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Post by Ahzoh » 08 Sep 2014 18:23

Do you think a blade design in the shape of aurochs' horns would be good design for a polearm?
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Ahzoh wrote:Do you think a blade design in the shape of aurochs' horns would be good design for a polearm?
No. The shape of the horns is mostly designed for protection, and from up close at that. They're not shaped in the proper way to transfer force optimally if applied with leverage. I'd probably go about designing the weapon to more closely resemble a ranseur, adding a central spearhead for offense, using the "horns" to catch an enemy's weapon and potentially disarm them.
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Post by Ahzoh » 09 Sep 2014 05:01

I suppose "bull horns' wasn't a good description, I was thinking more along the lines of this, maybe with a hook at the back:
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At the very least, it would be like the Middle-Eastern equivalent of a naginata but with a scimitar like this or this for the blade head and with exaggerated curvature.

In regards to my design, I assume it would provide more cutting surface at the sacrifice of some length, at least by the same principles as a khopesh.
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Post by Ahzoh » 18 Sep 2014 20:26

If my conculture domesticated desert cassowary, could they ride them?
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Ahzoh wrote:If my conculture domesticated desert cassowary, could they ride them?
Are they big enough to ride? If ostriches and emus can be steeds, perhaps so can cassowaries.
People do ride ostriches. I do not know that anyone has ever ridden them the way people ride horses, though; that is, as a regular thing, in order to work or to get from one place to another or whatever, rather than as an entertainment or a novelty.
Yahoo! Answers has stuff about riding emus, but Wikipedia doesn't ANAICT.

If I remember correctly, and assuming I understood it, ostriches and emus are suitable steeds for lighter people -- women, adolescents, thin folks, etc. Also, IIRC, people who've ridden them and also ridden horses say the horses are noticeably more comfortable to ride. Sorry, don't have a reference; maybe I'm wrong.

Cassowaries might just be barely too small to ride. Or might not. I don't know.

Destriers like Percherons are bigger than ordinary horses, though, because of breeding; maybe your folk could breed cassowaries the right size.

Cassowaries have a reputation as being very ill-tempered. Perhaps, though, if they're domesticated, so your conpeople control their breeding, they'll be able to selectively breed them to be more docile; or, maybe, they can take advantage of a mutation towards docility like happened in house-cats IRL.

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Post by Lambuzhao » 19 Sep 2014 02:10

I remember when I used to visit emus (and other critters) regularly at the local zoo. They are not as big as an ostrich, though their legs & leg-joints are a little stumpier/thicker. Like Eldin suggests, I do not think an emu would make a good general "steed", and an ostrich marginally better. A cassowary is supposed to be smaller than an emu, so I do not think an average wild cassowary would be a good mount for riding. If they lived in the desert, successive generations might become even more gracile, lissome, and therefore "weaker" (as a pack animal) in the wild.

Nonetheless, like llamas, they could be bred as is for carrying loads & burdens. In that respect, they would be at least as useful as llamas continue to be today. Emus might have a little more stamina in this regard.

And dog-earing from Eldin's post a little further, there's every possibility that such pack-ratites could be bred a little bigger and bigger to eventually accommodate full-sized conperson riders, in addition to slimmer confolk/conchildren/conjockeys.

On still another note, they could be some other type of ratite that happens to be extinct here, but somehow survived and flourished on Ahzoh's world. In that case, you'd have two great heavyweight contenders for domestication:

the Moa ( Dinornis spp.)
the Elephant Bird (Aepyorinis)
These two are more than hefty enough to function as a rideable mount:
http://www.teara.govt.nz/files/di-11361-enz.gif

The birds in question might've been named "cassowary" because, maybe, they grew prominent crests like the Cassowary (or Lambeosaurus, Parasaurolophus or Corythosaurus, or Tsintaosaurus for that matter). Or maybe even a tail-less, thickly feathered dinosaur-descendant, a la Dougal Dixon's Tromble:
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5208/523 ... d95a_b.jpg
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Incidentally, male cassowaries also have an elongated claw on their foot for kicking/impaling/slashing for defense/courtship battle.

