tiger

Post by lsd » 03 Jul 2017 19:24

piep imyx taemyx liein vae
.striped black red under beast.
tiger

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Re: The Tiger

Post by Frislander » 03 Jul 2017 22:09

:con: O Kanã

There's no word for tiger so I've just borrowed from English.

weaetadraa o taiga te ii wesa nãtoiri.
[we̯aeta↓ⁿɖʳaː o taɪ̯↓ⁿga te iː we↓sa nã↓toɪ̯ɽi]
weae-tadraa o taiga te ii wesa nãtoi-ri
gree/yellow-red N tiger LOC PL stripe black-PL
The tiger is orange with black stripes.

This was the best way I could think of to translate it, with the "black stripes" being an adverbial adjunct as in the English, and I'd also be tempted to focus it was well, which would give the following;

se te ii wesa nãtoiri weaetadraa o taiga.
[se te iː we↓sa nã↓toɪ̯ɽi we̯aeta↓ⁿɖʳaː o taɪ̯↓ⁿga]
se te ii wesa nãtoi-ri weae-tadraa o taiga
FOC LOC PL stripe black-PL green.yellow-red N tiger
The tiger is orange with black stripes.

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Re: The Tiger

Post by Xing » 07 Jul 2017 13:04

:con: Xingish

Tiger er yon-rod o hawa hitam randese.
[ˈtiːgəɾ eːɾ jo̞n ro̞d o̞ ˈhaːʋa ˈhiːtam ˈrandəsə]
tiger er yon rod o hawa hitam rande-se
tiger be yellow red and have black stripe-PL

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Re: The Tiger

Post by Creyeditor » 07 Jul 2017 22:40

Yesterday I was thinking really hard about what a tiger would be in my conworld, since there are no terrestrial mammals *there*. I was thinking about maybe having something like a 'terror bird' or a 'thunder bird'. Maybe also some 'giant ow'. I really don't know which flightless birds are most similar to tigers.
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