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Re: British Romance Language Collablang

Post by samsam » 18 Aug 2018 15:22

57. C
58. D
59. B
60. B
61. B
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Re: British Romance Language Collablang

Post by shimobaatar » 18 Aug 2018 15:29

Actually, I have a question regarding #57 ("Should phonemic length develop?" - emphasis mine). Even if we end up going with option a (/VCə/ > /VːCə/) or b (/ˈV/ > /ˈVː/), vowel length still wouldn't be phonemic, at least not immediately, would it? Wouldn't it be more like /VCə/ > [VːCə] or /ˈV/ > [ˈVː]?

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Re: British Romance Language Collablang

Post by gokupwned5 » 18 Aug 2018 17:48

shimobaatar wrote:
18 Aug 2018 15:29
Actually, I have a question regarding #57 ("Should phonemic length develop?" - emphasis mine). Even if we end up going with option a (/VCə/ > /VːCə/) or b (/ˈV/ > /ˈVː/), vowel length still wouldn't be phonemic, at least not immediately, would it? Wouldn't it be more like /VCə/ > [VːCə] or /ˈV/ > [ˈVː]?
The schwa could end up being dropped as it did in Middle English. For example, Old English nama /nɑmɑ/ became Middle English name /naːmə/, and then Modern English name /neɪm/. I was thinking of taking that path if option a is picked. If option b is picked, vowel length could become phonemic through the deletion of unstressed vowels.

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Re: British Romance Language Collablang

Post by GrandPiano » 18 Aug 2018 19:06

gokupwned5 wrote:
18 Aug 2018 02:53
54) What should happen to unstressed /u/?
c) /u/ > /ʊ/ and /i/ > /ɪ/ (Proposed by this_is_an_account) - (By the way, the distinction between /i/ and /ɪ/ is now phonemic since /y/ became /i/)
If /u/ and /i/ get reduced in unstressed syllables then I would expect /y/ to also be reduced...
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Re: British Romance Language Collablang

Post by gokupwned5 » 18 Aug 2018 19:22

GrandPiano wrote:
18 Aug 2018 19:06
gokupwned5 wrote:
18 Aug 2018 02:53
54) What should happen to unstressed /u/?
c) /u/ > /ʊ/ and /i/ > /ɪ/ (Proposed by this_is_an_account) - (By the way, the distinction between /i/ and /ɪ/ is now phonemic since /y/ became /i/)
If /u/ and /i/ get reduced in unstressed syllables then I would expect /y/ to also be reduced...
That makes sense. I'll fix it now.

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Re: British Romance Language Collablang

Post by gokupwned5 » 19 Aug 2018 02:54

The results are in!

57) Should phonemic length develop?
c) No.

58) What should happen to /iə/ and /uə/?
d) /iə uə/ > /ɪ ʊ/ (Proposed by this_is_an_account)

59) Should Old Brettaniot develop nasal vowels?
b) No.

60) How should the vowels of Old Brettaniot be written?
b) /i u ɪ ʊ e o ɛ a Vi Vu/ - <i~u ou i ou e o e~æ a Vi Vu>

61) It is 900 CE. The Danelaw has been pushed back to the northern part of former Bouragho, and this is the current political situation. Should Loundein and Dunhounia attempt to make peace with Denmark, and possibly form an alliance with them?
b) No.

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62) What will be the fate of these vowel + semivowel combinations /ij uj ɪj ʊj ej oj ɛj aj/?
a) /ij uj ɪj ʊj ej oj ɛj aj/ > /i i ei oi ei oi ei ai/
b) /ij uj ɪj ʊj ej oj ɛj aj/ > /i ui ei ui ei oi ei ai/
c) /ij uj ɪj ʊj ej oj ɛj aj/ > /i oi ei oi ei oi ei ai/
d) /ij uj ɪj ʊj ej oj ɛj aj/ > /i ui ei oi ei oi ei ai/ (Proposed by shimobaatar)
e) Other.

63) What will be the fate of these vowel + semivowel combinations /iw uw ɪw ʊw ew ow ɛw aw/?
a) /iw uw ɪw ʊw ew ow ɛw aw/ > /iu u iu u eu ou eu au/
b) /iw uw ɪw ʊw ew ow ɛw aw/ > /i u i u eu ou eu au/
c) /iw uw ɪw ʊw ew ow ɛw aw/ > /iu u iu u eu ou eu ɔ/
d) /iw uw ɪw ʊw ew ow ɛw aw/ > /i u i u eu ou eu ɔ/
e) /iw uw ɪw ʊw ew ow ɛw aw/ > /iu u eu ou eu ou eu au/ (Proposed by shimobaatar)
f) Other.

64) What should happen to /ɪ/ and /ʊ/?
a) /ɪ ʊ/ > /ɪ/
b) /ɪ ʊ/ > /ɨ/
c) /ɪ ʊ/ > /ə ɪ/
d) /ɪ ʊ/ > /ə ɨ/
e) /ɪ ʊ/ > /e o/
f) Other.

65) Should Old Brettaniot preserve both the imperfect and preterite/past historic tenses?
a) Yes.
b) No, they should merge into a single past tense.
c) No, the preterite should be dropped, with the imperfect becoming the de facto past tense.
d) No, the imperfect should be dropped, with the preterite becoming the de facto past tense.
e) Other.