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Post by Lambuzhao » 19 Sep 2014 02:13

eldin raigmore wrote:Cassowaries have a reputation as being very ill-tempered. Perhaps, though, if they're domesticated, so your conpeople control their breeding, they'll be able to selectively breed them to be more docile; or, maybe, they can take advantage of a mutation towards docility like happened in house-cats IRL.
Why breed it out? After all, donkeys are known for being stubborn & kicking, and llamas & camels are known for spitting... IMHO it adds character.

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Post by Ahzoh » 19 Sep 2014 02:43

Lambuzhao wrote:I remember when I used to visit emus (and other critters) regularly at the local zoo. They are not as big as an ostrich, though their legs & leg-joints are a little stumpier/thicker. Like Eldin suggests, I do not think an emu would make a good general "steed", and an ostrich marginally better. A cassowary is supposed to be smaller than an emu, so I do not think an average wild cassowary would be a good mount for riding. If they lived in the desert, successive generations might become even more gracile, lissome, and therefore "weaker" (as a pack animal) in the wild.

Nonetheless, like llamas, they could be bred as is for carrying loads & burdens. In that respect, they would be at least as useful as llamas continue to be today. Emus might have a little more stamina in this regard.

And dog-earing from Eldin's post a little further, there's every possibility that such pack-ratites could be bred a little bigger and bigger to eventually accommodate full-sized conperson riders, in addition to slimmer confolk/conchildren/conjockeys.

On still another note, they could be some other type of ratite that happens to be extinct here, but somehow survived and flourished on Ahzoh's world. In that case, you'd have two great heavyweight contenders for domestication:

the Moa ( Dinornis spp.)
the Elephant Bird (Aepyorinis)
These two are more than hefty enough to function as a rideable mount:
http://www.teara.govt.nz/files/di-11361-enz.gif

The birds in question might've been named "cassowary" because, maybe, they grew prominent crests like the Cassowary (or Lambeosaurus, Parasaurolophus or Corythosaurus, or Tsintaosaurus for that matter). Or maybe even a tail-less, thickly feathered dinosaur-descendant, a la Dougal Dixon's Tromble:
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5208/523 ... d95a_b.jpg
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Incidentally, male cassowaries also have an elongated claw on their foot for kicking/impaling/slashing for defense/courtship battle.

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I have an idea: Camels are the transport trucks of the desert while Cassowaries would be the pick-up truck [:P]
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Post by Salmoneus » 19 Sep 2014 14:30

The cassowary thing was actually meant to be a joke. We weren't literally saying you needed vocabulary around cassowaries, or that your culture needed cassowaries. It was just an example - we expected you'd respond with some creativity of your own.

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Post by Ahzoh » 19 Sep 2014 15:28

Salmoneus wrote:The cassowary thing was actually meant to be a joke. We weren't literally saying you needed vocabulary around cassowaries, or that your culture needed cassowaries. It was just an example - we expected you'd respond with some creativity of your own.
I'm aware of that. I have vocabulary focusing on crows and vultures; the "sacred" birds.
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Ahzoh wrote:I have an idea: Camels are the transport trucks of the desert while Cassowaries would be the pick-up truck [:P]
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Post by Ahzoh » 07 Oct 2014 20:22

I have a description of Vrkhazh:
"The very south of Vrkhazh is a tropical region with soil suitable for farming. There is a sea to west of Vrkhazh and another nation to the east, in a region known to the Vrkhazh as Himāq, an ancestral homeland of the Vrkhazh.
To the very north is a large mountain past the territorial range of Vrkhazh that causes the very north-east region of Vrkhazh to be very cold and snowy. The rest of Vrkhazh is arid and semi-arid."
Is this plausible? What would the directions of air (warm and cold) be like?

I have a hard time visualizing this landmass, though... I wonder if someone could suggest a possible design... Based on the description.
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Ahzoh wrote:I have a description of Vrkhazh:
"The very south of Vrkhazh is a tropical region with soil suitable for farming. There is a sea to west of Vrkhazh and another nation to the east, in a region known to the Vrkhazh as Himāq, an ancestral homeland of the Vrkhazh.
To the very north is a large mountain past the territorial range of Vrkhazh that causes the very north-east region of Vrkhazh to be very cold and snowy. The rest of Vrkhazh is arid and semi-arid."
Is this plausible? What would the directions of air (warm and cold) be like?

