A Universe Within Us

A forum for translations, translation challenges etc. Good place to increase your conlang's vocabulary.
User avatar
Lambuzhao
korean
korean
Posts: 7777
Joined: 13 May 2012 01:57

A Universe Within Us

Post by Lambuzhao » 23 Dec 2018 13:31

Not much more than that. Really, that's all that needs to be said, in a way.

Taken from Oleksii Chekal's snuschusly intoxicating Greek Calligraphy page:
https://www.behance.net/gallery/2767873 ... alligraphy

If one could vape letters, I vaped Bold Byzantine Ornate Initials and deftly swashing miniscules & incunabulæ til I could take it no longer.



:ell: Τὸ σύμπαν μέσα μας

DEF.N.NOM.SG entirety.NOM.SG PRP 1PL.OBJ

The universe is within us.
Mebbe More Lit.: Everything is within us.

User avatar
Lambuzhao
korean
korean
Posts: 7777
Joined: 13 May 2012 01:57

Re: A Universe Within Us

Post by Lambuzhao » 23 Dec 2018 13:38

I enjoy this phrase immensely b/c the connecting verb is absent, which sort of ellipsis isn't illegal at all in :ell: grammar (the Greeks invented the term after all [}:D] ) , yet it was as if the author was afraid to acknowledge the unholy union of the Self to the Universe (!) , and make that final connection; it's as if the author leaves that philosophical knit-knottedry up to the reader.

[;)]

User avatar
Lambuzhao
korean
korean
Posts: 7777
Joined: 13 May 2012 01:57

Re: A Universe Within Us

Post by Lambuzhao » 23 Dec 2018 13:43

:con: Çedara


La oña sue ino nœ.
DEF.F.SG all.N.PL sit<PRS.ACT.INDIC>3SG PRP 1PL.DAT


:con: Rozwi

Ɂol ienena feiklitmetžeič veztek.
PRP 1PL.LOC pool.thread.10,000.similtude live<PRS>3SG

User avatar
Reyzadren
sinic
sinic
Posts: 423
Joined: 14 May 2017 09:39
Contact:

Re: A Universe Within Us

Post by Reyzadren » 23 Dec 2018 14:52

:con: griuskant (without the conscript)

ijyalroek ijhaupsiukia aeskes.
/'idʒjalrɯk 'idʒhaupsiukia 'eskəs/
advanced-world advanced-phase-PL-in-A-V 1PL
Image Soundcloud Profile | Image griuskant conlang

User avatar
Dormouse559
moderator
moderator
Posts: 2760
Joined: 10 Nov 2012 20:52
Location: California

Re: A Universe Within Us

Post by Dormouse559 » 24 Dec 2018 21:42

:con: Silvish

L' univer l' e ddyun neû.
[ly.niˈvɛʁ lɛˈdjœ̃ŋ ˈnœː]
DEF universe 3S be.3S.PRS.IND in 1P.DISJ
The universe is within us.

User avatar
elemtilas
runic
runic
Posts: 3466
Joined: 22 Nov 2014 04:48

Re: A Universe Within Us

Post by elemtilas » 25 Dec 2018 06:32

Lambuzhao wrote:
23 Dec 2018 13:38
I enjoy this phrase immensely b/c the connecting verb is absent, which sort of ellipsis isn't illegal at all in :ell: grammar (the Greeks invented the term after all [}:D] ) , yet it was as if the author was afraid to acknowledge the unholy union of the Self to the Universe (!) , and make that final connection; it's as if the author leaves that philosophical knit-knottedry up to the reader.

[;)]
hostanuççexomrâm-cos mesa-han-tami wásati

A rather complex sentence, that!

Syntactically, a Universe is a kind of living organism of willful capacities. Thus it takes the agent -âm form along with a durative verbal conjugation. The verb wasam, be, in the durative takes on the notion of “condescend to inhabit”, “desire to abide within”. We do not actually choose a universe to be within us so much as a universe chooses its vessel.

Contrary to the Greek, Talarian does not allow for such shennanigans. But the universally understood concepts of agency & volition & matters existential demand a rather different expression. It can not be said that something as dynamic and living as universe is equatable to a static and unmoving mass or lump.
Image

If we stuff the whole chicken back into the egg, will all our problems go away? --- Wandalf of Angera

User avatar
Imralu
roman
roman
Posts: 905
Joined: 17 Nov 2013 22:32

Re: A Universe Within Us

Post by Imralu » 25 Dec 2018 12:17

:tan: Swahili

Ulimwengu umo ndani yetu.
ulimwengu u-mo ndani y-etu
(CL11/14?)universe CL11/14?-REL.CL18 (CL9)inside CL9-GEN.1P
The universe is inside is.

