Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

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Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by elemtilas » 28 Aug 2016 02:02

The last part of the word probably stems from PG *dōmaz, meaning judgment.
It is indeed from that stem. But, that's the easy half of the word!
shimobaatar wrote:Is the word a noun?
It is indeed. -az being nom.s. wordhoard form.

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Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by Creyeditor » 28 Aug 2016 02:28

Ist the first part from Proto-Germanic *būaną?
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Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by elemtilas » 28 Aug 2016 21:05

Creyeditor wrote:Ist the first part from Proto-Germanic *būaną?
No.

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Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by Wario Toad 32 » 02 Sep 2016 19:01

I have 2
Rych /ʀɪx/
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Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by qwed117 » 04 Sep 2016 20:53

elemtilas wrote:Next:

bôôuumdomaz
Does the ô represent an overlong o, a long o, or a "short" o (that is, oː o or ɔ)?
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Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by elemtilas » 05 Sep 2016 16:33

qwed117 wrote:
elemtilas wrote:Next:

bôôuumdomaz
Does the ô represent an overlong o, a long o, or a "short" o (that is, oː o or ɔ)?
"ôô" is overlong; "ô" is long and "o" is short. A hint might be that overlong vowels in Avantimannish always arise from some kind of set of sound changes. Perhaps two vowels collapse together; perhaps there is loss of some sound with compensatory lengthening.

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Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by qwed117 » 05 Sep 2016 18:27

Is there more than 2 morphemes inside the compound?
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Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by elemtilas » 05 Sep 2016 20:15

qwed117 wrote:Is there more than 2 morphemes inside the compound?
It is a compound of two Old Thietish (PrGmc) words. *dōmaz has already been identified. There are three morphemes, one of which is the nom.s. ending.

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Post by qwed117 » 05 Sep 2016 20:42

Does the overlong ôô originate from a sequence involving a?
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Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by elemtilas » 05 Sep 2016 22:21

qwed117 wrote:Does the overlong ôô originate from a sequence involving a?
"A" is indeed involved!

Are you narrowing down?

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Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by qwed117 » 05 Sep 2016 22:34

Does the m stem from a nasalized vowel, or a true nasal? Maybe this is too much, but is the initial b- from PGm b?
Edit: So from what I understand in the morpheme "bôôuum" there's a vowel cluster, and an consonant (maybe cluster) that was/were later reduced.
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Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by elemtilas » 05 Sep 2016 23:38

qwed117 wrote:Does the m stem from a nasalized vowel, or a true nasal? Maybe this is too much, but is the initial b- from PGm b?
I don't think it's from a nasalised vowel, just an actual nasal.
So from what I understand in the morpheme "bôôuum" there's a vowel cluster, and an consonant (maybe cluster) that was/were later reduced.
Two sets of reductions, not necessarily contemporaneous.

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Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by qwed117 » 05 Sep 2016 23:46

Does ôô come from au?
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Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by elemtilas » 06 Sep 2016 00:14

qwed117 wrote:Does ôô come from au?
Yes. This word probably had an "au" segment during during late Old Avantimannish times. Interestingly, a similar sound change was affecting the name of the language itself, which at that time was Auntimaniskaz, from an earlier Antimaniskaz.

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Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by Znex » 09 Sep 2016 17:54

If there is a missing consonant, is it a PG voiced fricative/stop?
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Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by elemtilas » 09 Sep 2016 19:17

Znex wrote:If there is a missing consonant, is it a PG voiced fricative/stop?
Neither a voiced fricative or stop. Old Thietish stops are still stops in Avantimannish.

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Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by Znex » 10 Sep 2016 05:39

Is the missing consonant a liquid consonant (ie. l/r)?
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Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by elemtilas » 12 Sep 2016 17:28

Znex wrote:Is the missing consonant a liquid consonant (ie. l/r)?
Yes, an L. I think this word is feeling much like the hound umbeset fox now!

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Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by Khemehekis » 27 Sep 2016 15:40

Wario Toad 32 wrote:So basically how this game works is one person will post a word in their Germanic Conlang and another person will reply to that post trying to guess what that word means. There's one of these on CWS but I decided to start one here. I'll start first.

Language: Faloch
Word: Morgonesten
IPA: /moʁgonestεn/
Breakfast, maybe? ("Esten" reminds me of the German word for "eat", essen. Brings to mind such words as Abendessen for dinner).
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Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by Znex » 16 Oct 2016 05:27

Khemehekis wrote:
Wario Toad 32 wrote:So basically how this game works is one person will post a word in their Germanic Conlang and another person will reply to that post trying to guess what that word means. There's one of these on CWS but I decided to start one here. I'll start first.

Language: Faloch
Word: Morgonesten
IPA: /moʁgonestεn/
Breakfast, maybe? ("Esten" reminds me of the German word for "eat", essen. Brings to mind such words as Abendessen for dinner).
Yep, that was the answer already. Now we're trying to figure out what on earth bôôuumdomaz means/is derived from.

(We've already figured out it's from something like *bVlVmV+dōmaz; wherever the vowels go anyway)
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