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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by eldin raigmore » 23 Jan 2019 23:49

@bbbourq,
I also very much admire Lortho’s script.

But I’m also waiting to hear/read your follow-up on your double-star double-habitable-planet two-habitable-satellites-of-a-gas-giant setup you were working on on the CWBB.
BTW have you been told about the upcoming merger of CWBB into gtx0 ?

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As for what I’ve accomplished:

I’ve decided on a conculture/conworld for my Arpien conlang.
It will be spoken by the “Plains People” (aka humans) of my multiracial fantasy world.
(I haven’t decided on languages for the Mine People (dwarves), or the Woods People (elves), or the Lake&River People (mer-centaurs).)

I’ve come up with native names — or rather, their literal translations — for the types of clans in Adpihi/Reptigan.
Matriclans will be “milk-houses”.
Patriclans will be “blood-paths”.
Ropes will be “robes”.

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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Ælfwine » 24 Jan 2019 01:49

I've been inspired to create a descendant of the Gothic language spoken in Crimea. I was somewhat influenced by Spanick's Gotski.

Right now I am screwing around with the definite article <ѳа>. It declines similarly in the nominative and accusative case. The attested Crimean Gothic form was "the" or "tho," I took this as a gender distinction instead of allomorphy.

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		Singular	Plural
Masculine:	ѳа [θa]		ѳе [θe]
Feminine:	ѳο [θo]		ѳοс [θos]
Neuter:		ѳат [θat]	ѳο [θo]
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by DesEsseintes » 24 Jan 2019 12:02

In accordance with my policy of never really making permanent decisions for any of my conlanging projects, here is my latest idea for the vowel inventory of TLFKAT:

/a e i ɨ/

Now, TLFKAT has lots and lots of labialised consonant phonemes, and the four vowels are realised [wa we wi u] following such segments.

Somehow I prefer this simple system to all the convoluted monstrosities I came up with in earlier versions.

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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by gestaltist » 24 Jan 2019 14:50

DesEsseintes wrote:
24 Jan 2019 12:02
Somehow I prefer this simple system to all the convoluted monstrosities I came up with in earlier versions.
Not surprising. You seem to prefer 4 vowel systems anyway.

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Post by eldin raigmore » 24 Jan 2019 15:29

DesEsseintes wrote:
24 Jan 2019 12:02
... TLFKAT ...
I know TLFKAT is an acronym for “The Language Formerly Known As T-something”, but by now repeated usage has made it the language’s new name.
How do you pronounce it?

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Post by DesEsseintes » 24 Jan 2019 15:34

eldin raigmore wrote:
24 Jan 2019 15:29
DesEsseintes wrote:
24 Jan 2019 12:02
... TLFKAT ...
I know TLFKAT is an acronym for “The Language Formerly Known As T-something”
Tlííeno
but by now repeated usage has made it the language’s new name.
How do you pronounce it?
[tl̩fkat]
“Tifflecat”
“Toffeecat”

Take your pick! [:D]

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Post by eldin raigmore » 24 Jan 2019 15:46

I use the L as a syllabic nuclear consonant. So I say “tlf” as a syllable with a consonantal nucleus.
It’s weird in two ways, the way I say it.
First, this all-consonant syllable has both an onset and a coda; that’s not usual. Consonantal syllables tend to have neither or either, but not both. (That’s a tendency, not an absolute.)
Second, I pronounce the two-syllable name trochaically; stress on the first syllable. Consonantal syllables tend to be unstressed.
You said to take my pick; that’s been my unofficial pick for some time now!

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Post by WeepingElf » 27 Jan 2019 16:53

I have begun to rework Proto-Hesperic from a sister to a daughter of PIE; the first step has been to add the sound changes to the grammar sketch.
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by bbbourq » 27 Jan 2019 20:49

eldin raigmore wrote:
23 Jan 2019 23:49
@bbbourq,
I also very much admire Lortho’s script.

