Participles

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Re: Participles

Post by Iyionaku » 30 Jul 2018 09:34

:chn: Mandarin (attempt)

男人一边走在街道上,一边呼啸一支快乐的曲。
Nánrén yībiān zŏu zài jiēdào shàng, yībiān hūxiào yīzhī kuàilè de qū.
man at_same_time walk at street up, at_same_time whistle one-CL happy ATTR song
A man came walking down the street, whistling a happy tune.
Wipe the glass. This is the usual way to start, even in the days, day and night, only a happy one.

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Re: Participles

Post by Lao Kou » 30 Jul 2018 11:42

Iyionaku wrote:
30 Jul 2018 09:34
:chn: Mandarin (attempt)

男人一边走在街道上,一边呼啸一支快乐的曲。
Nánrén yībiān zŏu zài jiēdào shàng, yībiān hūxiào yīzhī kuàilè de qū.
A man came walking down the street, whistling a happy tune.
First things first:

1) 呼啸:the component characters kind of tell you where you're going with this verb (海啸 is a tidal wave). Wuthering Heights is translated into Chinese as 呼啸山庄, so we can translate 呼啸 as the obscure "wuther". Used to describe wind:

西北风呼啸而过,冬至到了。
Xīběifēng hūxiào ér guò, dōngzhì dào le
The wind howled in from the northwest, the winter solstice had arrived.

In terms of whistling, it whips up for me the image of
Image (old-fashioned train whistles behave this way also)

What humans do when they pucker and blow is, intransitively (in English, anyway), 吹口哨 chuī kǒushào; transitively, it becomes 吹口哨吹 chuī kǒushào chuī (+ object, like a happy tune, a sea shanty)

2) 曲 as first tone qū involves bending, curving, twisting. In expression of things musical, it's third tone qǔ.

To matters of style: I'd just trim the fat -- it'd sound less Western translationy.

男人边走边吹口哨,吹着快乐的曲子。
Nánrén biān zŏu biān chuī kǒushào, chuīzhe kuàilè de qǔzi.
A man came walking down the street, whistling a happy tune.
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Re: Participles

Post by Iyionaku » 30 Jul 2018 14:00

Lao Kou wrote:
30 Jul 2018 11:42
呼啸:the component characters kind of tell you where you're going with this verb (海啸 is a tidal wave). Wuthering Heights is translated into Chinese as 呼啸山庄, so we can translate 呼啸 as the obscure "wuther".
Oops, well that's what the dictionaries don't tell you. I literally browsed MDBG and looked for a word in the HSK lists, because they can't fool me, right? Right??
吹 doesn't have "to whistle" as a translation, but "to play a wind instrument". Well, thanks I guess.
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Re: Participles

Post by Lao Kou » 30 Jul 2018 15:36

Iyionaku wrote:
30 Jul 2018 14:00
吹 doesn't have "to whistle" as a translation, but "to play a wind instrument". Well, thanks I guess.
Well, it wouldn't. The primary translation of 吹 in English is "blow". Winds blow (using 吹), and wind instruments involve blowing, so "blow" for "'play' a wind instrument" is natural, but wouldn't necessarily show up under "play" or "whistle". One blows whistles (哨子 shàozi - whistle, what a referee or policeman might use) or whistles through one's own mouth by blowing (口哨 kǒushào - "mouth whistle").
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Re: Participles

Post by Mándinrùh » 31 Jul 2018 00:40

Image Ecclesiastical Atili:

Hól-vi-s mazí-zu dón-so-m salva-h-ún-das-ma kétlan koldé-zu aézin.
Exist-3;CLF(person)-PST;PFV man-IND blow-3;CLF(abstract)-CVB walk-towards_speaker-at-3;CLF(stationary)-CVB pleasant music-IND street.
/'xol.vis mə.'zi.zu 'don.som səl.və.'xun.das.ma 'ket.ɬan kol.'de.zu ə.'e.zin/
There was a man, whistling a pleasant song, walking towards me in the street.

In Atili, participles are restricted to copula complements, so they don't actually appear in this sample. Instead, we get converbs! And since the subject of an active or transitive verb can't be indefinite, we get two of them (dón-so-m, "blowing", and salva-h-ún-das-ma, "walking towards me at the stationary object") along with the existential verb hol.
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Re: Participles

Post by Imralu » 01 Aug 2018 01:04

:tan: Swahili


Mwanaume alikuja akitembea barabarani akipiga mbinja ya wimbo unaofurahisha.
mwanaume a-li-ku-j(a) a-ki-tembea(a) barabara-ni a-ki-pig(a) mbinja y-a wimbo u-na-o-furahi-sh(a)
man(CL1) CL1-PST-EXT-come CL1-SITU-walk street-LOC(CL16/17/18) CL1-SITU-hit whistle(CL9) CL9-GEN song(CL11) CL11-PRES-CL11.REL-become.happy-CAUS
A man came walking down the street, whistling a happy tune.

Edit: Google tells me I just wrote "A man came walking on the street playing a funeral song." Hahaha, no!
Glossing Abbreviations: COMP = comparative, C = complementiser, ACS / ICS = accessible / inaccessible, GDV = gerundive, SPEC / NSPC = specific / non-specific, AG = agent, E = entity (person, animal, thing)
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Re: Participles

Post by Reyzadren » 01 Aug 2018 22:39

:con: griuskant (without the conscript)

er yurda vuzh coik muisk kraeyoema rebin nerk.
/'ər 'jurda vuʒ 'tʃɔik muisk 'krejɯma 'rəbin 'nərk/
person walk-V at road while blow.hum-V happy-A-PASS melody
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