Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

A forum for translations, translation challenges etc. Good place to increase your conlang's vocabulary.
shimobaatar
korean
korean
Posts: 11690
Joined: 12 Jul 2013 23:09
Location: PA → IN

Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by shimobaatar » 20 Mar 2017 21:10

Wario Toad 32 wrote:Rych /ʀɪx/
Bamhas /bamhas/
Were people's guesses regarding these words ever confirmed or denied?

Znex wrote:ōdōðramɛ̄
Is it a compound word?

Salmoneus wrote:4. tha lang wyrm
/th@ l{Ng wyrm/
If it's not "the long wyrm (dragon)" or "the long worm", is it "the long snake"?

Wario Toad 32 wrote:Ech gadochte obër dar Loft ont hü dar Wolkonë sent ols Haundën ont Faucholën.
/εx gadɑxtə obər dar lɔft ɔ̃t hy dar vɔlkɑ̃nə sεnt ols haundən ɔ̃t fauxolən/
This is pretty tough, at least in my opinion, since it's a longer sentence… is it "I thought about the air and X the clouds X out of dogs and X"? "X" represents a word I don't have a guess for.

User avatar
qwed117
mongolian
mongolian
Posts: 4455
Joined: 20 Nov 2014 02:27

Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by qwed117 » 20 Mar 2017 22:29

Isn't Faucholën just Falochland, his concountry?
Spoiler:
My minicity is Zyphrazia and Novland
What is made of man will crumble away.

User avatar
Znex
roman
roman
Posts: 1155
Joined: 12 Aug 2013 14:05
Location: Australia

Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by Znex » 26 Mar 2017 13:36

shimobaatar wrote:
Znex wrote:ōdōðramɛ̄
Is it a compound word?
Yep it is. [:)]
:eng: : [tick] | :grc: :wls: : [:|] | :chn: :isr: : [:S] | :nor: :deu: :rom: :ind: :con: : [:x]
Conlangs: Pofp'ash, Ikwawese, Old Quelgic, Nisukil Pʰakwi, Apsiska

shimobaatar
korean
korean
Posts: 11690
Joined: 12 Jul 2013 23:09
Location: PA → IN

Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by shimobaatar » 27 Mar 2017 04:42

Znex wrote:
shimobaatar wrote:
Znex wrote:ōdōðramɛ̄
Is it a compound word?
Yep it is. [:)]
Is it "ōdō-ðramɛ̄"?

User avatar
Znex
roman
roman
Posts: 1155
Joined: 12 Aug 2013 14:05
Location: Australia

Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by Znex » 27 Mar 2017 05:31

shimobaatar wrote:
Znex wrote:
shimobaatar wrote:
Znex wrote:ōdōðramɛ̄
Is it a compound word?
Yep it is. [:)]
Is it "ōdō-ðramɛ̄"?
No, it doesn't compound that way.
:eng: : [tick] | :grc: :wls: : [:|] | :chn: :isr: : [:S] | :nor: :deu: :rom: :ind: :con: : [:x]
Conlangs: Pofp'ash, Ikwawese, Old Quelgic, Nisukil Pʰakwi, Apsiska

User avatar
qwed117
mongolian
mongolian
Posts: 4455
Joined: 20 Nov 2014 02:27

Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by qwed117 » 29 Mar 2017 00:52

(My phone doesn't have a o-macron, so I'll use a o-double accent for the same vowel, also ticked d instead of edh and e-dot for long mid front)

Is it ődőđra-mė
Spoiler:
My minicity is Zyphrazia and Novland
What is made of man will crumble away.

User avatar
Znex
roman
roman
Posts: 1155
Joined: 12 Aug 2013 14:05
Location: Australia

Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by Znex » 29 Mar 2017 01:32

qwed117 wrote:(My phone doesn't have a o-macron, so I'll use a o-double accent for the same vowel, also ticked d instead of edh and e-dot for long mid front)

Is it ődőđra-mė
Getting colder there! It's ōd-ōðramɛ̄.
:eng: : [tick] | :grc: :wls: : [:|] | :chn: :isr: : [:S] | :nor: :deu: :rom: :ind: :con: : [:x]
Conlangs: Pofp'ash, Ikwawese, Old Quelgic, Nisukil Pʰakwi, Apsiska

shimobaatar
korean
korean
Posts: 11690
Joined: 12 Jul 2013 23:09
Location: PA → IN

Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by shimobaatar » 29 Mar 2017 02:15

Is the word a noun?

User avatar
All4Ɇn
mayan
mayan
Posts: 1830
Joined: 01 Mar 2014 07:19

Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by All4Ɇn » 29 Mar 2017 02:25

Znex wrote:
qwed117 wrote:(My phone doesn't have a o-macron, so I'll use a o-double accent for the same vowel, also ticked d instead of edh and e-dot for long mid front)

Is it ődőđra-mė
Getting colder there! It's ōd-ōðramɛ̄.
Does ōd derive from ūt?

