1½ (One and a Half)

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1½ (One and a Half)

Post by Lambuzhao » 07 Mar 2018 14:03

Trying to figure out an Old English equivalent to :lat: sesqui- [:S]

Found some interesting divagations. If your conlang has a special stand-alone word and/or combining infix for 'one-and-a-half', post it here. Be sure to mention any special usage notes (E.G. odd (relictual) declensional pattern, dedicated cases used with it, is it used to mean '1:30', etc).

:lat:

*semisque > sesqui
half=CNJ
half and (again)


:deu:


anderthalb
other.half
NB: Originally, the /andert/ morpheme meant 'second'. This would mean the word orginally meant something like 'a second half (again)' or somesuch.


:rus:

полтора́ (m,n) ; полторы́ (f)
[pol.to.ra'] [pol.to.rɨ']
half=second
NB: In the nominative and accusative, this number governs the genitive singular of the noun. In all of the other cases, it governs the plural of the noun.
NB2: The declension reminds me of the quasi-extinct Dual. Cf: два • (m, n), две (f) 'two', and о́ба (m, n), о́бе (f) 'both', as does the special Case governances.


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ημιόλιος (m) ; ημιολία (f) ; ημιόλιον (n)
[hε.mjo.ljos] [hε.mjo.li:.a] [hε.mjo.ljon]
half.whole<ADJZ>
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Re: 1½ (One and a Half)

Post by Lambuzhao » 07 Mar 2018 14:19

An interesting article I found along my way:

B Garczyński -A short research of Danish cardinal and ordinal numerals on Indo-European Background

https://www.degruyter.com/downloadpdf/j ... 5-0002.pdf

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Re: 1½ (One and a Half)

Post by Iyionaku » 07 Mar 2018 14:42

:deu:

In German, there is also a regular construction: eineinhalb (one-and-half), analogous to zweieinhalb, dreieinhalb, viereinhalb.... "anderthalb" is still more common, both in written and spoken language, but "eineinhalb" quickly closes up.

:chn: Mandarin

In Mandarin, the structure is 一 "one" + classifier + "半 half".

一个半星期 yī gè bàn xīngqī - one and a half weeks
一家半博物馆 yī jiā bàn bówùguǎn - one and a half museums
一年半 yī nián bàn - one and a half years

:con: Yélian

In Yélian, there is a separate word for "one and a half": meirai, derived from "mia è rai" > "mierai" > "meirai"
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Re: 1½ (One and a Half)

Post by Reyzadren » 07 Mar 2018 23:38

:con: griuskant (without the conscript)

1.5
/'ruskgəzˤhuitʃ/
1.decimal.5
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Re: 1½ (One and a Half)

Post by elemtilas » 08 Mar 2018 00:22

Lambuzhao wrote:
07 Mar 2018 14:03
Trying to figure out an Old English equivalent to :lat: sesqui- [:S]

Found some interesting divagations. If your conlang has a special stand-alone word and/or combining infix for 'one-and-a-half', post it here. Be sure to mention any special usage notes (E.G. odd (relictual) declensional pattern, dedicated cases used with it, is it used to mean '1:30', etc).
Queranaran has words for "more than half" and "less than half" of a group - - - not what you're looking for!

Talarian doesn't have proper singular forms for naturally dual nouns. You'd have to say half the two-feet.

More to the point, English does have threehalf- usually in connection with some unit of measure or currency. Probably the longest lived is threehalfpence, obviously being worth 1 1/2 d.

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Re: 1½ (One and a Half)

Post by Lambuzhao » 09 Mar 2018 20:56

threehalf
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Re: 1½ (One and a Half)

Post by Creyeditor » 11 Mar 2018 01:27

Iyionaku wrote:
07 Mar 2018 14:42
:deu:

In German, there is also a regular construction: eineinhalb (one-and-half), analogous to zweieinhalb, dreieinhalb, viereinhalb.... "anderthalb" is still more common, both in written and spoken language, but "eineinhalb" quickly closes up.
If we include colloquial variants there is also

einundhalb
ein-und-halb
one-and-half

This one is the most regular of the three constructions. I often hear it in colloquial speech, where it is also used for higher numbers.

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The construction I heard is the following:

satu se-tengah
one one-half
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Re: 1½ (One and a Half)

Post by k1234567890y » 11 Apr 2018 20:56

:con: Lonmai Luna

hi mop ta-dam
one plus 2^-1
1½ (One and a Half)

The particle dam is used to indicate the inverse of the preceding numeral
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Re: 1½ (One and a Half)

Post by eldin raigmore » 12 Apr 2018 00:09

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Re: 1½ (One and a Half)

Post by spanick » 12 Apr 2018 02:40

:con: Sortsbergish

azerhaobs
“One and a half; Lit. second.half”

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Re: 1½ (One and a Half)

Post by Fluffy8x » 11 May 2018 03:28

:con: Ḋraħýl Rase

ṫak ṡaga
three half

Mixed fractions are not allowed, since conjunction is done through juxtaposition, which could be confused with a coëfficient.

:con: Arka

ko o tifa
one and half

... At least that's my best guess at it.
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