But I’m also waiting to hear/read your follow-up on your double-star double-habitable-planet two-habitable-satellites-of-a-gas-giant setup you were working on on the CWBB.
I haven't focused on that in a while since I started developing my second conlang, Dhakhsh [ðæxʃ], an analytic, SOV language that is written with a RTL, vertical script. You can see my progress here. I have a few ideas about the conworld rattling around in my head; only I have yet to write them down on paper. I will definitely update the information as soon as I get it!
eldin raigmore wrote:
23 Jan 2019 23:49
BTW have you been told about the upcoming merger of CWBB into gtx0 ?
No, I had no idea. What is gtx0?

And I'm interested to know what you mean by "robes." I get milk-houses and bood-paths, but that last one has me stumped.
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by elemtilas » 28 Jan 2019 02:32

bbbourq wrote:
27 Jan 2019 20:49
eldin raigmore wrote:
23 Jan 2019 23:49
BTW have you been told about the upcoming merger of CWBB into gtx0 ?
No, I had no idea. What is gtx0?
GTX0 has primarily been a gaming & game world discussion forum. Relatively low volume. Xhin owns it and offered to merge the two for various reasons. http://gtx0.com

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Post by WeepingElf » 28 Jan 2019 18:31

Work on the "new" Proto-Hesperic continues. Today: noun inflection.
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by eldin raigmore » 28 Jan 2019 23:32

bbbourq wrote:
27 Jan 2019 20:49
.... I started developing my second conlang, Dhakhsh [ðæxʃ], an analytic, SOV language that is written with a RTL, vertical script. You can see my progress here. ....
Every time I try, Twitter tells me “Something went wrong. Try again.”

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Post by bbbourq » 29 Jan 2019 00:51

eldin raigmore wrote:
28 Jan 2019 23:32
Every time I try, Twitter tells me “Something went wrong. Try again.”
Interesting. Try this: Go to my Twitter profile and look through my tweets. You will see both Lortho and Dhakhsh entries. That should solve the issue.
https://lortho.conlang.org

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Post by eldin raigmore » 29 Jan 2019 07:07

bbbourq wrote:
29 Jan 2019 00:51
eldin raigmore wrote:
28 Jan 2019 23:32
Every time I try, Twitter tells me “Something went wrong. Try again.”
Interesting. Try this: Go to my Twitter profile and look through my tweets. You will see both Lortho and Dhakhsh entries. That should solve the issue.
Yes! Impressive!
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Post by Khemehekis » 29 Jan 2019 07:25

Today I added the following entries to the Landau Core Vocabulary under Verbs of Physical Aggression:

to blind (temporarily)
to blind (permanently)

Adding those made me think of the Oasis song "Wonderwall", which brought to mind the line "The fire in your heart is out". I then added these:

to put out, to extinguish (a cigarette)
to put out, to extinguish (a match)
to put out, to extinguish (a fire)

I've had "to light, to ignite" for these three situations in the LCV for several years now. I'm amazed it took so long before I added the opposite of the concept.

I also added a word to the Foods section in Part V:

muffin

Such an everyday food, and yet it's been missing for so long.
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Post by Ælfwine » 29 Jan 2019 08:19

Developed a tentative orthography for my Crim. Gothic:

Aa – Aа
Bb – Бб
Dd – Дд
Ee – Ээ
Ff – Фф
Gg – Гг
Hh – Һһ (loanwords only)
Ii – Ии
Kk – Кк
Ll – Лл
Mm – Мм
Nn – Нн
Oo – Оо
Pp – Пп
Rr – Рр
Ss – Сс
Tt – Тт
Uu/Ww – Уу
Vv – Вв
Zz – Зз
Þþ – Ѳѳ

Long vowels and consonants are doubled (so "brenna" is <брэнна>).