User avatar
Znex
roman
roman
Posts: 1155
Joined: 12 Aug 2013 14:05
Location: Australia

Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by Znex » 29 Mar 2017 02:30

shimobaatar wrote:Is the word a noun?
It's not used as one, no.
All4Ɇn wrote:Does ōd derive from ūt?
No.
:eng: : [tick] | :grc: :wls: : [:|] | :chn: :isr: : [:S] | :nor: :deu: :rom: :ind: :con: : [:x]
Conlangs: Pofp'ash, Ikwawese, Old Quelgic, Nisukil Pʰakwi, Apsiska

User avatar
qwed117
mongolian
mongolian
Posts: 4455
Joined: 20 Nov 2014 02:27

Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by qwed117 » 29 Mar 2017 02:33

Do both ō's have the same source?
Spoiler:
My minicity is Zyphrazia and Novland
What is made of man will crumble away.

shimobaatar
korean
korean
Posts: 11690
Joined: 12 Jul 2013 23:09
Location: PA → IN

Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by shimobaatar » 29 Mar 2017 02:36

Is "ōd-" derived from a preposition or an element that was already used as a prefix in Proto-Germanic?

User avatar
Znex
roman
roman
Posts: 1155
Joined: 12 Aug 2013 14:05
Location: Australia

Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by Znex » 29 Mar 2017 04:37

qwed117 wrote:Do both ō's have the same source?
Yep, same sound change going on.
shimobaatar wrote:Is "ōd-" derived from a preposition or an element that was already used as a prefix in Proto-Germanic?
Yep.
:eng: : [tick] | :grc: :wls: : [:|] | :chn: :isr: : [:S] | :nor: :deu: :rom: :ind: :con: : [:x]
Conlangs: Pofp'ash, Ikwawese, Old Quelgic, Nisukil Pʰakwi, Apsiska

User avatar
qwed117
mongolian
mongolian
Posts: 4455
Joined: 20 Nov 2014 02:27

Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by qwed117 » 29 Mar 2017 05:30

I teased out that the first morpheme is from *andi-. Like the Ingaevonic nasal spiral law, the a is lengthened and the n is lost. Then a probably became more close.

Following that, I identify *antheros with the second morpheme in the dative. That gives us roughly "against second". I think this is a preposition of some sort.
Spoiler:
My minicity is Zyphrazia and Novland
What is made of man will crumble away.

User avatar
Znex
roman
roman
Posts: 1155
Joined: 12 Aug 2013 14:05
Location: Australia

Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by Znex » 29 Mar 2017 05:34

qwed117 wrote:Following that, I identify *antheros with the second morpheme in the dative. That gives us roughly "against second". I think this is a preposition of some sort.
No, not a preposition. That meaning is very rough too; you'll need to tweak that and think more metaphorically.
:eng: : [tick] | :grc: :wls: : [:|] | :chn: :isr: : [:S] | :nor: :deu: :rom: :ind: :con: : [:x]
Conlangs: Pofp'ash, Ikwawese, Old Quelgic, Nisukil Pʰakwi, Apsiska

shimobaatar
korean
korean
Posts: 11690
Joined: 12 Jul 2013 23:09
Location: PA → IN

Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by shimobaatar » 30 Mar 2017 21:52

Is it a verb?

User avatar
Znex
roman
roman
Posts: 1155
Joined: 12 Aug 2013 14:05
Location: Australia

Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by Znex » 30 Mar 2017 23:17

shimobaatar wrote:Is it a verb?
Getting colder...
:eng: : [tick] | :grc: :wls: : [:|] | :chn: :isr: : [:S] | :nor: :deu: :rom: :ind: :con: : [:x]
Conlangs: Pofp'ash, Ikwawese, Old Quelgic, Nisukil Pʰakwi, Apsiska

User avatar
qwed117
mongolian
mongolian
Posts: 4455
Joined: 20 Nov 2014 02:27

Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by qwed117 » 31 Mar 2017 00:26

adjective?
Spoiler:
My minicity is Zyphrazia and Novland
What is made of man will crumble away.

User avatar
Znex
roman
roman
Posts: 1155
Joined: 12 Aug 2013 14:05
Location: Australia

Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by Znex » 31 Mar 2017 11:50

qwed117 wrote:adjective?
Warmer...
:eng: : [tick] | :grc: :wls: : [:|] | :chn: :isr: : [:S] | :nor: :deu: :rom: :ind: :con: : [:x]
Conlangs: Pofp'ash, Ikwawese, Old Quelgic, Nisukil Pʰakwi, Apsiska

User avatar
qwed117
mongolian
mongolian
Posts: 4455
Joined: 20 Nov 2014 02:27

Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by qwed117 » 31 Mar 2017 13:46

Adverb?
Spoiler:
My minicity is Zyphrazia and Novland
What is made of man will crumble away.

Post Reply