(Umo could be replaced with uko more generally/colloquially. Umo would be used more rarely but helps emphasise the internality of "inside".)
Glossing Abbreviations: COMP = comparative, C = complementiser, ACS / ICS = accessible / inaccessible, GDV = gerundive, SPEC / NSPC = specific / non-specific, AG = agent, E = entity (person, animal, thing)
________
MY MUSIC

User avatar
Imralu
roman
roman
Posts: 905
Joined: 17 Nov 2013 22:32

Re: A Universe Within Us

Post by Imralu » 25 Dec 2018 12:23

:con: Ngolu/Iliaqu

Xa vua inua xu vaqu.
[ʃá vwâ‿jnwá ʃú vaʔû]
inside LOC.2S.ICS LOC.1P.ICS NOM.3S.DEF.INAN universe
The universe is inside us.
Glossing Abbreviations: COMP = comparative, C = complementiser, ACS / ICS = accessible / inaccessible, GDV = gerundive, SPEC / NSPC = specific / non-specific, AG = agent, E = entity (person, animal, thing)
________
MY MUSIC

User avatar
Lambuzhao
korean
korean
Posts: 7777
Joined: 13 May 2012 01:57

Re: A Universe Within Us

Post by Lambuzhao » 25 Dec 2018 16:37

elemtilas wrote:
25 Dec 2018 06:32
Lambuzhao wrote:
23 Dec 2018 13:38
I enjoy this phrase immensely b/c the connecting verb is absent, which sort of ellipsis isn't illegal at all in :ell: grammar (the Greeks invented the term after all [}:D] ) , yet it was as if the author was afraid to acknowledge the unholy union of the Self to the Universe (!) , and make that final connection; it's as if the author leaves that philosophical knit-knottedry up to the reader.

[;)]
hostanuççexomrâm-cos mesa-han-tami wásati

A rather complex sentence, that!

Syntactically, a Universe is a kind of living organism of willful capacities. Thus it takes the agent -âm form along with a durative verbal conjugation. The verb wasam, be, in the durative takes on the notion of “condescend to inhabit”, “desire to abide within”. We do not actually choose a universe to be within us so much as a universe chooses its vessel.

Contrary to the Greek, Talarian does not allow for such shennanigans. But the universally understood concepts of agency & volition & matters existential demand a rather different expression. It can not be said that something as dynamic and living as universe is equatable to a static and unmoving mass or lump.

fflátâ oram!!

petanarçafflatanhe takahan pancatapelewarktasihan teyo sactâlemtilelhan!

:mrgreen:

User avatar
Lambuzhao
korean
korean
Posts: 7777
Joined: 13 May 2012 01:57

Re: A Universe Within Us

Post by Lambuzhao » 25 Dec 2018 16:43

Dormouse559 wrote:
24 Dec 2018 21:42
:con: Silvish

L' univer l' e ddyin neû.
[ly.niˈvɛʁ lɛˈdjɛ̃ŋ ˈnœː]
DEF universe 3S be.3S.PRS.IND in 1P.DISJ
The universe is within us.
Marchì!
Goiós Naral e buona annada!!

:mrgreen:

User avatar
Lambuzhao
korean
korean
Posts: 7777
Joined: 13 May 2012 01:57

Re: A Universe Within Us

Post by Lambuzhao » 25 Dec 2018 16:55

Imralu wrote:
25 Dec 2018 12:23
:con: Ngolu/Iliaqu

Xa vua inua xu vaqu.
[ʃá vwâ‿jnwá ʃú vaʔû]
inside LOC.2S.ICS LOC.1P.ICS NOM.3S.DEF.INAN universe
The universe is inside us.
Asante nsana!
[:D]

User avatar
Imralu
roman
roman
Posts: 905
Joined: 17 Nov 2013 22:32

Re: A Universe Within Us

Post by Imralu » 25 Dec 2018 16:57

Lambuzhao wrote:
25 Dec 2018 16:55
Asante nsana!
[:D]
Karibu!
Glossing Abbreviations: COMP = comparative, C = complementiser, ACS / ICS = accessible / inaccessible, GDV = gerundive, SPEC / NSPC = specific / non-specific, AG = agent, E = entity (person, animal, thing)
________
MY MUSIC

