Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

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Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by shimobaatar » 12 May 2018 22:52

It's not related to that, and I can't find any reference at all to it having any cognates which are bound morphemes.

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Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by Znex » 13 May 2018 00:55

Is the second part from *haifstiz?
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Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by shimobaatar » 13 May 2018 01:03

shimobaatar wrote:
12 May 2018 22:52
It's not related to that, and I can't find any reference at all to it having any cognates which are bound morphemes.
To clarify, I was able to find bound morpheme cognates of *haiduz, but I was not able to find any for any of the lemmas that make up the word I gave.

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Is the second part from *haifstiz?
No, it isn't.

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Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by qwed117 » 18 May 2018 01:46

Did the "first" morpheme begin with l? Was the first vowel a long vowel? (ie, does the PG shape equate to l*V̄$, where * is a wildcard)?
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Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by shimobaatar » 18 May 2018 01:48

qwed117 wrote:
18 May 2018 01:46
Did the "first" morpheme begin with l? Was the first vowel a long vowel? (ie, does the PG shape equate to l*V̄$, where * is a wildcard)?
Yes and no, respectively. Also, I'm not sure what the dollar sign stands for.

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Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by qwed117 » 18 May 2018 01:56

Sorry, I meant to put that $ indicates a syllable boundary.

Is there a sequence of two or more vowels in the first syllable?
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Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by shimobaatar » 18 May 2018 01:58

qwed117 wrote:
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Is there a sequence of two or more vowels in the first syllable?
No.

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Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by shimobaatar » 29 May 2018 00:33

Some hints:
  • The word is made up of a compound of two nominative singular nouns.
  • Long vowels can derive from historically nasalized vowels.

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Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by Creyeditor » 29 May 2018 00:39

Ist the first part from *liudiz?
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Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by All4Ɇn » 29 May 2018 01:09

Is the first part from *linþaz?

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Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by shimobaatar » 29 May 2018 01:19

Creyeditor wrote:
29 May 2018 00:39
Ist the first part from *liudiz?
It ist not. [:P]

I think ixals guessed this already.
All4Ɇn wrote:
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Is the first part from *linþaz?
I'm afraid not.

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Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by Clio » 29 May 2018 19:45

Is the second part from *hangistaz?
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Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by shimobaatar » 29 May 2018 19:59

Clio wrote:
29 May 2018 19:45
Is the second part from *hangistaz?
No, it isn't.

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Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by shimobaatar » 05 Jun 2018 23:27

A review of what has been determined so far:
  • The word is a compound made up of two nouns.
  • The first part of the compound was not derived from *liudiz or *linþaz.
  • The second part of the compound was not derived from *haitaną, *haiduz, *haifstiz, or *hangistaz.
  • The meaning of the word has nothing to do with Lithuania.
  • The second part of the compound does not have cognates in other Germanic languages that are derivational suffixes.
  • The first part of the compound began with *l in Proto-Germanic.
  • The first syllable of the first part of the compound contained neither a long vowel, nor a sequence of two or more vowels, in Proto-Germanic.
  • The word is made up of a compound of two nominative singular nouns.
  • Long vowels in the conlang can derive from historically nasalized vowels.


A few more hints:
  • The noun in the conlang is masculine, as was the second noun in the compound in Proto-Germanic. However, the first noun was not masculine.
  • Both nouns were two syllables long in Proto-Germanic.

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Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by spanick » 13 Jun 2018 16:40

shimobaatar wrote:
11 May 2018 00:52
Language: Modern Königsberg Northeast Germanic
Word: lídúhaists
IPA: /ˈjaɪ̯ðaʊ̯xɛːɪ̯sts/

As usual, this probably won't be too hard.
Emphasis added... [;)]

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Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by shimobaatar » 13 Jun 2018 16:59

spanick wrote:
13 Jun 2018 16:40
shimobaatar wrote:
11 May 2018 00:52
Language: Modern Königsberg Northeast Germanic
Word: lídúhaists
IPA: /ˈjaɪ̯ðaʊ̯xɛːɪ̯sts/

As usual, this probably won't be too hard.
Emphasis added...
Yeah, it's… a little frustrating, I won't lie. I usually try to come up with something that will pose an actual challenge, but those words always end up being correctly guessed after just a few tries. This time, though, I just slapped two words together and more than a month has gone by without the word's meaning being identified. I don't get it. Although, the amount of time it's taken is largely due to how little interest there seems to be for threads like this.

Another hint, because I desperately want this to keep moving along:
  • The two words making up the compound are semantically rather close.

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Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by spanick » 13 Jun 2018 22:07

shimobaatar wrote:
13 Jun 2018 16:59
spanick wrote:
13 Jun 2018 16:40
shimobaatar wrote:
11 May 2018 00:52
Language: Modern Königsberg Northeast Germanic
Word: lídúhaists
IPA: /ˈjaɪ̯ðaʊ̯xɛːɪ̯sts/

As usual, this probably won't be too hard.
Emphasis added...
Yeah, it's… a little frustrating, I won't lie. I usually try to come up with something that will pose an actual challenge, but those words always end up being correctly guessed after just a few tries. This time, though, I just slapped two words together and more than a month has gone by without the word's meaning being identified. I don't get it. Although, the amount of time it's taken is largely due to how little interest there seems to be for threads like this.

Another hint, because I desperately want this to keep moving along:
  • The two words making up the compound are semantically rather close.
*lindō + *haistraz
"linden tree/sappling"?

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Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by shimobaatar » 13 Jun 2018 23:54

spanick wrote:
13 Jun 2018 22:07
*lindō + *haistraz
"linden tree/sappling"?
Exactly!

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Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by spanick » 14 Jun 2018 00:32

shimobaatar wrote:
13 Jun 2018 23:54
spanick wrote:
13 Jun 2018 22:07
*lindō + *haistraz
"linden tree/sappling"?
Exactly!
Sweet!

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фрамазабахцхус
framazabahchus

/framazabaxt͡shuːs/

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Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

Post by shimobaatar » 14 Jun 2018 03:08

spanick wrote:
14 Jun 2018 00:32
Sortsbergish (Modern Gotski)
фрамазабахцхус
framazabahchus

/framazabaxt͡shuːs/
Is it a noun?

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