66) How should /u/ and /ʊ/ be written word-finally when coming from unstressed vowels?
a) /u ʊ/ - <o ou> (This would be the etymogically accurate option)
b) /u ʊ/ - <u u>
c) /u ʊ/ - <o o>
d) /u ʊ/ - <ou ou>
e) Other.

Voting ends tomorrow 21:00 EDT or 01:00 UTC.
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Re: British Romance Language Collablang

Post by shimobaatar » 19 Aug 2018 02:59

62: d (/ij uj ɪj ʊj ej oj ɛj aj/ > /i ui ei oi ei oi ei ai/
63: e (/iw uw ɪw ʊw ew ow ɛw aw/ > /iu u eu ou eu ou eu au/)
64: e
65: b
66: a

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Re: British Romance Language Collablang

Post by this_is_an_account » 19 Aug 2018 03:11

62: D
63: E
64: E
65: A
66: A

BTW, what sources are you using on Vulgar Latin?

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Re: British Romance Language Collablang

Post by qwed117 » 19 Aug 2018 03:20

62)A
63)D
64)D
65)B
66)A
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Re: British Romance Language Collablang

Post by gokupwned5 » 19 Aug 2018 03:32

this_is_an_account wrote:
19 Aug 2018 03:11
62: D
63: E
64: E
65: A
66: A

BTW, what sources are you using on Vulgar Latin?
I mainly use Wikipedia for sound changes and phonology, and Wiktionary for where I should derive words from.

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Re: British Romance Language Collablang

Post by Cavaliers327 » 19 Aug 2018 14:31

62. d
63. e
64. d
65. b
66. a

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Re: British Romance Language Collablang

Post by gokupwned5 » 19 Aug 2018 14:56

62.D
63.E
64.E
65.B
66.A

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Re: British Romance Language Collablang

Post by gokupwned5 » 20 Aug 2018 02:44

The results are in! Also, results will be shown weekly, rather than daily, until further notice.

62) What will be the fate of these vowel + semivowel combinations /ij uj ɪj ʊj ej oj ɛj aj/?
d) /ij uj ɪj ʊj ej oj ɛj aj/ > /i ui ei oi ei oi ei ai/ (Proposed by shimobaatar)

63) What will be the fate of these vowel + semivowel combinations /iw uw ɪw ʊw ew ow ɛw aw/?
e) /iw uw ɪw ʊw ew ow ɛw aw/ > /iu u eu ou eu ou eu au/ (Proposed by shimobaatar)

64) What should happen to /ɪ/ and /ʊ/?
d) /ɪ ʊ/ > /e o/

65) Should Old Brettaniot preserve both the imperfect and preterite/past historic tenses?
b) No, they should merge into a single past tense.

66) How should /u/ and /ʊ/ be written word-finally when coming from unstressed vowels?
a) /u ʊ/ - <o ou> (This would be the etymogically accurate option)

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67) How should the high vowels /i u ou/ be written?
a) /i u ou/ - <i u ou> (Phonetically Accurate)
b) /i u ou/ - <i~y u ou> (Similar to Old English, with <y> representing former /y/)
c) /i u ou/ - <i~u ou ou> (With <u> representing former /y/)
d) Other.

68) Should the phoneme /h/ be introduced through Germanic loanwords?
a) Yes.
b) No.
c) Other.

69) What should be the fate of disyllabic /i.ə/ and /u.ə/?
a) They should become /i/ and /u/ respectively. (Similar to English in words such as Marie)
b) They should be preserved.
c) They should become /e/ and /o/ respectively.

70) It is 939 CE, and the Danes have finally been driven out of Britain, with Loundein having regained its former territory. Unfortunately, Johan IV, the most recent king of Loundein, has died without an heir. Who should become the new king of Loundein?
a) Carlo, the 15-year-old half-brother of Johan IV.
b) Louis IV, the current 18-year-old King of West Francia. His mother, Marie, was the sister of Johan IV.
c) Arnulf I, the current 49-year-old Count of Flanders. His mother, Ermentrude, was the daughter of Johan II (The successor to Rhodri, and the grandfather of Johan IV).
d) Other.

Voting ends on Saturday, August 25, 2018 at 21:30 EDT or Sunday, August 26, 2018 at 01:30 UTC.
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Re: British Romance Language Collablang

Post by shimobaatar » 20 Aug 2018 02:52

67: b
68: a
69: b
70: a

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Re: British Romance Language Collablang

Post by this_is_an_account » 20 Aug 2018 03:00

67: C
68: A
69: B
70: A

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Re: British Romance Language Collablang

Post by Jackk » 20 Aug 2018 13:48

67. C
68. A
69. B
70. A
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Re: British Romance Language Collablang

Post by Cavaliers327 » 20 Aug 2018 15:56

67. B
68. A
69. B
70. A

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Re: British Romance Language Collablang

Post by gokupwned5 » 20 Aug 2018 20:10

67.B
68.A
69.B
70.A

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Re: British Romance Language Collablang

Post by samsam » 21 Aug 2018 11:02

67.B
68.B
69.A
70.B
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Re: British Romance Language Collablang

Post by Birdlang » 24 Aug 2018 13:50

67) A
68) A
69) C
70) A
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