User avatar
Lambuzhao
korean
korean
Posts: 7777
Joined: 13 May 2012 01:57

Re: A Universe Within Us

Post by Lambuzhao » 25 Dec 2018 16:58

Imralu wrote:
25 Dec 2018 12:23
:con: Ngolu/Iliaqu

Xa vua inua xu vaqu.
[ʃá vwâ‿jnwá ʃú vaʔû]
inside LOC.2S.ICS LOC.1P.ICS NOM.3S.DEF.INAN universe
The universe is inside us.
ba teua nu eui!

User avatar
Imralu
roman
roman
Posts: 905
Joined: 17 Nov 2013 22:32

Re: A Universe Within Us

Post by Imralu » 25 Dec 2018 17:10

Lambuzhao wrote:
25 Dec 2018 16:58
ba teua nu eui!
Bava matta! Tazu vu!
entirely correct | skilled NOM.2S.ICS
Glossing Abbreviations: COMP = comparative, C = complementiser, ACS / ICS = accessible / inaccessible, GDV = gerundive, SPEC / NSPC = specific / non-specific, AG = agent, E = entity (person, animal, thing)
________
MY MUSIC

User avatar
Dormouse559
moderator
moderator
Posts: 2760
Joined: 10 Nov 2012 20:52
Location: California

Re: A Universe Within Us

Post by Dormouse559 » 25 Dec 2018 17:48

Lambuzhao wrote:
25 Dec 2018 16:43
Marchì!
Goiós Naral e buona annada!!

:mrgreen:
Jou metrê a djour plû souvin mou rrinsenyaman desus lû silvoû, mê insi jou verrê mwì lou silvoù vyé.
I'd update my information on Silvish more often, but then I'd see less old Silvish.
[:D]

Modernou :
Marchoù !
Halanda jouyeuza e bbon-' anneya !!

User avatar
elemtilas
runic
runic
Posts: 3466
Joined: 22 Nov 2014 04:48

Re: A Universe Within Us

Post by elemtilas » 26 Dec 2018 03:27

Lambuzhao wrote:
25 Dec 2018 16:37
petanarçafflatanhe takahan pancatapelewarktasihan teyo sactâlemtilelhan!
:mrgreen:
Image
Image

If we stuff the whole chicken back into the egg, will all our problems go away? --- Wandalf of Angera

User avatar
masako
mayan
mayan
Posts: 1997
Joined: 12 Aug 2010 15:42
Location: 가매
Contact:

Re: A Universe Within Us

Post by masako » 26 Dec 2018 13:28

Kala:

ke kata enankua nahe
O universe P.1pl.INLC be.inside
The universe is inside us.

User avatar
Jackk
greek
greek
Posts: 837
Joined: 04 Aug 2012 12:08
Location: tamed.speaks.points

Re: A Universe Within Us

Post by Jackk » 26 Dec 2018 15:17

Boral:
l'univers afont nous
/liniˈvɛrs aˈfɔnt nu/ [linɪˈvæɐ̯s ɐˈvɔnːu]
def=universe within 1p.dsj
Eresse anga paris cur neduc, a san teonga.
The only thing more dangerous than doubt is certainty.

User avatar
Lambuzhao
korean
korean
Posts: 7777
Joined: 13 May 2012 01:57

Re: A Universe Within Us

Post by Lambuzhao » 27 Dec 2018 03:14

masako wrote:
26 Dec 2018 13:28
Kala:

ke kata enankua nahe
O universe P.1pl.INLC be.inside
The universe is inside us.
Spoiler:
Image
nyasampa ~ od ihme uŋzoržewiriθ!
[:)]
[/quote]

User avatar
Lambuzhao
korean
korean
Posts: 7777
Joined: 13 May 2012 01:57

Re: A Universe Within Us

Post by Lambuzhao » 27 Dec 2018 03:15

Imralu wrote:
25 Dec 2018 17:10
Lambuzhao wrote:
25 Dec 2018 16:58
ba teua nu eui!
Bava matta! Tazu vu!
entirely correct | skilled NOM.2S.ICS
:mrgreen:

Post Reply