I have a hard time visualizing this landmass, though... I wonder if someone could suggest a possible design... Based on the description.
If the rest of Vrkhazh is arid and semi-arid, chances are the prevailing winds are being blocked by the mountain range from reaching most of it.
Certainly, chances are, there's little wind blowing in from the ocean.
So the prevailing winds would be the wind from the north (being blocked by the mountain(s)) and the wind from the east (which has already dropped most of its rain on Himaq).

Just a guess; tried to make it a (quasi-)smart one.

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Post by Ahzoh » 13 Oct 2014 06:04

Does anyone know what this is? The cutting edge is on the outside curve. It's apparently not a sickle, hook, pick or reaver. When the owner took a few swings of it, they said it felt like it was intended as a weapon. It is also described as: "Its got a handle designed for one hand, bound in wood or leather for grip. Its base construction is almost entirely metal. It is clearly designed to apply lever force from a swing motion to the sharp point. The point it has is not durable enough for mining rock, long enough to be useful for cutting grasses, nor short enough to cut small leaves like mistletoe."
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I wonder what the colours of my flag could represent:
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The wings represent crows, a highly valued bird, while the symbol represents a cultural hero.
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Post by Dezinaa » 23 Oct 2014 02:38

I saw a map of Middle Earth, and realized there is a basically square mountain range around Mordor. Would that even be possible on a conworld?

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Post by Xonen » 25 Oct 2014 15:06

Dezinaa wrote:I saw a map of Middle Earth, and realized there is a basically square mountain range around Mordor. Would that even be possible on a conworld?
Well, anything's possible in a conworld. [;)] But in a realistic conworld with earthlike plate tectonics, I would, until a few minutes ago, have assumed "no". But of course someone on the Interwebz has already actually studied this, and turns out I would've been wrong.

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Post by Lambuzhao » 26 Oct 2014 04:36

Ahzoh wrote:Does anyone know what this is? The cutting edge is on the outside curve. It's apparently not a sickle, hook, pick or reaver. When the owner took a few swings of it, they said it felt like it was intended as a weapon. It is also described as: "Its got a handle designed for one hand, bound in wood or leather for grip. Its base construction is almost entirely metal. It is clearly designed to apply lever force from a swing motion to the sharp point. The point it has is not durable enough for mining rock, long enough to be useful for cutting grasses, nor short enough to cut small leaves like mistletoe."
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IMHG it's a lumberjack tool, used to help move logs along in the water, with the smaller recurved blade used to prune smaller branches and foliage that stick out from the log.

Or, it could be an old cetacean-gutting/blubber-cutting tool used by whalers.

It could be an African throwing knife...but it does not look weighted properly.
But these are complete guesses.

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Post by Lambuzhao » 26 Oct 2014 04:48

Ahzoh wrote:I wonder what the colours of my flag could represent:
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The wings represent crows, a highly valued bird, while the symbol represents a cultural hero.
The black may also represent "whither the crow flies" i.e. maybe a Vrkazh concept of "Lebensraum".

The symbol of the hero is in red, evoking the whole "blood of the ancestors" motif, i.e. "the symbol is red because his/her blood flows in us" {unless, of course, their blood is not red}

The blue color could mean anything, but for some reason it reminded me of how Native American, Turkic, and othe rcultures associate cardinal directions with psrticular colors.
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Xonen wrote:
Dezinaa wrote:I saw a map of Middle Earth, and realized there is a basically square mountain range around Mordor. Would that even be possible on a conworld?
Well, anything's possible in a conworld. [;)] But in a realistic conworld with earthlike plate tectonics, I would, until a few minutes ago, have assumed "no". But of course someone on the Interwebz has already actually studied this, and turns out I would've been wrong.
Cool!
What I was always troubled by (though mildly, because I repressed it) was, "what the heck is mithril, chemically; and what if any is the justification for calling it "truesilver"?
I wonder if the article is available online? or for free? (preferably both).

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