Guess the Word in Romlangs

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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Post by Jackk » 23 Dec 2018 01:40

ixals wrote:
22 Dec 2018 13:00
<???>
/sɛˈsʲjɛu̯/
Thanks for the extra info [B)]

So, <sa- -ius>... Was the suffix <-ārius>?

Wild guess: is the word a descendant of <sagittārius>? [:D]
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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Post by ixals » 23 Dec 2018 12:48

Jackk wrote:
23 Dec 2018 01:40
Was the suffix <-ārius>?
Yes!
Jackk wrote:
23 Dec 2018 01:40
Wild guess: is the word a descendant of <sagittārius>?
Nope! [:D]
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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Post by Jackk » 23 Dec 2018 12:57

Worth a try [:P]
ixals wrote:
22 Dec 2018 13:00
<???>
/sɛˈsʲjɛu̯/
So does <-ārius> correspond to the segments /ɛu̯/ in the descendant?
Also, were any intervocalic segments (apart from the /r/ in the suffix) lenited away by sound change?
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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Post by ixals » 23 Dec 2018 13:59

Jackk wrote:
23 Dec 2018 12:57
So does <-ārius> correspond to the segments /ɛu̯/ in the descendant?
Almost [:D]
Jackk wrote:
23 Dec 2018 12:57
Also, were any intervocalic segments (apart from the /r/ in the suffix) lenited away by sound change?
Yes, but at the time of deletion, the segment was not intervocalic anymore.
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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Post by Jackk » 23 Dec 2018 14:02

/jɛu̯/ then?

Did the word begin <saCV-> in Latin, where C is a stop?
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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Post by ixals » 23 Dec 2018 14:23

Yes to /jɛu̯/ and <saCV->, but the consonant was not a stop.
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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Post by spanick » 23 Dec 2018 14:31

ixals wrote:
23 Dec 2018 14:23
Yes to /jɛu̯/ and <saCV->, but the consonant was not a stop.
Was it <l>?

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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Post by ixals » 23 Dec 2018 14:45

Yes!
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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Post by spanick » 23 Dec 2018 14:48

ixals wrote:
23 Dec 2018 14:45
Yes!
Is the word from Latin salarius?

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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Post by Jackk » 23 Dec 2018 14:52

ixals wrote:
22 Dec 2018 13:00
<???>
/sɛˈsʲjɛu̯/
Is the word related to <salsicia> or perhaps <saluto>?
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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Post by ixals » 23 Dec 2018 16:45

No to all of them [:D]
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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Post by Jackk » 23 Dec 2018 16:50

Is it related to one of <salāx> "salacious" or <salīx> "willow"?
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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Post by ixals » 23 Dec 2018 17:07

Yes, the second one! [:O]
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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Post by Jackk » 23 Dec 2018 17:13

ixals wrote:
23 Dec 2018 17:07
Yes, the second one! [:O]
[:D]
So the word descends from something like <salīcitārius> "willow-like"?
Does it mean "aspirin"? [:P]
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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Post by ixals » 23 Dec 2018 17:36

No, way simpler than that [;)]
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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Post by Jackk » 23 Dec 2018 17:38

ixals wrote:
23 Dec 2018 17:36
No, way simpler than that [;)]
Just "willow tree"?
(Is it from <salīcitārius>?)
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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Post by ixals » 23 Dec 2018 17:51

Jackk wrote:
23 Dec 2018 17:38
Just "willow tree"?
Yes! [:D] Your turn!
Jackk wrote:
23 Dec 2018 17:38
(Is it from <salīcitārius>?)
Nope, just <salīx> with turned into /sai̯t͡s/ and the <-ārium> was added later on. Here's the orthography and the phonological development:

(/ˈaːrjũ/ > /ˈi̯er/ > /jɛu̯/)
/ˈsa.li.kẽ/ > /ˈsaʎd͡z/ + /ie̯r/ > /sai̯ˈt͡sjel/ > /sɛˈsʲjɛu̯/ <saicèr>
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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Post by Jackk » 23 Dec 2018 17:53

ixals wrote:
23 Dec 2018 17:51
Jackk wrote:
23 Dec 2018 17:38
Just "willow tree"?
Yes! [:D] Your turn!
Woo! I'll post something later today. Excellent word! [:D]
ixals wrote:
23 Dec 2018 17:51
Nope, just <salīx> with turned into /sai̯t͡s/ and the <-ārium> was added later on. Here's the orthography and the phonological development:

(/ˈaːrjũ/ > /ˈi̯er/ > /jɛu̯/)
/ˈsa.li.kẽ/ > /ˈsaʎd͡z/ + /ie̯r/ > /sai̯ˈt͡sjel/ > /sɛˈsʲjɛu̯/ <saicèr>
Very nice! [:D]
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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Post by Jackk » 24 Dec 2018 03:16

Next: (not from Boral [:O] )
barbia paiuvéi
/ˈbarbi.a ˌpajuˈvej/
[ˈbɑɻbja paj(ʊ)ˈvej]
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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Post by shimobaatar » 24 Dec 2018 03:29

My first thought was "beard rain", but I doubt that's it.

Is it a noun phrase?

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