Guess the Word in Romlangs

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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Post by Jackk » 12 Nov 2018 01:36

e. As in, does the ancestor of the first word have 2 syllables, and does the ancestor of the second word have 3 syllables?
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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Post by spanick » 12 Nov 2018 01:41

Does. The adjective descend directly from an adjective in Latin?

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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Post by Jackk » 12 Nov 2018 01:45

Is chabrijne from glabrescentem "balding"?
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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Post by shimobaatar » 12 Nov 2018 01:51

Jackk wrote:
12 Nov 2018 01:36
e. As in, does the ancestor of the first word have 2 syllables, and does the ancestor of the second word have 3 syllables?
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spanick wrote:
12 Nov 2018 01:41
Does. The adjective descend directly from an adjective in Latin?
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Jackk wrote:
12 Nov 2018 01:45
Is chabrijne from glabrescentem "balding"?
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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Post by spanick » 12 Nov 2018 01:54

Does the adjective mean Welsh?

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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

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spanick wrote:
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Does the adjective mean Welsh?
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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Post by spanick » 12 Nov 2018 02:04

Does <ch> deescend from <c> before <a>?

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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

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spanick wrote:
12 Nov 2018 02:04
Does <ch> deescend from <c> before <a>?
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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Post by Jackk » 13 Nov 2018 13:14

is chabrijne a cognate of "Capricorn"?
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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Post by shimobaatar » 13 Nov 2018 13:38

Jackk wrote:
13 Nov 2018 13:14
is chabrijne a cognate of "Capricorn"?
Not 100%*, but you're definitely on the right track.

*By that I mean it doesn't contain all of the morphemes present in the Classical Latin "Capricornus".

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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Post by Jackk » 13 Nov 2018 15:39

Is it from caprīnus "goat-like"?
Does samde descend from a word beginning <sam->?
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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Post by Znex » 13 Nov 2018 15:51

Does samde derive from *sambatum or *sambati dies?
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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

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Jackk wrote:
13 Nov 2018 15:39
Is it from caprīnus "goat-like"?
Does samde descend from a word beginning <sam->?
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Znex wrote:
13 Nov 2018 15:51
Does samde derive from *sambatum or *sambati dies?
[tick] *sambatum

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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Post by spanick » 13 Nov 2018 21:23

Does this have something to do with like Baphomet or Witches' Sabbath? Cause otherwise, I'm kinda confused by goat-like Saturday haha

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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Post by shimobaatar » 14 Nov 2018 00:18

spanick wrote:
13 Nov 2018 21:23
Does this have something to do with like Baphomet or Witches' Sabbath? Cause otherwise, I'm kinda confused by goat-like Saturday haha
You got it! Samde Chabrijne, or "Caprine Saturday", means "Witches' Sabbath". I recently learned that the word in Spanish, aquelarre, seems to be derived from a Basque compound of "buck, he-goat" and "meadow".

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"Le Samde Chabrijne", au "El Aquelarre" nil'espainnole, es una uobra pentgada de Francisco de Goya durande le sjegle XVIIIe.
[lə ˈsɛ̃ːndə ʃəˈbrãɪ̯nə | o əl akəˈlɛːrə nilespəˈɲoːlə | es unɔ ˈwoːbrɔ pə̃nˈd͡ʒɛːdɔ də frə̃nˈʃiːsko də ˈgoːjɔ dʉˈrɛ̃ːndə lə ˈʃeːgɫə d͡ʒəˈʃɛːwə]
"Witches' Sabbath", or "El Aquelarre" in Spanish, is a painting by Francisco Goya from the 18th century.

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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Post by Znex » 14 Nov 2018 00:35

shimobaatar wrote:
14 Nov 2018 00:18
You got it! Samde Chabrijne, or "Caprine Saturday", means "Witches' Sabbath". I recently learned that the word in Spanish, aquelarre, seems to be derived from a Basque compound of "buck, he-goat" and "meadow".
A lot of the basic ideas of the "Witches' Sabbath" show great inspiration from pagan Basque religious customs, particularly the worship of a black goat god (Akerbeltz) and goat (and maybe human) sacrifices, ceremonies conducted in the mountains (where the Basque gods were said to dwell), and the use and make of hallucinogens (which later morphed in medieval imagination into the "witches' brew", and perhaps even the witchy fetishisation of brooms).

It's quite fascinating that there are so many parallels with Basque mythology, and yet nowadays we know so little of it compared to the Indo-European mythologies for instance.
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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Post by spanick » 14 Nov 2018 02:12

shimobaatar wrote:
14 Nov 2018 00:18
spanick wrote:
13 Nov 2018 21:23
Does this have something to do with like Baphomet or Witches' Sabbath? Cause otherwise, I'm kinda confused by goat-like Saturday haha
You got it! Samde Chabrijne, or "Caprine Saturday", means "Witches' Sabbath". I recently learned that the word in Spanish, aquelarre, seems to be derived from a Basque compound of "buck, he-goat" and "meadow".

Spoiler:
Image

"Le Samde Chabrijne", au "El Aquelarre" nil'espainnole, es una uobra pentgada de Francisco de Goya durande le sjegle XVIIIe.
[lə ˈsɛ̃ːndə ʃəˈbrãɪ̯nə | o əl akəˈlɛːrə nilespəˈɲoːlə | es unɔ ˈwoːbrɔ pə̃nˈd͡ʒɛːdɔ də frə̃nˈʃiːsko də ˈgoːjɔ dʉˈrɛ̃ːndə lə ˈʃeːgɫə d͡ʒəˈʃɛːwə]
"Witches' Sabbath", or "El Aquelarre" in Spanish, is a painting by Francisco Goya from the 18th century.
Wow! Great word!

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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Post by GrandPiano » 14 Nov 2018 05:05

Is it a noun?
:eng: - Native
:chn: - B2
:esp: - A2
:jpn: - A2

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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Post by spanick » 14 Nov 2018 05:23

GrandPiano wrote:
14 Nov 2018 05:05
Is it a noun?
It can be used as a noun.

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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Post by shimobaatar » 14 Nov 2018 05:35

spanick wrote:
14 Nov 2018 02:12
Wow! Great word!
Thank you! [:D]
Znex wrote:
14 Nov 2018 00:35
A lot of the basic ideas of the "Witches' Sabbath" show great inspiration from pagan Basque religious customs, particularly the worship of a black goat god (Akerbeltz) and goat (and maybe human) sacrifices, ceremonies conducted in the mountains (where the Basque gods were said to dwell), and the use and make of hallucinogens (which later morphed in medieval imagination into the "witches' brew", and perhaps even the witchy fetishisation of brooms).

It's quite fascinating that there are so many parallels with Basque mythology, and yet nowadays we know so little of it compared to the Indo-European mythologies for instance.
Yeah, that's generally what I've been seeing as I've been trying to read more about the topic. It is indeed fascinating. It's a shame that their customs were demonized, but unfortunately not unexpected.

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Next:
júredu
/ʒaurədʌ/
Does /ʒ/ derive from a velar stop in Classical Latin?

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