Misc:
ch – Хх
sch – Шш
ja – я
jo – ё
ju – ю

ѳа уорд "the word"
скютэн or шютэн "to shoot"

Subject to change, of course. I may need a consistent way to represent schwa.
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Post by Khemehekis » 29 Jan 2019 08:31

Oh cool, I've never seen a Germanic language written with the Cyrillic alphabet before!
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Post by Keenir » 02 Feb 2019 12:19

Thought up a little parable/exercise to work on during my upcoming vacation,,,
Spoiler:
Ahagat is a culture hero representing urban life.
'Boaati is a culture hero representing nomadism.

the Parable of Superiority:
On the calendar, there are days of the Pig and days of the Boar. For, it is known and it is held, that when a pig goes feral, it becomes a boar.

On the calendar, there are days of the Horse and days of the Camel. For, it is held, that when a horse goes feral, it becomes a camel.

(there are other day-groups; another time)

Ahagat asserted that the horse is superior to the camel. He used only spoken words to do so.

'Boaati stated that Ahagat was misinformed. 'Boaati held up The Transformations, about the changes from feral to unferal and unferal to feral.

Ahagat smiled and pointed to 'Boaati's essay. "What is this?" He asked this of the essay written in Ahagat's script.

Now 'Boaati smile and held out his copy of On Learning. "What is this?" he asked of the book which tells of angelic instruction to humans, a book written in Ahagat's script.
That is the End of the Parable Of Superiority.

conlang notes:
* "it is known" and "it is held" are evidentials which tag along after the If-Then Causality modifier.
* "days of the ___" are noun phrases which have a single cartouche-word in the script.
* "to do so" is a single word(?)
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Post by Khemehekis » 06 Feb 2019 05:26

BEFORE:

The connective "id" is used to mean that an action is "done to" something. It is used after a gerund to connect it to its object:

Adhashar id goshaniya en hethet stoern.
clean done_to toilet PST task difficult
Cleaning the toilet was a difficult task.

Ovai id zikheth id ventas dyu meyez hazias ad tzareimin is.
watch done_to shoot done_to animal-PL by person-PL make-PRS to angry 1s
Watching people shoot animals makes me angry.

NEW:

Passive object-phrases like the latter example must have a verb. Instead of "seeing him happy", say "seeing him be happy":

Em id e gweimo dyu ar soerzas is.
see done_to BE sad by 2s pain-PRS 1s
Seeing you sad pains me.

(Note that a second "id" is not required after the verb "e".)
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Ælfwine » 11 Feb 2019 04:22

Khemehekis wrote:
29 Jan 2019 08:31
Oh cool, I've never seen a Germanic language written with the Cyrillic alphabet before!
Yes. I figured the historical background of the language called for it. Furthermore, upon accessing Stearn's work, who proposed a phonology for Crimean Gothic, I've taken it and see if I could introduce a Cyrillic spelling into it.

The vowels:

/i iː u uː/ <и ии у уу>
/e eː ə o oː/ <э ээ ? о оо>
/a (aː)/ <а аа>

The corpus does not have /aː/ as a phoneme, but nonetheless I've included it as I believe loanwords such as vāzer [ˈvaː.zər], "market" from Middle Persian could reintroduce it. I am somewhat unsure how to cyrillicize schwa. Schwa only occurs in unstressed syllables, usually as the second syllable of a two syllable word.

The consonants:

/m n/ <м н>
/p b t d k (g)/ <п б т д к ґ>
/f v θ s (z) ʃ x ɣ/ <ф в ѳ с з ш х г>
/r l j/ <р л ?>

Per Stearns, CG did not have the phonemes /g/ or /z/. Much like Ukrainian, /g/ would be reintroduced into the language from Western European loanwords. I believe /z/ too, would be introduced through loanwords like zebre [ˈze.brə], though its possible it may not have the functional load required.

The status of /j/ is uncertain, Stearns says the language likely had it as a phoneme, but it doesn't appear anywhere in the corpus (with his alterations.)
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